Mary Ann HARPER b Ruardean abt 1892, and parents. (General)
So also born abt 1892 ?. Hopefully this will tie-up with the Census data later ?
Quick look at FreeBMD gives a few Births registered to this name in the area, but not within 15 years or so of this one, so this does looks promising (always cross-check, esp as not a rare name).Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
Harper Mary Ann Westbury S. 6a 246
Now searching for Evan's wife Mary. We know she died at Newham Bottom in 1964 aged abt 72, which fits the birth above. Sadly cannot find their full Marriage Record within this site's PRs, so no clues wrt her parents etc.
GlosBMD also has the following Record, but that site's not fully working, so doesn't give the Date or Place !. FreeBMD shows they registered their marriage in the Westbury on Severn District in late 1909.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
HARPER Mary Ann Westbury S. 6a 589
TURNER Evan Westbury S. 6a 589
Searching for Mary's Baptism in this site's PRs give's this likely hit;
Record_ID: 58520
Entry_Number: 440
Year: 1891
Month: Sep
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: HARPER
Child_Forenames: Mary Ann
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: E Bailey-Churchill
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 55
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: H616
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FamilySearch site gives these good Census fits for Mary's parents;
1891; Hawkwell Row, Holy Trinity Parish, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Harper Head M 27 Coal miner. Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Harper Wife F 25 Warton, Herefordshire, England
Florence Harper Daughter F 5 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Gertrude Harper Daughter F 2 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
So Mary was born a few months after this, parents living at bottom of Ruardean Hill, as detailed in an earlier post.
There is an Old Wharton Farm near Pontshill on this 1888 map, just south of Ryford & Weston Under Penyard; think it's now holiday cottages ?
See this 1888 map, sorry I couldnt find one OS map with all these places on.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101570424
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1901; Newham Bottom, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Harper Head M 38 Coal miner. Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Annie Harper Wife F 35 Ryford, Herefordshire
Gerty Harper Daughter F 13 Pludds, Gloucestershire
Mary Harper Daughter F 9 Pludds, Gloucestershire
Richard Harper Son M 6 Pludds, Gloucestershire
Minnie Harper Daughter F 3 Pludds, Gloucestershire
Newham Bottom is the west side of Ruardean Hill towards the Pludds.
Ryeford is about 4 miles due north, near Weston under Penyard on the Ross road.
So Wm was born Ruardean abt 1864, and Annie at Ryford/Wharton nr Weston-u-Penyard abt 1866.
Ancestry;
1911; 4 Roomed Household at Newham Bottom, Ruardean Woodside, Glos
Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Years Married Occupation Birth Place Address
William Harper Head 1866 45 Male Married. Horse Worker(Under Ground) Colliery. Ruardean
Annie Harper Wife 1868 43 Female Married. 25 years, 8 children, 8 living. At Home. Hereford
Richard Harper Son 1895 16 Male Single Horse Worker(Under Ground) Colliery. Ruardean, Woodside, East Dean
Leonard Harper Son 1906 5 Male Ruardean, Woodside, East Dean
Minnie Harper Daughter 1898 13 Female Ruardean, Woodside, East Dean
Elizabeth Harper Daughter 1903 8 Female Ruardean, Woodside, East Dean
Harvey Harper Son 1909 2 Male Ruardean Woodside, East Dean
Searching this forum for prior posts shows a mention for Richard & parents;
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=15163
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Possibles ? for Mary's father William b abt 1864;
From FreeBMD;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
HARPER William Gloucester 6a 254
Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
HARPER William Henry Ross 6a 449
Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Harper William Monmouth 11a 26
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From PRs;
Record_ID: 146548
Entry_Number: 64
Year: 1866
Month: Aug
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: HARPER
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Parkend
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: Jno. Josh Elsworth Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex: H616
??
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From FamilySearch / Ancestry;
1881; 3 Grove Street, Gloucester Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Ann Harper Head F 56 Widow. Bream St. James, England
Peter I Harper Son M 22 Engin Fitter. Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Harper Daughter F 19 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Arther D Harper Son M 17 Aprentice. Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
William Harper Son M 14 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
1871; Mosley Green, West Dean, Monmouthshire, Wales.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Harper Head M 57 Blacksmith. Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Ann Harper Wife F 46 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Peter James Harper Son M 12 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Elizabeth Harper Daughter F 10 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Dew Harper Son M 7 West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Harper Son M 4 West Dean, Gloucestershire
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TO BE CONTINUED
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