Parentage of Maria Parry baptized June 1st 1823 at Blaisdon

It seems that her parents are James Parry 1790 and (Elizabeth possibly Betsey??? 1786), who married at Longhope in 1808, but maybe I am wrong so confirmation or correction would be most helpful. Maria was married to William Parry at Tibberton Glos. on Oct. 10th 1854, William was aged 31 and Maria 29.
Maria appears in the 1841 Census aged 15, the only other household member is a James Parry age 20 presumably a brother. She is not in the 1851 Census but is in the 1861 census now married.
Having established her parentage I want to research her grandparents etc. etc
many thanks in anticipation

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Maria PERRY aged 26 - born Blairdon - is on the 1851 census - with Thomas CARTER and Charlotte CARTER, who was born in Blaisdon - and Charlotte was a witness at her wedding.

1851 Census, Matson Parish, Gloucestershire

Reservoir Inn

CARTER

Thomas - 25 - innkeeper - born Gloucester Eastington
Charlotte - 22 - born Blaisdon
Charlotte - daughter - 3 weeks, born Gloucester Matson (Gloucestershirebdm, mother's maiden name : PARRY) ***
Sarah A JUKES - visitor - 23 Milliner, born Chipping Sodbury
Maria PARRY - visitor - 26 - born Blaisdon
etc etc

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Fod Records

This is Maria's sister - who married Thomas CARTER at Tibberton: 6 June 1850 and christened 1827 at Blaisdon

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1841 Census Blaisdon

PARRY

James - 50
Betsey - 50
Eleanor - 20
John - 15
Charlotte - 13
George - 10

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Just for starters - there are previous threads

In the search box, enter, James Parry Tibberton

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I have Maria Parry in my family tree,I believe she is my 2nd great grand aunt, her sister Eleanor{Ellen} Parry is my 2nd great grandmother, who married Charles Martin from Blaisdon. I am still trying to find out more info about James Parry and his wife Elizabeth {Betsy} Coleman, but not having much luck

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From MPG's post, 1841 Census Blaisdon
PARRY
James - 50 (farmer) =>1790
Betsey - 50 =>1790
Eleanor - 20
John - 15
Charlotte - 13
George - 10

From this site's PRs, which you've probably already found;

Record_ID: 109513
Entry_Number:
Year: 1808
Month: Apr
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: PARRY
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Longhope
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: COLEMAN
Brides_Forenames: Betsey
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Longhope
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: J[oh]n Coleman
Witness_2: Betsey Parry
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Williams Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 52
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex_Groom: P600
Soundex_Bride: C455

Record_ID: 149856
Entry_Number: 54
Year: 1819
Month: Mar
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaysdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: John Newport Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 149868
Entry_Number: 66
Year: 1821
Month: Mar
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaysdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: R G Bradstock
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 9
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 149890
Entry_Number: 88
Year: 1823
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Maria
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaysdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: The Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 149903
Entry_Number: 101
Year: 1825
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Eliz[abe]th
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaisdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: The Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 149917
Entry_Number: 115
Year: 1827
Month: Mar
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Charlotte
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaisdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: Edwd Jones Officiating Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 149938
Entry_Number: 136
Year: 1829
Month: Nov
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Edward George
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaysdon
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: The Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex: P600

Record_ID: 1443
Entry_Number: 2
Year: 1839
Month: May
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: DREW
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age: Full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Butcher
Grooms_Residence: Huntley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Drew
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: PARRY
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Blaysdon
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Parry
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Eleanor Parry
Witness_2: Thomas Drew
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Will[iam] Black Rector of Blaysdon
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 1
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex_Groom: D600
Soundex_Bride: P600

Record_ID: 1448
Entry_Number: 7
Year: 1843
Month: Apr
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: MARTIN
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: Full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miller
Grooms_Residence: Blaysdon
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Martin
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: PARRY
Brides_Forenames: Ellen
Brides_Age: Full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Farmer`s daughter
Brides_Residence: Blaysdon
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Parry
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: J S Parry
Witness_2: Charlotte Parry
Other_Witnesses: W[illia]m Blewett
Officiating_Minister: Will[iam] Black Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Bride signed Eleanor
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon
Soundex_Groom: M635
Soundex_Bride: P600

