Samuel BURGHAM and son Samuel, Cinderford/Drybrook area. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, November 22, 2014, 15:59 (3648 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thanks Mike, well found.

Clearly looks the same family to me, despite Drusilla's claimed age.

Searching this site's PRs, think this is Drusilla's husband Samuel, a good fit despite Samuel being a popular Burgham name at the time including a couple in the general Newent/Astons area;

Record_ID: 33185
Entry_Number: 757
Year: 1858
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: BURGUM
Child_Forenames: Samuel
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Salome
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: LIttle Dean
Occupation: Haulier
Officiating_Minister: John J Hedges
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Margin note Privately.Rec[eive]d into Cong[regatio]n on July 18
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 95
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: B625

and again;

Record_ID: 6769
Entry_Number: 1334
Year: 1910
Month: Feb
Day: 16
Surname: BURGAM
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Workhouse Westbury
Age_at_death: 55 years
Officiating_Minister: F. W. Cresswell Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/14
Page_No: 168
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B625

So born abt 1855, seems good fit despite change of Church.

Looking like young Samuel "Junior" setup home in Drybrook, so towards Gorsley etc.
Looking like aforementioned Reg Office 1908 Marriage to Selina is his and not his father;

Record_ID: 108666
Entry_Number: 1138
Year: 1914
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BURGHAM
Child_Forenames: Samuel
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Mothers_Forenames: Selina
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Nelson Green
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J Lawton Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 143
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: B625

Record_ID: 249418
Entry_Number: 926
Year: 1922
Month: Nov
Day: 8
Surname: BURGHAM
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Wigpool
Age_at_death: 65 years
Officiating_Minister: H M Biddell
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 116
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: B625

So this Samuel also born abt 1857, eek, makes it tricky !?

Record_ID: 1008038
Entry_Number: 75
Year: 1934
Month: Jul
Day: 22
Surname: BURGHAM
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 53
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38
Page_No: 10
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: B625

So born abt 1880, think this is Samuel Jr, Selina's husband.

There are much later Samuel Burghams/Burgums etc in the Drybrook/Ruardean Hill area too. Best left for another day methinks, hopefully already in the prior threads ?.
Yes, hints here for births to Samuel & Selina, www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=7111

Re Selina John/Johns, I've searched but am struggling to find a definite birth record.
What I do notice tho on FreeBMD is there are quite a few of this name, from the Worcs/Warks midland thro to Cornwall, so perhaps sugesting a gipsy tradition ?. ALL the John (rather than Johns) are recorded in West & South Wales....

Here's her Burial, again on Ruardean Hill so presumably still with Samuel Jr ?

Record_ID: 1009338
Entry_Number: 1373
Year: 1958
Month: Feb
Day: 14
Surname: BURGHAM
Forenames: Selina
Residence: Rose Tree Cottage Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 75
Officiating_Minister: Eric J Hoskin Rector of Ruardean
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38
Page_No: 172
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: B625

(So born abt 1883 which seems probable)

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I'm afraid I still cannot find Drusilla Burgham after 1901, or Selina John's birth.
Any takers please ?.