Hi, can anyone help in researching a relation of mine, charles hutton b abt 1825, llangarron or st weonsrds, married a mary anne seaborn b abt 1830 st weonards in 1852 st weonards, i'm looking for the parents of both and any othet info please,

Regards phil

FamilySearch:-

Name Mary Seaborne
Gender Female
Christening Date 14 Jun 1829
Christening Place SAINT WEONARDS,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name William Seaborne
Mother's Name Anne

Also FamilySearch, 1841 Census:-

Name Mary Ann Seborne
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Weonard, Herefordshire, England
Residence Note Partridge Nest
Gender Female
Age 12
Age (Original) 12
Birth Year (Estimated) 1829
Birthplace Herefordshire
Registration District Ross
Book Number 15
Parish St Weonard
County Herefordshire

1841 Census Household

Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Seborne M 35-39 Herefordshire
Ann Seborne F 35-39 Herefordshire
Mary Ann Seborne F 12 Herefordshire
Thomas Seborne M 9 Herefordshire
William Seborne M 4 Herefordshire
Eliza Seborne F 7 month Herefordshire
John Gwatkin M 11 Herefordshire
William Gwatkin M 8 Herefordshire

Many thanks, now for the huttons,

BNA Hereford Journal - Wednesday 28 January 1829

HEREFORD
WEDNESDAY JANUARY 28

On Tuesday was married, at St. Weonards, Mr. William Seborne to Miss Mary Preddy, both of that parish.

FamilySearch:-

Name William Seborn
Spouse's Name Anne Priddy
Event Date 20 Jan 1829
Event Place Saint Weonards,Hereford,England

Many thanks mike, any luck tracing charles hutton b abt 1826 ( censuses say st weonards / llangarron/ and just herefordshire, he had a son edwin b1865, llangarron, edwin then married mary james in pontypool 1891, i am trying to search her family too, edwin and mary had a son samuel b1898 in whitchurch,f8 herefordshire, he was a prisoner of war in 1917 after the battle of messines, belguim.

The closest I can get is this from FamilySearch:-

Name: Hutton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1823
Baptism Place: Saint Weonards,Hereford,England
Father: James Hutton
Mother: Elizabeth

And this marriage from the same source:-

Name James Hutton
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Lewis
Event Date 17 Jul 1823
Event Place Saint Weonards,Hereford,England

It also might be possible to make a family out of this from FamilySearch:-

Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
26 December 1823
SAINT WEONARDS, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Mary Anne Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
30 April 1826
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
residence:
Llangarren, Hereford, England
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Harriot Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
6 February 1831
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

James Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
26 January 1834
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
residence:
Llangarren, Hereford, England
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Eliza Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
17 April 1836
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
residence:
Llangarren, Hereford, England
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Emma Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
17 February 1839
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Emma Hutton
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
7 April 1839
LLANGARREN, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
father:
James Hutton
mother:
Elizabeth

Hi Mike,
your "closest" is better than I've been doing, so well done I say !
Not sure of your method of search, I don't have Ancestry at the mo, so only Familysearch like you. I maybe wrong but there seems to be more than one Charles HUtton in the Ross "area" at abt our time, judging by the census returns ? (not to mention several Chas HAttons too !). Please advise how you found our man's parents - I can only see Charles in the 1841 & 1851 census as an employee, so not in his parents household, nor can I see a Baptism for him, so..?.
Not ! that I don't believe your findings, just want to learn your method, please.

Phil,
Re Charles & Maryanne's children, I cannot see Edwin's baptism, but I have found these;

Name George Hutton
Gender Male
Christening Date 11 Nov 1855
Christening Place Welsh Newton, Hereford, England
Father's Name Charles Hutton
Mother's Name Maryanne
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

Name Sarah Ann Hutton
Gender Female
Christening Date 1853
Christening Place WELSH NEWTON, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name Charles Hutton
Mother's Name Mary Ann
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

Hi Jeff,

A belated welcome back, by the way. It was just a simple search with surname HUTTON (and no forename) with Weonards as the birthplace. I don't know if the result was correct but it's possible.

Yes, there are more Charles HUTTONs in the Ross area at the time. One of them is a hairdresser who appears in the BNA in relation to a stabbing by his brother, Thomas. I don't think he is the correct person though.

Thanks Mike for your kind words, it's nice to be back amongst all you good folk !

Thanks too for explaining your thinking, very smart; it's been sometime since I've used LDS, over-reliant on Ancestry I guess, so thanks for giving me a much-needed refresher course, need to get my grey matter working a bit harder again !.

Yes, I can't fault your logic, if he says that's his birthplace then your suggested parents seems perfectly likely to me, well done sir.