A possible? Baptism for James ?;

Record_ID: 391820
Entry_Number:
Year: 1790
Month: Jan
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Esther
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 113
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: P600

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Record_ID: 49032
Entry_Number:
Year: 1781
Month: Apr
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: PARREY
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Parish of Huntley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HULETT
Brides_Forenames: Hesther
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Parish of Bulley
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: The mark of [illegible]
Witness_2: James Parry
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Ja[me]s Edwards Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Married in the Chapel of Bulley
Notes:
Register_Reference: P83 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Churcham
Soundex_Groom: P600
Soundex_Bride: H430

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From Ancestry,

1851 Census, Tibberton;
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
James Parry Head(farmer 50acres, 2 labourers) 64 1787 Male Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England
Betsy Parry Wife 58 1793 Female Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Edward Parry Son 21 1830 Male Blaisden, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Census, part of 44 Westgate Street, Gloucester;
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country Gloucestershire England
Betsey Parry Widow 74 1787 Female Longhope Gloucestershire England
Elizabeth Carter Granddaughter 11 1850 Female Matson Gloucestershire England

Record_ID: 85632
Entry_Number: 479
Year: 1859
Month: Jun
Day: 28
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: James
Residence: Churcham
Age_at_death: 85
Officiating_Minister: J.G.Croker Officiating Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 18416
Page_No: 60
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: P600

So born abt 1774, maybe the wrong man ? NOTE Churcham for later..

GlosBMD; Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
CARTER Charlotte Elizabeth CARTER CARTER PARRY 1851 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 7 382

1871 Census, Northgate St, Gloucester;
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
James Parry Head(provision merchant) 50 1821 Male Blaisden Gloucestershire England
Emily J Parry Wife 43 1828 Female Uley Gloucestershire England
Charlotte E Parry Daughter 12 1859 Female Gloucestershire England
Edmund C E Parry Son 7 1864 Male Gloucestershire England
Betsy Parry Mother(widow) 84 1787 Female Longhope Gloucestershire England
Charlotte E Carter Niece 21 1850 Female Gloucestershire England
Alice Draisey Servant 16 1855 Female Popes Hill Gloucestershire England

1881 Census, part of 2 Alvin St, Gloucester;
Given Name Surname Relationship to Head Marital Status Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country
Charlotte Eliz. Cleverly Head Married 30 1851 Female Gloucestershire England
George G. Cleverly Son 4 1877 Male Gloucestershire England
Eveline Cleverly Daughter 2 1879 Female Gloucestershire England
Charles Hy. Cleverly Son Male Gloucestershire England
Betty Parry Grandmother Widower 96 1785 Female Longhope Gloucestershire England

GlosBMD; Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
CLEVERLY George CARTER Charlotte Elizabeth Gloucester Gloucester St Nicholas 1876 35A X No 3 162

From PRs;
Record_ID: 85863
Entry_Number: 710
Year: 1883
Month: Dec
Day: 28
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: Betsy
Residence: Churcham
Age_at_death: 97 years
Officiating_Minister: Henry Miles Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 18416
Page_No: 89
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: P600

So born abt 1786, so could be our Betsy, in Churcham again.
Or is this the lady who witnessed James & Betsy's marriage ?

This maybe relevant, this James ALSO resided at Churcham ?

Record_ID: 85892
Entry_Number: 739
Year: 1887
Month: Apr
Day: 5
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: James
Residence: Churcham
Age_at_death: 62
Officiating_Minister: Henry Miles Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 18416
Page_No: 93
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: P600

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The BNA includes a few adverts/notices relating to a James Parry of Blaisdon,

eg;

Gloucestershire Chronicle
15 Nov 1834

"One Guinea Reward.
LOST, on Monday, Nov. 10th, in Blaisdon Wood, a Brown SETTER DOG, answers to the name of Ranger.— Any Person bringing the said Dog to Mr. James Parry, Spout Farm, Blaisdon, will receive the above reward."

