James, Alfred & Eliza CONSTANCE; James NELMES c1860s (General)

by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 19:29 (3098 days ago) @ Jefff

Hi Jeff,

By coincidence I was just tidying up this possibility when you posted. It may be that Alec has a lot of it. Or it might be that it’s plain wrong! There is a NELMES mentioned in the 1861 census data – clearly the James NELMES mentioned there is not a candidate for the marriage to Eliza but maybe a relative?

FamilySearch

Name James Constance
Event Type Marriage Banns
Event Date 25 Apr 1830
Event Place Monmouth, St Mary, Monmouthshire, Wales
Spouse's Name Jane Hiles

FODFHT

Record_ID: 107402
Entry_Number:
Year: 1830
Month: May
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: CONSTANCE
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HILES
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Frederic Herbert
Witness_2: Jane Price
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth

GR 1841 Census, Monmouth, Old Dixton Road

James CONSTANT, 36, Turner, not born in county
Jane, 30, not born in county
Charles, 10, not born in county
Helen, 8?, not born in county
Alfred, 6, not born in county
Reubin. 3, not born in county
Eliza, 5m, born in county

GR 1851 Census, All Saints, Hereford, Blue School Lane

Jane CONSTANCE, Head, Mar, 41, Wood Turner’s Wife, b. Gloucestershire, Lea Bailey
Eliza, Daur, 10, Monmouthshire, Monmouth
Martha, Daur, 5, Hereford, All Saints

Also GR 1851 Census, Dymock

Job WALL, Head, Mar, 45, Wood Turner, b. Gloster, Oxenhall
Ann, Wife, Mar, 42, Gloster, Dymock
Mary, Daur, 4, Gloster, Dymock
Job, Son, 2, Gloster, Dymock
Thomas, Son, 2m, Gloster, Dymock
John, Nephew, Un, 17, Wood Turner, Gloster, Oxenhall
James CONSTANCE, Lodger, Mar, 43, Wood Turner, Gloster, NK
Alfred CONSTANCE, Lodger, Un, 15, Wood Turner, Gloster, NK

FamilySearch

Name Jane Constance
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1855
Registration District Hereford
County Herefordshire
Event Place Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Volume 6A
Page 319
Line Number 7

In June 1855 the Hereford Times and the Hereford Journal reported the inquest into the death of Jane CONSTANCE, wife of Richard (sic) CONSTANCE, held at the Bell Inn, Blue School Lane, Hereford. She was in a state of serious neglect (which might have been self-inflicted) and may possibly have been consumptive or bronchitic as well. Her daughter, Martha, was also mentioned as a witness.

Name James Constance
Spouse's Name Harriet Dale
Event Date 23 Mar 1856
Event Place Holmer, Hereford, England
Father's Name Thomas Constance
Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Dale

GR 1861 Census, All Saints, Hereford, 2, ?brook Place

James CONSTANCE, Head, Mar, 53, Wood Turner, b. Gloucestershire, Longhope
Harriett, Wife, Mar, 41, Staffordshire, ?
Martha, Daur, 14, Scholar, Hereford
Joseph NELMES, Lodger, Mar, 30, Wood Turner, Gloucestershire, Westbury
Helen, Wife, Mar, 26, Gloucestershire, Mitcheldean
James, Son, 5m, Gloucestershire, Longhope

GR 1871 Census, Mon, Llantillio, Heald Farm

James CONSTANSE, Head, Mar, 63, Farming 35 acres, b. Longhope, Gloucester
Harriet, Wife, Mar, 51, ?, Stafford
Martha, Daur, Un, 23, All Saints, Hereford

GR 1881 Census, Glos, Taynton, Old Copple?

James CONSTANCE, Head, Mar, 70, Farmer 5 acres, b. Longhope, Gloucestershire
Harriet, Wife, Mar, 60, ?, Staffordshire

GR General Register, Deaths

First Name HARRIET
Last Name CONSTANCE
Gender Female
Year 1889
Birth Year 1820
Birth Month
Birth Day
District WESTBURY ON SEVERN
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Event Quarter 2
District Number
Page 146
Line Number 219

GR 1891 Census, Mon, Skenfrith, Walston

John JONES, Head, Mar, 41, General Labourer, b. Llangattock, Mon
Martha, Wife, Mar, 42, Hereford
William J, Son, Single, 16, Skenfrith, Mon
Reuben G, Son, 11, Ewyas Harold, Heref
Harriett E, Daur, 9, Skenfrith, Mon
Allen John, Son, 6, Skenfrith, Mon
Charles Owen, Son, 7m, Skenfrith, Mon
James CONSTANCE, Visitor, Widower, 83, Longhope, Gloucester

Martha must be the daughter of James,

GR General Register, Marriages,

First Name MARTHA
Last Name CONSTANCE
Gender Female
Year 1873
Spouse
Image Quarter 2
Country Wales
County Monmouthshire
District MONMOUTH
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 11A
Page 47
Line Number 276
Martha Constance married one of the people below:
John JONES
George BARRETT

GR General Register, Deaths

First Name JAMES
Last Name CONSTANCE
Gender Male
Year 1894
Birth Year 1808
Birth Month
Birth Day
District HEREFORD
County Herefordshire
Country England
Volume 6A
Event Quarter 4
District Number
Page 296
Line Number 362
Entry Number

GR General Register, Deaths

First Name ALFRED
Last Name CONSTANCE
Gender Male
Year 1879
Birth Year 1832
Birth Month
Birth Day
District HEREFORD
County Herefordshire
Country England
Volume 6A
Event Quarter 2
District Number
Page 364
Line Number 89
Entry Number

In November 1857 the Hereford Times reported that James CONSTANCE had been summoned for wilfully leaving his son Alfred (aged 23) chargeable to the Parish of All Saints. He said he was not able to maintain him and his son’s inability to work was the consequence of his own bad conduct. The charge was dismissed on the ground that the defendant was unable to contribute to his son’s maintenance.

In August 1856 the Hereford Times reported that Alfred CONSTANCE and a young child were charged with damaging a fire escape by swinging on it. The charge was admitted and the defendants discharged, CONSTANCE having been in custody for two days.