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Re Charles Hutton the hairdresser, he's listed in the 1856 Post Office Directory of Herefordshire. This is the oldest Directory for this area in the excellent Trade Directories site, hopefully this general link will work.
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/map/collection/p16445coll4

HUttons listed in this Directory include

"Henry Hutton, fishmonger & poulterer, Corps Cross St, Ross.
John Hutton, Carpenter, Hoarwithy.
Mrs Elizabeth Hutton, Milliner, Hoarwithy. (John's wife?)
C.Hutton, Hairdresser, Gloster Rd, Ross.
T.Hutton, Lodginghouse keeper, Bye St, Hereford.

Hopefully these maybe of some help/interest to Phil.

Mike, here they are in 1841 ref Familysearch

Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Llangarron, Herefordshire, England
Residence Note Old Pounds

HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE

James Hutton M 40-44 Herefordshire
Elizabeth Hutton F 36-40 Herefordshire
Elizabeth Hutton F 12 Herefordshire
Harriet Hutton F 10 Herefordshire
James Hutton M 7 Herefordshire
Eliza Hutton F 5 Herefordshire
Emma Hutton F 2 Herefordshire

"England and Wales Census, 1841,FamilySearch"

Searching the 1861 Census, albeit individually, suggests the parents are still In Llangarron;

James born 1801, Much Dewchurch, Herefordshire
Elzabeth born 1805, Garway, Herefordshire.

Searching LDS again appears to give James' parents thus;

Name James Hutton
Gender Male
Christening Date 1802
Christening Place MUCH DEWCHURCH, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name Nicholas Hutton
Mother's Name Catharine

Which gives;
Name Nicholas Hutton
Spouse's Name Catharine Watkins
Event Date 24 Apr 1799
Event Place Much Dewchurch,Hereford,England
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N268-B4P : accessed 22 November 2015),

Phil, all these records are available f-o-c by searching the excellent LDS aka Familysearch website, just take care to be methodical and always ensure the correct filters etc are ticked, good luck !

https://familysearch.org/search

Thank you gentlemen, anything on mary james ??? ( married edwin hutton )

Sorry Phil, I've got to get back to fixing my dead C/H boiler, can't think why but the missus is complaining...maybe I should have fixed it in the summer months ?...!.
Have you tried searching LDS from the links we posted ?. It's an excellent site with stacks of info, just takes time to search them out which sadly I don't have at the mo.
All the best, Jeff.

I guess this is the marriage referred to for Edwin HUTTON:-

From FamilySearch General Register:-

Name Edwin Leonard Hutton
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1891
Registration District Pontypool
County Monmouthshire
Event Place Pontypool, Monmouthshire, England
Volume 11A
Page 229
Line Number 219
Edwin Leonard Hutton probably married one of the following people
Name Caroline Davies
Name Mary James
Name Jabez Matthews

And from FamilySearch parish records:-

Name Edwin Hutton
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 08 Apr 1891
Event Place Mamheilad [Mamhilad], Monmouthshire, Wales
Age 26
Birth Year (Estimated) 1865
Spouse's Name Mary James

In 1881 it looks like Edwin (Edward sic – he is also referred to as Edward in the 1911 Census} was here in the household of his uncle:-

GR 1881 Census, Doward Farm, Ganarew, Heref,

Wm WILLIAMS, Head, Mar, 53, Farmer of 100 acres, b. Heref. Ganarew
Elizabeth, Wife, Mar, 52, Heref. Llangarren
Edward L. HUTTON, Nephew, Un, 15, Farm servant indoors. Heref. Llangarren
Thomas ALLAWAY, Servant, Un, 15, Farm servant indoors. Heref. Ganarew

Elizabeth must be the sister of Charles HUTTON as identified in Jeff’s 1841 Census post above.

The marriage from FamiySearch:-

Name Elizabeth Hutton
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1853
Registration District Ross
County Herefordshire
Event Place Ross, Herefordshire, England
Volume 6A
Page 671
Line Number 9
Elizabeth Hutton probably married one of the following people
Name William Williams

If Edwin HUTTON and Mary were married in Mamhilad there should be some indication of their presence in the neighbourhood. This for Mary JAMES:-

GR 1891 Census, Cwm, Monmouth
Mon, Cwm
Eli BISHOP, Head, Mar, Head, 28, Labourer Iron Works, b. Mon, Cwm
Alice, Wife, Mar, 27, Mon, Cwm
Gladys, Daur, 6, Scholar, Mon, Cwm
Fred, Son, 3, Scholar, Mon, Cwm
Gertrude, Daur, 2, Mon, Cwm
Mary JAMES, Visitor, S, 28, Hereford, Whitchurch
Edwin DREW, Visitor, S, 27, Labourer Iron Works, Mon, Monmouth [on second view it looks more like OVEN]

Cwm is not that far from Mamhilad.

It might be very revealing if we can find Edwin HUTTON in the 1891 Census. This would be only a few days before his possible marriage.

As for Mary’s baptism:-

FamilySearch

Name Mary Anne James
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Jul 1862
Christening Place WHITCHURCH,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name James James
Mother's Name Ann