Hi there
I would like to find out more about My Great Grandfather Joseph John Rogers. He was born in 1888, possibly in Yorkley. I know his mothers name was Mary but am unsure of his fathers name but it may have been Joseph John Williams. Joseph immigrated to New Zealand in 1912 and then served in WW1, I found the information regarding his mother and father in his service records.
I found the below information which states it is from the 1891 census.
1824 ROGERS John 67 Lydney Lane, Yorkley Gen Labourer
1830 ROGERS Sarah Lydney Lane, Yorkley
1863 ROGERS James 28 Stoker stationery Engine
1867 ROGERS Mary 24 Lydney Lane, Yorkley
1889 ROGERS Joseph 2
St James Church, Bream, Parish magazine indicates a Sarah Rogers died in 1894.
Any information would be much appreciated, especially any as to where Mary or Sarah is buried. One thing I do know about Mary is that she was still alive in 1916 and living in Oldcroft.
Thank you
Chris
New Zealand
ROGERS/JONES/BEDDIS/BATH + SAUN
by MPGriffiths , Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 11:45 (3750 days ago) @ RogersC
There does appear to be a Public Members BEDDIS tree on Ancestry: re BEDDIS/ROGERS
Fod Records:
Baptism at Bream - 18 December 1892
Parents: Surname : R0GERS
Chid Forename: Joseph
father's forename - not stated
mother's forename - Mary
residence: Yorkley Wood
occupation: Single
Officiating Minster, J BOND
Event : Baptism
Sponsors, John ROGERS, Sarah ROGERS, Henry COX
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1891 Census, Yorkley
John ROGERS is aged 57 - born Wroughton, Wiltshire
Sarah - 61 - born Woolaston Glos
James - 28 ** (think he married Ellen LUKE at the Fod Register Office 1891 - and James, residence, Oldcroft - is buried at Viney Hill age 36 - 21 May 1899)
Mary - 24 ***
Joseph - Grandson 2
(looked at the Gloucestershirebdm for ROGERS/LUKE births
Dora Gertrude - 1892, Flora Annie 1893, Sarah Ellen 1895, Mary May and Martha Amelia 1897)
1901 census Yorkley
Ellen ROGERS is aged 42 and a Widow born Cornwell
with Dora 9, Florrie 7, Melia 5, Martha 3 and Ethel 1 ***
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Fod Records, baptism at Bream - 22 October 1899 (born 13 June 1899)
Ethel James ROGERS - father: James - Engine Driver, deceased and Ellen, residence: Yorkley Wood
and it would seem Ellen ROGERS married William CHARLES around 1909
1911 Census, Yorkley Wood
William CHARLES - 49 - labourer, born Yorkley
Ellen - 52 - born Cornwall (married two year)
Martha ROGERS, daughter - 13 - born Beryhill
Ethel ROGERS - 11
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Fod Records
Marriage at Parkend - 18 September 1909
William Henry CHARLES age 47, Bachelor, labourer, Yorkley Wood
father: Edward CHARLES deceased
married
Ellen ROGERS - age 50 - Widow - residence: Yorkley Wd
father: Thomas LUKE, farmer
by banns
witnesses: David and Annie ADAMS
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by using the website
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd
James and Mary ROGERS (mother's maiden name JONES)
birth: Joseph ROGERS, 1888, Forest of Dean, Coleford (no father's surname given)
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1881 Census, Newland - one house before Yorkley Court
ROGERS
John - 44 - Labourer at Colliery, born Wiltshire N/K
Sarah - 48 - born Glos. Woolaston
James - 17 - Fireman at Colliery
Mary - 14
Martha - 12
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1871 Census, West Dean, Yorkley
ROGERS
John - 37 - born Wiltshire, Wroughton
Sarah - 41 - born Glos. Woolaston
Sarah A - 10 - born Alvington
James - 8 - born Yorkley
Maria - 4
Martha - 2
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1861 Census, Alvington
John ROGERS, 27 - born N/K
Sarah ROGERS - 32 - born Glos. Woolaston
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1851 Census, Wiltshire, Broad Hinton
ROGERS
John - 50 Widower - Gamekeeper born Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
Martha - 21 - born Wroughton
Thomas - 19
Sarah - 13
Joseph - 11
Elizabeth - grand-daughter 1
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John ROGERS is in Newland on the 1851 Census
William ROGERS - Widower - 46, Bailiff inthe owner of farm - born, Wiltshire, Broad Hinton
John HEATH - Servant 22 - ditto
William HUNT - Servant - 30 - born ditto
John ROGERS - 17 - Servant, born ditto
William ROGERS - 13 - born ditto
Martha - daughter - 14 - housekeeper, born ditto
