Daniel and Sylvanus Vick (General)

by ieeee, Saturday, November 08, 2014, 05:43 (3663 days ago)

Hello everyone :-)

I am in Australia and my sister and I are researching our family history on both sides.
This is a substantial job started late in life !!
The Vick family form part of our heritage and we are seeking more information please if anyone can help

We understand that both Daniel Vick (b. 1753) and his son Sylvanus (1792-1846) are buried in the churchyard of St. John the Baptist, Elmore
Sylvanus having a monument and Daniel a plain grave

Sylvanus's daughter, our Great grandmother Cate Lancshire Vick, came to Australia around 1849 and married our great grandfather who had also emigrated here around the same time. Our own fathers name included the name Vick as a second name.

What we are seeking to know is if anyone is aware of any photos of these graves or any inscriptions on them.
We have googled but cannot see the church yard as it is surrounded by trees .
I have searched for photos but nothing comes up for me

I would be most grateful if anyone knows or knows of such information

many thanks

Ieeee

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Saturday, November 08, 2014, 11:07 (3662 days ago) @ ieeee

I guess this refers to the Elmore just across the Severn. The link below contains some monumental inscriptions – there are several VICKs mentioned but no Sylvanus. Perhaps this means his monument is no longer extant or cannot be read. There is a Daniel but he's much too late to be yours.

http://places.wishful-thinking.org.uk/GLS/Elmore/MIs.html

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by ieeee, Saturday, November 08, 2014, 13:29 (3662 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

thank you so much Mike
yes....it is the Elmore across the river.
i have googled and googled and *driven* the roads LOL

I had seen that link you mention and should have said it was not the right one.
My sister and I are trying to find the link we had that said that there are such graves.
one is a monument supposedly .....as opposed to a grave.

it is very very late here and my brain is smashed from so many divergent families and members and am not tracking well right now.

thanks heaps for the help
some link yesterday led me to this site.
should i be looking for one more appropriate do you think ???

ieeee

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by ieeee, Saturday, November 08, 2014, 14:07 (3662 days ago) @ ieeee

link to some info

http://www.selectsurnames3.com/vick.html

There were other Vicks in Gloucestershire by the 18th century. At Elmore church near Stroud there are family monuments to Silvanus Vick who died there in 1776 and his son Daniel who died in 1810.
On his death in 1754 William Vick, a Bristol wine merchant, left money to fund the construction of a bridge across the Avon Gorge. This eventually became the Clifton suspension bridge.

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, November 08, 2014, 15:50 (3662 days ago) @ ieeee

There were VICKE's in Gloucestershire in 1608

http://www.coaley.net/glos1608/index.php

Kings Stanley (Stonehouse)

John VICKE has two calivers furnished
Thomas VICKE - husbandman A40 (aged around 40) lower stature
William VICKE - husbandman A20 (tallest stature, trained)

Eastington (Stonehouse)

Richard VICKE tailor, A20 Lower stature

Fretherne (Gloucester)

Thomas VICKE - mason

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Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations (on this website) - lots of VICK's including

Marriage Allegations, Berkeley - 2 June 1830

Sylvanus VICK - over 21, Bachelor, Farmer, residence: Wheatenhurst

married

Ann LANCASHIRE over 21, Spinster, residence, Berkeley

Sworn before Arthur Benoni Evans - to marry in the parish church of Berkeley
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The children of Sylvan & Ann VICK - were christened (CLDS) at Eldersfield, Worcestershire and Colwall, Hereford - also freely available on the 'net'. Tried to do the link without success - just google : Eldersfield Parish Records - also Colwall baptisms.

i.e. Kate Lanckshire - 14 December 1834 - Eldersfield

1841 Census, Colwall, Herefordshire

VICK

Sylvanus - 40 - Not born in County
Hannah - 40
Elizah Ann 10, Theresa 8, Kate Lancaster 6, Martha Emmeline 4, and (Stella 1 month - living with her Uncle Daniel VICK at Elsmore - 1851 census)


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Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD

Silvanus VICK of Elmore married Ann MARTIN at Rodborough - 4 January 1813

and Gloucesteshire Baptism Index CD - children on Silvanus (Sadler also Harness maker) & Ann

William Henry - 15 November 1813 residence: Elmore (*** buried - 12 July 1815 age 1 - see below)
Richard Martin - 23 August 1815 St Mary de Crypt, Gloucester
Ann - 23 May 1817 - ditto
Samuel - born 4 December 1819 baptised - 4 January 1820 - ditto
Caroline - 5 April 1822 - ditto
Daniel Charles - 2 February 1830 - ditto
William - 13 November 1833 - ditto