Was James Parry a trusted employee of the Coleman family, hence the marriage to Betsey Coleman ?, as follows;

eg advert Gloucester Journal, 5 Jan 1839, advertises auction at the Red Lion, Huntley, of 50 Superior Oak trees and 800 prime Larch poles.....James Parry, residing at Little London will show the Lots, further particulars .....Mr John Coleman of Longhope.

Another very similar advert includes;
Gloucester Journal 26 February 1842 for auction at Lower George Inn, Gloucester, re trees & coppice timber at Blaisdon, ..... James Parry, Little London, will show the Lots, other info from John Coleman Longhope or Solomon Coleman Solicitor Longhope.

and

Gloucester Journal 6 March 1815; timber auction at Red Hart, Blasidon, James Parry(the Woodward) will shew the wood....John Coleman Longhope.

also

"8 December 1831 - Cheltenham Chronicle, Marriages;
On Tuesday, at Blaisdon, in this county, by the Rev. Mr Black, Mr J. Drinkwater, of the Pool House, Huntley, to Caroline, eldest daughter of Mr James Parry, of the former place."

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Not sure if this is relevant, but the Gloucestershire Echo of 29 March 1945 has a detailed article and photo;
"LOCAL CENTENARIAN MRS GEORGE WYNN.
CHELTENHAM today lost another of its centenarians by the death of Mrs. George Wynn, of Blaisdon, Alstone Croft. She died this morning in her 101 st year—she would have been 101 on July 25 next. Born in Herefordshire, came to Cheltenham in early 20s.....her mother Mrs James Parry of Tewkesbury, lived to within months of her century, dying in 1915".
I think the Blaisdon reference is a house name, but this, plus her mother's name...

???

The previous year the same paper 25 July 1944 carries an article about her receiving her 100th birthday Telegram, stating she's Cheltenham's oldest resident, mentions her son & daughter Mr Ernest H Wynn and Miss Laura Wynn, plus more family, also her birthplace at Knottwood Hill, Blaisdon.

QED ??

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Also find this mentions of Spout Farm Blaisdon within local Trade Directories, eg

Slater's Directory of Newnham 1868, With the Parishes and Villages of Awre, Blakeney, Cinderford, Blaisdon, Flaxley, Little Dean, and the South End Hamlets of East Dean.

Farmer, PARRY, John, Spout Blaisdon.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/newnham1868.htm

also here http://www.parishmouse.co.uk/gloucestershire/longhope/1863

I guess that John's wife was Sarah, and he's died by 1870 ?, see these later Directories, also note Solomon Coleman's business
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/longhope1870.htm
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/longhope1876.htm

For more info about Solomon Coleman see this prior thread;
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=41720

Spout Farm is touched-on within this detailed history of Blaisdon,
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol10/pp6-7
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol10/pp7-8
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol10/pp8-9

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A new webpage to me, lots of Longhope names listed here, including Betsey
http://www.oocities.org/longfk/people10.html

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I've downloaded the relevant newspaper pages if anyone would like the above articles, just send me a private mail via the envelope icon, ta.

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Hi annrh32, It seems we have a mutual interest in Maria Parry who married William Parry on 10th October 1854 at Tibberton Glos, you are probably aware of that, however William was a brother to Edmund Parry my Great grandfather.
I am willing to share information which maybe beneficial to you, and you may be able to help me, if that is the case I suggest this is not done in the public domain

regards

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Hi, Maria Parry which i am interested in was the daughter of James and Elizabeth [Betsey] Parry, her sister Eleanor [Ellen] Parry was my 2nd great grandmother, not sure if it is the same Maria Parry.

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Hi again Ann,
I see you've been busy on the forum lately so I thought I'd try again to contact you - normally I'd have emailed you directly off-forum, however there doesn't seem to be an envelope icon being displayed against your username, I know not why. I do hope this doesn't mean you've been having a difficult year too, if so I hope it's in the past and it's good to see you back on forum, just as it's also nice for me to be back after a long enforced break.
If you recall we briefly chatted by email re James Parry of Blaisdon, and I promised to send you some newspaper cutting downloads I'd found which (briefly) mention him. I realise it took me a few weeks, sorry, but I did send them to your email address back in April, and then again in August. I don't think you received them as you didn't reply which seemed unlike you, I guess you have changed your email address?, so if you could please email me via the blue envelope icon and I will try to resend them to you.
Apologies for my delay in contacting you,
Atb Jeff.