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1841 Census, Wiltshire, Wroughton
ROGERS
John - 40
Sarah - 40
Thomas 9, John 7, William 5, Joseph 11 months, Jane 16, Martha - 11 and Sarah 3
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Gloucestershirebdm
John ROGERS married Sarah JONES Cheltenham St Mary 1860
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There is on the Gloucestershirebmd website
marriage of a Mary ROGERS to Levi BEDDIS - Forest of Dean, Monmouth Register Office 1900
and here confirmed by the 1911 census
Levi BEDDIS, Oldcroft Nr Lydney, Gloucestershire - living in 3 rooms
BEDDIS - with Joseph ROGERS boarder, 22 -
Levi - 47 - married 10 (the 0 is made to look like, either 16 or 18 years, 4 children born alive, 3 living one dead - born Oldcroft
(Cager on in Coal Mine below Ground)
Mary - 44 born Yorkley Glos
Mary - 8 - born Yorkley Glos ** fod records - married at Viney Hill - 26 May 1923 - to Worthington Clyde BATH)
William - 6 - born Yorkley nr Lydney ** - married Laurice Mary HUZZEY
Frank - 4 - born Oldcroft ** fod records - married at Viney Hill - 14 August 1929 - to Emmeline Elizabeth SAUNDERS
JOSEPH ROGERS, Boarder, 22 - single Coal Miner, born Yorkley, Nr Lydney
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Using Gloucestershirebmd for children named BEDDIS, mother's maiden name: ROGERS
Sarah - 1901 (this must be the child who died)
Mary Jane - 1903
William John - 1904
Frank - 1906
James Oliver - 1912 (after the 1911 census) (according to Public Members' tree on Ancestry - died age 77 - 1989 Evesham)
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1901 Census, Newland
Sharp/Shop House Farm
next door
BEDDIS
Levi - 37 - Collier Hewer, born West Dean
Mary - 34 - born Newland
JOSEPH ROGGERS - Visitor - 13 - born Newland
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Here are Joseph's half siblings marriages
both married at Viney Hill
26 May 1923
Mary Jane BEDDIS, residence: Oldcroft, Nr Lydney
father: Levi BEDDIS, Collier
married
Worthington Clyde BATH, bachelor, Collier (see William John BEDDIS' marriage)
residence: Allaston Mesne near Lydney
father:
Thomas Charles BATH, Tin Worker
witnesses: Ronald William ROBERTS/Mabel Fanny BACH (assume BATH) - Nee CAMM - Marriage 27 Dec 1897 Lydney
(Fod Records - Worthington Clyde BATH christened at Lydney - 4 May 1902,
parents: Thomas Charles (tin worker) & Mabel Fanny
1901 Wales Census, Lydney
5 Tutnalls St
BATH
Thomas C - 28 - Counter of Plates at Tinworks, all born Lydney
Mabel - 28
John - 2
Laura BATH, visitor - 26 - Housemaide
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and 14 August 1929
Frank BEDDIS age 23, bachelor, residence: Oldcroft
father: Levi BEDDIS
married
Emmeline Elizabeth SAUNDERS, age 20, Spinster - residence: Viney Hill
father: George SAUNDERS, Collier
witnesses: Archibald TURLEY and Samuel SAUNDERS
and at Lydney - 27 June 1925
William John BEDDIS - age 20, Bachelor, Viney Hill
father: Levfi BEDDIS - Collier
married Laurice May HUZZEY, age 21, Spinster
father: Ernest George HUZZEY - Tinplate Workers
witnesses: Worthington Clyde BATH and Emily Mary BAGHURST
LEVI BEDDIS (husband of Mary ROGERS)
by MPGriffiths , Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 12:13 (3750 days ago) @ RogersC
As mentioned: there is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry with BEDDIS/ROGERS
1881 Census, West Dean
BEDDIS
William - 67 - Coal Miner, born Lydney
Harriett - 63 - born West Dean
William BEDDIS - 42 - son Widower
Alice BEDDIS - 35 - unmarried
Levi BEDDIS - Grandson - 17 (parents William JONES 1839-1898 and Sarah ADAMS - 1844-1868) **
Mabel BEDDIS - grand-daugther - 14 (Mabel Matilda 1866)
John BEDDIS - Grandson - 12
*** Fod records, burial 27 December 1868 - age 25 - residence: Oldcroft
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1871 Census, West Dean
BEDDIS
William - 57
Harriett - 53
William - 32 - son Widower
Alice - 25 - daughter
Charles - 19 - son
George - 17 - son
Emily - 10 daughter
Levi - 7 - gson
Mabel - 5 - gdau
John - 2 - gson
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Fod Records
Marriage at Newnham - 5 October 1862
William BEDDIS aged 24, Bachelor, Collier - residence: Newnham
father: William BEDDIS, Collier
married
Sarah ADAMS, age 18, Spinster - residence: Newnham
father: George ADAMS, Collier
witnesses: John BEDDIS and Decima WARD
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?