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1841 Census, Southgate Street, St Mary de Crypt

VICK

Richard 25 - Sadler
Samuel - 20 - Grocer
Daniel - 11
William - 7
Ann - 45
Caroline - 16

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Gloucestershire Burial Index CD

Buried at Elsmore St John the Baptist

VICK

Daniel - 1 March 1826 aged 37 - Elmore
Daniel - 2 November 1851 aged 42 - Gloucester
John - 13 Aug 1850 - aged 74 - Elmore
Joseph - 4 June 1850 age 25 - Elmore
Mary - 14 July 1819 aged 4 month - Elmore
Mary Ann - 16 Sept 1819 aged 6 - Elmore
Samuel - 8 February 1819 aged 82 - Elmore
Sylvanus 26 July 1846 - aged 62 Gloucester *****
William - 19 Aug 1834 aged 83 - Hardwick
William - 23 February 1848 - aged 65 - Gloucester
William - 5 February 1850 aged 69 - Elmore
William - 8 June 1851 aged 25 - Elmore
William Henry - 12 July 1815 aged 1 - Gloucester ****


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Gloucestershirebdm has : Sylvanus VICK - Death: 1846 - St John the Baptist District: age 62

So, this isn't Kate's father buried at Elmore - as he was born c1809

??
1851 Census, Westbury on Trym

Seleman/Silvanus VICK

John HOPTON - 67
Martha HOPTON - 67
Seleman VICK - 40 - son-in-law - Widower, Farmer, born Elsmore
George HOPTON - 6 Grandson

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by ieeee, Sunday, November 09, 2014, 06:15 (3661 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thanks for all that information, so much to be digested and assessed for personal relevance.

You mentioned the marriage of Silvanus Vick and Ann Lancashire in 1830 (our ancestors) and also that an 1846 death of a 62 year old Silvanus Vick would not be the same person. An alternative death for "our" ancestor is 1861 which I do not feel suits the social history we know, ie they had left the farm in Colwall in 1844 and all children were living with relatives at the 1851 census. Is there any chance that the "62" for age on the CD could be a typo for 52?

I cannot find the wife Ann, born 1805 in Denby, in any 1841 census returns despite extensive searching and had thought she'd died following the birth of the daughter born earlier in 1841. However, she showed up a couple of years later in a newspaper article. Is there any chance that a definite sighting appears in any Gloucestershire death records you have access to? I found a digitised copy of a parish register for a death of Ann Vick, wife of Silvanus Vick in Brecon in 1850. Innkeeper was recorded. That is my current favourite as her death as it still fits in with kids being with relatives at the next census.

The 30 year old Hannah Vick in the family's 1841 census records remains a mystery. I guess she must be a cousin and I've tried to see if she fits in with other Vick families but have yet to find A Hannah Vick which seems correct. Do you have any ideas please?

Many thanks for your time and thought.

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, November 09, 2014, 07:21 (3661 days ago) @ ieeee

Just for starters


Gloucestershirebdm

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Registers the death of

Sylvanus VICK - age 62 in 1846, District: Gloucester St John the Baptist (same age on the CD)
and
Silvanus VICK - aged 68 in 1861, District :Gloucester South Hamlet


Ann VICK - 11 April 1844 aged 94 Eldersfield
Anne VICK - 14 June 1859 aged 39, Gloucester

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Had a quick check on National Archives - just Google A2A

and shows a Will of John VICK of Haresfield, gent (testator) (2) George Nicholas DANGERFIELD of Cheltenham, Docot

Gloucestershireshire Parish Deeds, Part 3, Parish Deeds Haresfield, druggist (sons, trustee and joint executor) (4) Sylvanus VICK (brother) (5) Mary VICK (daughter) Will made 18 June 1859 - Probate sworn under £2,000 Freehold and leasehold estates in Arlingham and Churcham

Held by Gloucestershire Archives, Date: 13 April 1864, Reference: D2957/149/8

Daniel and Sylvanus Vick

by ieeee, Sunday, November 09, 2014, 08:38 (3661 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thanks for searching.

It’s good to know of the Gloucestershire BDM site. I will visit it again and I’m sure it will be useful.

Neither Ann Vick is relevant and it’s good to be able to exclude options.

The will is relevant so we’ll definitely be examining that.

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