PS I hope you made some headway with your query's re composer Hubert Parry ?

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On 12/11/2015 15:29, eric_parry@sky.com wrote:

Hi Jefff, thank you for your message dated 10 Nov (Tues) addressed to
ANN!!!. The original posting is mine however, and I did receive
communications/cuttings from you in Feb of this year, and it seems
that I did not reply which is very unusual for me, I apologise.
Getting back to business and looking back through my files I have
communicated with annrh32 also in the early part of this year, who I
think might be the ANN you refer to. I don't think I was much help to
her, and it is obvious that we have a shared interest in the Parry
family so I would like to make amends if possible. Ref. your
postscript concerning Hubert Parry the Composer, I have not raised him
in the past therefore it must have been ANN. Please observe the
following which may be of interest. In the Gloucester Citizen
27/5/1885 the following appeared in the Miscellaneous section '' I the
undersigned MARIA PARRY of Birdwood House Churcham in the County of
Gloucester, the wife of William Parry of the same place, DO HEREBY
GIVE NOTICE that my husband, William Parry is not authorized to buy,
sell, or remove any goods on my behalf,, or to act as my agent, in any
way, and that I WILL NOT BE BOUND OR RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ACT
COMMITTED BY HIM. Dated this 22nd day of May 1885''.
I see you have been away from the forum since the Spring, I have not
been researching for quite sometime now , but intend to get back into
it now the Winter is nigh upon us
All the best
regards
Eric Parry (goldenfox)

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Good evening Goldenfox, ("shades" of "Eric the Red" perhaps ?),

Please accept my apologies Eric for not replying to your post sooner. Yes I do indeed recall discussing the Parrys with you on and off the forum earlier this year, thanks. I also exchanged a few emails with Ann as it seems you did too, but then we lost contact, which worried me a little. I was therefore pleased to see her recent post above, so I thought I'd try to make contact again, altho it seems without success, I do hope she's well.

Re the Parrys of Blaisdon or, indeed, anywhere else, I'm afraid I don't have any links at all with the Parry family that I'm aware of. My forum posts & subsequent emails were just a case of my trying to help fellow forum members such as you & Ann, particularly regarding the old newspaper articles as I had a short BNA subscription to use at that time. Hence I'm afraid I don't have any more Parry information that I can help you with, and thanks for your kind offer but your info would be wasted on me, sorry. Perhaps if it's not too personal you might consider sharing it with any other Parry researchers by posting it to the forum ?.

I wish you well in your researches now you're back in the fold, and look forward to chatting again.
All the very best to you & yours, Jeff Jones "nee" Wright.

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Hi Jeff, thanks for your reply ref Samuel Parry, yes I did look at the Inquests etc. and also tried a search on FOD coal mining pits, and accidents but got nowhere fast.
Ref: a reply to, I assume, your post dated Dec 2nd 2015 which was a reply to a post from me earlier in the year, I have read and re-read your post and wonder what the specific point you raised was which necessitated an answer.
Please reply at your earliest as I would be happy to answer the point raised
regards
Eric

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Good evening Eric,
please accept my apologies, my mind is in a mess these days !. I'm so sorry for mailing you, when I sure your post today I immediately and mistakenly thought you were the lady (Anne?) in this thread who I was to contact last year, re our emails and some old newspaper articles I hope I've sent her.
Apologies for confusing you, and thanks so much for your quick reply.
If I can I'll try and search for Samuel later, altho not sure where to look at this moment. I suspect you've searched this database, I cannot see him on here, but I know from previous experience this list doesn't include everyone.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html

I presume you don't have his Death certificate ? (I've never bought one for any of the many people I've researched in my various trees, not sure why not, so I'm not for a moment suggesting you should have Samuel's, but it may help).
atb jeff

PS I assume you've seen this Parry website in your travels, altho it doesn't seem to help in this instance.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/im.griffiths/parryfamilyhistory/parryprobate/npi.htm#1858-...

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Parentage of Maria Parry baptized June 1st 1823 at Blaisdon (Parish Records)