I am looking for information on Barnabas Smith, baptised 20th June 1793. His mother was Elizabeth Smith, no father apparent; I think she went on to have further children, living with her son Richard at Hillersland until her death at the age of 93, she is buried with Richard at Christchurch. Barnabas is my great great grandfather, he married Sarah and they had Richard, William, George, James (my great grandfather) Edward, Timothy and Elizabeth. In 1851 they lived next door to Richard and his mother Elizabeth at Joyford, but I have no record of him before then apart from his birth. I'm not even sure of the identity of his wife Sarah. Can anyone help?

for starters

Using the Gloucestershire BMD - for the children

1851 census

Richard 14
William 12 (mother's maiden name SCRIVENS)
George 10 (mother's maiden name SCRIVENS)
James 10
Edward 6
Timothy 4 (two entries, one mother's maiden name SCRIVENS, the other WILLIAMS)
Elizabeth 1

There is a tree on Ancestry which states, Sarah WILLIAMS married (Josiah SCRIVENS - 16 August 1829 *his 2 marriages on Forest of Dean records)

and had children Amos 1830, Thomas 1832 and Anne, SCRIVENS - 1834 - then Richard SMITH 1837 etc etc

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Marriage English BICKNOR

21 March 1835

Barbabus SMITH - Bachelor, living on extraparochial land in the Hundred of St Briavels

Sarah SCRIVENS - Widow, etc etc

By Banns

Date of Banns 1835, Marc 1 8 15

both mark

Mark of James WILLIAMS, and Elizabeth BEECH *** ???

???

* A Benjamin BEACH married Elisabeth WILLIAMS - residence: Hundred of St Briavels

26 December 1818

mark of William WILLIAMS and Sarah RUDGE

1841 Census,
Newland
St Briavels

Benhamin BEACH - 60
Elizabeth BEACH - 55
William BEACH - 26
Jane BEACH - 20
Maria BEACH - 15
Eliza BEACH - 10

etc etc

1841 census - English Bicknor

Barbabus SMITH - 40
Sarah SMITH - 30
Richard SMITH - 5
William SMITH - 2
George SMITH - 10 months
Amos SCRIVENS - 11
Thomas SCRIVENS - 9
Anne SCRIVENS - 7

(just above them is Christania WILLIAMS aged 11) ?

Ancestry:

Prison Record

Barnabas SMITH - aged 33 - 27 April 1830 - occupation Labourer. (English Bicknor)

Bill : Ignoramus

Committed April 27, 1830 by Edward MACHEN Esq. charged on the oath of Richard BENNETT and William COPNER on suspicion of stealing a qty of wheat, about half a bushel, the property of the said Richard BENNETT

Dark brown hair, brown eyebrows, dark grey eyes, long face, scar on right eyebrow, a mole on the right cheek, face rather fullest on the left side.

Second finger on left hand cut off at the right first joint, cut on the second finger same hand at the second joint, scar on rt chin, scar on the cap of the same knee. Left knee has been injured and lame in consequence, a large scar on his right side too small ones a little above the large one, a mole on his neck.

Not Read.
Labourer, Height 5 ft 2/4

Trinity Sefsion July 13, 1830 Not a true bill

How behaved: Orderly

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On the 1841/1851 census

William COPNER is the Miller, at Joyford, Civil Parish: Bicknor English, Hundred of St Briavels (just a couple of pages on the census after Barnabus

Richard BENNETT is the Farmer aged 50, at Eastbach Farm House, again just a couple of pages on the census after William COPNER

Hello

We're distant relatives.... My great great grandfather is William Smith (son of Barnabas and Sarah Scrivens) - William married Emma Price and they had a few children including John Arthur who was my great grandfather. Even though his roots and family originated from the Forest of Dean, John Arthur was a Mill Superintendent for RT Mills and his family relocated to Llanelli, South Wales some time later. However when John Arthur Smith died in 1937 he was buried in Lydbrook

Would love to hear from you!

Thank you for getting in touch. It's lovely to hear from someone from my Smith family - I have worked out that we are third cousins once removed, ie my grandfather Timothy was a first cousin to your John Arthur so they may have known each other. I have changed my forum settings so you can email me direct if you would like to do that as it would be great to chat further?