hi, i am researching the whittingham family that lived in walford and some in whitchurch, herefordshire in particular george b 1814 ( approx ) who lived in whitchurch and a richard bapt 1796 from walford, trying to find a connection if anyone can help.

Can see a number of trees on Public Members Tree on Ancestry -

However, you should firstly look at the Fod Records

Baptism at Walford

1 May 1814

George WHITTINGHAM

parents: John (labourer) and Isabella

residence: Rock in Walford

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sibling

Milicent - 12 February 1816

residence: Howl Hill

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and siblings
Church of Latter Day Saints: - George - 7 May 1814, Walford by Ross

also on Ancestry and CLDS

1871 Census - Walford

WHITTINGHAM

Isabella - 77 born Ross
Fredrick - 49 - born Walford
Ellen - 49
Ann - 19
Henry - 17

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Fod Records

Marriage at Whitchurch - 4 August 1814

John WETINGHAM
of this Parish

married

Isabella JONES
of this Parish

witnesses

Jas and Ann MORGAN + George HENNAND

to> Can see a number of trees on Public Members Tree on Ancestry -

However, you should firstly look at the Fod Records

Baptism at Walford

1 May 1814

George WHITTINGHAM

parents: John (labourer) and Isabella

residence: Rock in Walford

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sibling

Milicent - 12 February 1816

residence: Howl Hill

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and siblings
Church of Latter Day Saints: - George - 7 May 1814, Walford by Ross

also on Ancestry and CLDS

1871 Census - Walford

WHITTINGHAM

Isabella - 77 born Ross
Fredrick - 49 - born Walford
Ellen - 49
Ann - 19
Henry - 17

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Fod Records

Marriage at Whitchurch - 4 August 1814

John WETINGHAM
of this Parish

married

Isabella JONES
of this Parish

witnesses

Jas and Ann MORAN + George HENNAND

thanks for your message, ellen is actually e relative of mine she married a manfred james from goodrich, i am trying to find a connection to georges family to richards family bap 1796 walford it may go back to the 1750's possibly ( even ruardean)

Gloucestershire Wills on Ancestry may hold clues

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Assume John WHITTINGHAM had died pre 1821

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Burial at Walford - 20 February 1821

John WHITTINGHAM

residence: above the rock

age at death : 12 months

Memoranda: Natural son of Isabella WHITTINGHAM and William BAKER

Notes: May also be known as BAKER

John Whittingham & Isabella

Sorry to be the bearer of possibly bad news - this John Whittingham could be the one who was executed at Gloucester Gaol for murder.

from notes
John Whittingham was possibly the John Whittingham, labourer living at Howle Hill, married to Isabella. Their children: George bp 7 May 1814; Milicent bp 12 Feb 1816; and James bp 16 Oct 1817 [to Isabella, widow of John, Howl Hill]. Isabella then had 2 children by William Baker, a labourer and mason of Bulls Hill; John bp 4 Mar 1820; Frederick bp 31 Dec 1821. In 1841 and 1851, Isabella Whittingham is on both census returns as a widow living with her son Frederick.
'The Murder of Parish Constable Henry Thompson of Ruardean'
4 men were convicted of murdering him including John Whittingham. John Whittingham from Howle in the Forest of Dean was arrested on Wednesday 18 May 1817 in a barn near Ross on Wye and was hanged in Gloucester prison.

Thanks for the msg, if it is the john whittingham, would you possibly know both john and issabellas parents ?????

On the 1871 Census, Isabella is aged 77 c 1794 and born Ross

If you look at the FoD Records

Baptism at Ross on Wye - 28 July 1793

Isabella JONES - parents Thomas & Jane

It is difficult to establish which John Whittingham this relates to as there are several. The references to the murder do not give an age for him.
However, if one assumes that he was of a similar age to his wife Isabella and not some 20+ years older, then he could be the John bp at Walford in 1791 to John and Margaret Whittingham, making him a grandson of Walter Whittingham & Ann [Harris] from whom I am descended.
There is no burial record for John Whittingham, as at this time, it was the custom for murderers following hanging at Gloucester Gaol - his body would have been sent for dissection and not returned to his parish nor buried within Gloucester thus denying a family burial. This was particularly harsh considering that his wife Isabella was expecting his last child, James. The PR bp Index simply states that James was the son of Isabella Whittingham, her husband deceased.
The circumstances of the murder seem to be that John Whittingham was one of a group of men including 2 Draper brothers who set out to 'rescue' Mrs Draper from a local strong-house pending her trial. In the course of the rescue, Thompson, a local policeman was killed.

If you subsequently discover any further information to verify or negate the above, please advise.
kind regards

-apologies-
John Whittingham was bp at Ruardean in 1791 [not Walford]

In the Download Section of this Forum - Gloucester Inquests Part 2 - is the Article re: Murder of PC - Henry Thompson 1817 of Ruardean

On Thursday, at Lidbrook, (in the presence of the Magistrates of the Forest Division,) on the body of Mr Henry THOMPSON, who, whilst in the execution of his office as constable of the parish of Ruardean, was, about the hour of seven on the preceding morning, shot dead by William TURNER, labourer of the parish of Walford, in the County of Hereford, in company with his brother Richard TURNER and John WHITTINGHAM, labourers, both of the same place, and Richard SCUFFLER, labourer of St Briavell's, all armed with guns and bludgeons.

After a full investigation, the jury found a verdict of Wilful Murder against WILLIAM TURNER, and also against the above name three persons, for aiding and abetting the said WILLIAM TURNER to commit the murder.

Reports of the incident ' ATROCIOUS MURDER' and 'FROM A CORRESPONDENT' and a ' WANTED' advert for WILLIAM TURNER with description and details.

According to the Gloucestershire Genealogical Database

Goal records

15 May 1817, John WHITTINGTON (labourer) - residence Walford, Herefordshire - was aged 26 c1791

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Gloucestershire Genealogical Database

Richard TURNER was aged 22 from Walford and tried - 19 May 1817 (Ancestry - Death executed (Murder) - Summer 1817, Gloucester) on Page 19 ****

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Gloucestershire Genealogical Database

Richard SCUFFLER - age 23, - Collier, Newland, (17 May 1817)
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Looking through Ancestry, Summer Assizes, John WE(I)LLINGHAM - Death, Executed (Murder) on Page 18

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Fod Records

Baptism at Walford - 4 December 1816

Richard TURNER

parents: Richard TURNER and Ann MAGNESS

Residence: Furnaces at Ruardean

Memorandum: Natural son of Richard TURNER by Ann MAGNESS

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Ann MAGNESS married Thomas WOORE at Walford - 9 August 1819

re marriage for John Whittingham & Margaret [possible parents of John Whittingham convicted 1817]
No idea on marriage at all... have checked general & advanced search of FOD
index and Familysearch. I think it possible that Margaret went on to marry
John Morris following death of first husband.
re John Whittingham who was subject of the proceedings in 1817... I have
conjectured that he was the John married to Isabella, if he was around her
age and died before birth of James in 1817 as noted in the PR. I have been
trying to find any references to John's identity & direct relatives in any
of the details of the trial, but I have only found circumstances.

It looks possible margare re married john morris and had 3 children looking at the 1841 census, it also says margaret was birj in herefordshire, any ideas frim ger approx birthdate what her maiden name was before she married john whittingham (if indeed she did ).