Fod Records
Burial at Viney Hill - 12 December 1942
Levi BEDDIS age 79
address: 6 Grove Lane, Lydney
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?
Ancestry Death record
J/F/M Qtr 1948
Mary BEDDIS
dob - abt 1868
age 80
Forest of Dean
Gloucestershire
(Fod records, residence: Furnance Vall, Blakeney)
LEVI BEDDIS (husband of Mary ROGERS)
by RogersC , Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 10:53 (3749 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
I also found this Mary Beddis, her age seems to correspond with the dob of 1867
Record_ID: 301926
Entry_Number: 398
Year: 1933
Month: Sep
Day: 23
Surname: BEDDIS
Forenames: Mary
Residence: Allastone Mesne
Age_at_death: 66
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: B320
and this record for Levi Beddis
Record_ID: 285067
Entry_Number:
Year: 1942
Month: Dec
Day: 12
Surname: BEDDIS
Forenames: Levi
Residence: 6 Grove Lane Lydney
Age_at_death: 79
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: B320
LEVI BEDDIS (husband of Mary ROGERS)
by MPGriffiths , Thursday, August 14, 2014, 14:06 (3748 days ago) @ RogersC
Re the Burial at Mary BEDDIS - 23 September 1933 - Allastone Mesne
most probably her, as Worthington Clyde BATH gave this as his residence when he married Mary's daughter Mary BEDDIS
and 1911 Census (1901 census in previous reply)
Allastone Mesne, Lydney
BATH
Charles - 38 - married 13 years - 3 children born alive, 3 living, Tin Plate Worker, Tinplate Works, all born Lydney
Mabel - 38
John - 12
Worthy - son 8
Mabel - 6
Sarah Rogers
by ChrisW , Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 13:28 (3750 days ago) @ RogersC
The 1894 burial does fit Sarah's age from the census:
Record_ID: 52983
Entry_Number: 1516
Year: 1894
Month: Feb
Day: 1
Surname: ROGERS
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Yorkley
Age_at_death: 64
Officiating_Minister: HE Dandy
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/17
Page_No: 190
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: R262
ROGERS of Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
by MPGriffiths , Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 15:51 (3750 days ago) @ RogersC
If you belong to Ancestry
quite a few trees have your
ROGERS family tree - back to William ROGERS year 1585 in Broad Hinton, Wiltshire.
Duncan and Mandy's Wiltshire website covers many churches etc in Wiltshire, including Broad Hinton (just under 4 miles from Wroughton)
Being from Wiltshire myself: any-one born in this County is known as a 'Wiltshire Moonraker'
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonrakers
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Wiltshire Wills link
Rogers
by RogersC , Thursday, August 14, 2014, 09:57 (3748 days ago) @ RogersC
Thank you so much for your help. While I don't have ancestry access, the information posted here will keep more entertained for a long time.
Rogers
by Gill , Saturday, August 16, 2014, 13:16 (3746 days ago) @ RogersC
if you need to Ancestry can be found in many libraries in NZ plus we can get Find my Past at the National Library Wellington. Good hunting.
Gill