Lydney Inns on the 1911 census (General)
by downunder , Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 12:25 (4022 days ago)
Hi all
Someone has unexpectedly thrown up the possibility that there could be a family connection to one of the Lydney publicans on the 1911 census - due to his children having been born in South Africa, possibly the Kimberley. Don't know which pub though (I think there were 18 in Lydney in 1911?) or the surname.
I've worked my way through as many inns as I can find records for, but can't find any obvious African connections yet and no children born anywhere outside the UK.
Wonder if anyone could help or know if I'm chasing a red herring?
Many thanks as always
Feathers Hotel Lydney
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 12:32 (4022 days ago) @ downunder
Hi all
Someone has unexpectedly thrown up the possibility that there could be a family connection to one of the Lydney publicans on the 1911 census - due to his children having been born in South Africa, possibly the Kimberley. Don't know which pub though (I think there were 18 in Lydney in 1911?) or the surname.
I've worked my way through as many inns as I can find records for, but can't find any obvious African connections yet and no children born anywhere outside the UK.
Wonder if anyone could help or know if I'm chasing a red herring?
Many thanks as always
transcribed as O GREEN from Kimberley at the Feathers Lydney, I think its O'BRIEN or O'BRIAN
1911 Feathers Hotel 16 High St Lydney
James Joseph O Green 39 Limerick Ireland
Ellie O Green 35 Clare Ireland
Eileen May O Green 9 Kimberley SA
Ernest Patrick J O Green 6 Kimberley SA
William James O Green Under 1 month Cardiff S Wales
The Feathers Hotel was once an important coaching inn on the Gloucester to South Wales main road. The Feathers Hotel played a leading role in Lydney’s history. It was once the venue for inquests and trials and the headquarters for a host of local organisations. The Feathers Hotel even boasted its own bowling green.
On Friday 22nd February 1902 the members of the Lydney and District Licensed Victualler’s Association met at the Feathers Hotel to partake of dinner and spend a social evening. ‘A few friends were invited, and between 30 and 40 sat down to an excellent spread provided by Host and Hostess Smith.’
The Feathers Hotel was owned by the P.R.H.A. in the 1940’s. This was the People’s Refreshment House Association Ltd., which provided food and accommodation to travellers. It encouraged non-alcoholic drinks but did serve beer during licensing hours. They owned 160 Licensed Houses after the Second World War, and the Feathers Hotel was described as having ’19 bedrooms and a dining room capable of seating a hundred.’ The Association’s freehold and leasehold properties were acquired by Charrington & Co. Ltd. from the beginning of 1962.
On Friday August 31st 1962 four young gentlemen named Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison and Ringo Starr stayed overnight at the Feathers after playing at Lydney Town Hall. Drummer Pete Best had been sacked from the Beatles just two weeks earlier on the 16th August, so Ringo was still very much the ‘new boy’ in the band. Perhaps after singing Twist and Shout John Lennon drank a couple of pints of Bass’ beer to soothe his throat!
The Feathers Hotel closed in February 1998 after a period of decline. After closure the building was set fire to on a number of occasions. The arson attack on the afternoon of Good Friday 1998 was described as being particularly fierce. Firefighters used ‘backdraft’ training to control the blaze.
The Feathers was demolished in June 1999. Tesco is probably built on the site
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Feathers Hotel Lydney
by downunder , Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 12:54 (4022 days ago) @ slowhands
That is AWESOME! Thank you.
For some further information oLydney Inns on the 1911 census
by ForestPrints , Yorkley, Forest of Dean, UK, Friday, November 22, 2013, 15:10 (4013 days ago) @ downunder
For some further information on the Feathers Hotel landlords visit Geoff Sandles' excellent website at: http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPubs_view.php
For some further information oLydney Inns on the 1911 census
by downunder , Friday, November 22, 2013, 23:45 (4013 days ago) @ ForestPrints
Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
Feathers Inn/Hotel at Lydney
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Sunday, November 24, 2013, 01:05 (4012 days ago) @ downunder
Hi D-U,
apologies for late reply to your query, I've been "Test"ed by a few sleepless nights lately as I'm sure you know #.
As said above Geoff Sandles' website is always a good start for FoD Pub enquiries; most unusually in this instance can give this direct link to the Feathers' page which includes some old photos to add to Slowhands' notes.
http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/AllGlosPubsDatabase/RAIGConnection.php?pubid1=1404
This good private website includes some more photos of Lydney and area in general, worth browsing.
http://coghlan.co.uk/Village%20files/lydneycards.html
This great aerial view shows what a big building the Feathers had become by the late 1950s.
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Lydney-Glos/the_feathers_1959.html
It was equally impressive and presumably a lot of hard work for your 1911 ancestors, as shown by these particulars when offered for auction on Tuesday the 23rd June 1914:
"Fully Licensed and Occupying the Most Important Position in the Town with Extensive Accomodation, Stabling etc.
The High Street hotel consists of a large bar, bar parlour, private sitting room, reading room, billiard room, private dining room, commercial room, coffee room, market room, kit-chen, larder, scullery and wine cellar on the ground floor with a drawing room, ten bedrooms, store room, linen room and closet above. On the second floor is a spacious club room, a masonic room and five more bedrooms. The basement consisted of beer and wine cellars and at the rear was an assembly hall, stabling for twelve horses, harness room, a storeroom formerly used as a brewhouse, four piggeries and a barn."
The above details, and a great many more albeit no mention of your ancestors, are from the excellent "Pubs of the Royal Forest of Dean" by Heather Hurley published 2004. The book states Lydney's "principal inn" was previously owned by the Bathurst family, as was much of the town and area since the early C18th. It was known as the Hand of Feathers in 1681, the Plume of Feathers in the late C18th, the Lydney Inn in 1839, then the Feathers until demolished in 1999. An indication of it's importance to Lydney is highlighted within this highly-detailed Kelly's Directory entry of 1861, see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Lydney/Kelly1861.html
Heather's book includes this photo of mounted Police stationed at The Feathers during the 1926 General Strike, are they pictured in front of the Feathers ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46880000/jpg/_46880039_mountedpolice,minersstrike,fo...
Here's some more http://www.gloucestershirepolicemuseum.co.uk/page_2360487.html
175 extra police were drafted into the Forest during the strike, to ensure order after 3/4 of the miners walked out. According to Hylton O.A. Myles of Bream, for example,
"In this village two private owners carried on mining one called "Friars Level" and the other by the late Mr Thomas Peglar at Clements End Green, although only a handful of men worked at these collieries and did not take part in the stoppage. To enable these men to go to work the Mounted Police were brought from Cheltenham to escort them daily to and from their place of work. A few words were shouted with the usual "Forest Humour" but never the intimidation that we witnessed on Television during the 1984 Miners strike."
# oops another poor "shot" from one of our "batsmen", ah well we always let you win the Gabba test, our time will(may?) come.. Not forgetting Cap'n Cook is Gloster-born and you've seen what he can do Down Under.
Feathers Inn/Hotel at Lydney
by downunder , Sunday, November 24, 2013, 11:25 (4011 days ago) @ Jefff
Ha ha! Re the "being Tested"
And thank you once again for fabulous info above and beyond the call of duty. I'm off to go delving with great pleasure.
xx