Richard Jenkins of Clearwell back from the dead in 1839?

Peter was baptised 24th 1838. His mother Susannah declares herself as a widow of Richard. ref 115607 - 152 Same for his sister Esther 115608 - 153

I believe Wood bap 8th March 1840 ref 115641 - 186 is a sibling of Peter (Richard and Susan are also the parents of Wood)

I believe the father of Peter, Esther, and Wood is the same Richard Jenkins who died in 1868.

Are there two Richard Jenkins married to Susan and living in Newland at the same time?

Any Help is appreciated

Regards

Tony Jenkins

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Year: 1802
Month: May
Day: 27

Groom Surname: JENKINS
Groom Forenames: Peter
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: St Briavels Hundred
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:

Bride Surname: WOOD
Bride Forenames: Esther
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: St Briavells Hundred
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: He marks she signs
Witness 1: Mark of John Jenkins
Witness 2: Thomas Bond
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: T Brown Simpson cur
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page No: 38
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Year: 1809
Month: Apr
Day: 30
Parents Surname: JENKINS
Child Forenames: Richard
Father's Forenames: Peter
Mother's Forenames: Esther
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ellwood
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page No: 37
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1841 Clearwell
Peter Jenkins abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire Stonecutter
Esther Jenkins abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Esther Jenkins abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

1851
Peter Jenkins abt 1779 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Ester Jenkins abt 1783 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1833 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1841 Clearwell
Richard Jenkins abt 1809 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire Stonecutter
Susan Jenkins abt 1808 Newland, Gloucestershire
Esther Jenkins abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Peter Jenkins abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Wood Jenkins abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

as transcribed for 1851 !

1851
Richard Lenherr abt 1809 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Iusemuch Lenherr abt 1807 Cwmcarvan, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Allie Lenherr abt 1848 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Ester Lenherr abt 1839 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Lenherr abt 1846 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Lenherr abt 1844 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Peter Lenherr abt 1839 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Susannah Lenherr abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Walter Lenherr abt 1835 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Wood Lenherr abt 1840 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
John Hardwick abt 1815 Welbury, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Newland, Gloucestershire

1861
Richard Jenkins abt 1809 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Susannah Jenkins abt 1807 Cwmcarvan, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Fanny Jenkins abt 1853 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Jenkins abt 1843 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Alfred Reece abt 1861 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire

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This might hint at the "Stonecutter Widow" note on his childrens Baptism's i.e. Richard was a Widow Stonecutter , not Susanna

Year: 1831
Month: Feb
Day: 8

Groom Surname: JENKINS
Groom Forenames: Richard
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Newland
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:

Bride Surname: BIRT
Bride Forenames: Mary
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Newland
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:

Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: James Jenkins
Witness 2: Sarah Jones
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: H. Douglas Vicar
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page No: 234
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Year: 1831
Month: Aug
Day: 13
Surname: JENKINS
Forenames: Mary
Place of Residence: Clearwell
Age at death: 31 Y[ea]rs
Officiating Minister: G Ridout Off[iciatin]g Min[iste]r
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda: Wife of Richard
Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/16
Page No: 164
Parish_Chapel: Newland

Did he marry Susan from Cwmcarvan nr Monmouth or were they living as "man and wife" ? This appears to answer that question

Name: Susannah Jenkins
Name: Richard Jenkins
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 73

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Cwmcarvan Baptism

1808 20 Sept
Susanna
d/o Walter & Elizabeth Jenkins

< Walter a name used later in family - 1851>

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Slowhands

Thanks for clearing up the problem and even more so for finding Mary Birt (Richards first wife) I had no idea.

Richard and Sussannah had a daughter in 1845 Mary probably named after Richard's first wife. I believe Alfred Reece (1861 census) is the base born of Mary, Richard and Sussannah's daughter.

I cannot find a marriage or subsequent death for Mary.

Once again thanks for your help.

Kind Regards

Tony

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Record_ID: 116242
Entry Number: 787
Year: 1864
Month: Jul
Day: 6
Parents Surname: JENKINS
Child Forenames: Richard Alfred Reece
Father's Forenames: [not stated]
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating Minister: H. L. Parry Incumbent
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: 8811
Page No: 99
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: J525

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Thanks Chris

I am still searching for the marriage, or death of Mary.

Regards

Tony

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So am I tony, so am I! Looks like she was born a couple of years earlier than you thought?

Record_ID: 115704
Entry Number: 249
Year: 1843
Month: Apr
Day: 23
Parents Surname: JENKINS
Child Forenames: Mary
Father's Forenames: Richard
Mother's Forenames: Susan
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Clearwell
Occupation: Quarry Man
Officiating Minister: T. R. Garnsey Off[iciating] Min[ister]
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: 8811
Page No: 32
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell
Soundex: J525

Sister Fanny Jenkins c1853 also seems to have disappeared.

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Chris

I am guessing but have found a Alfred Jenkins working as a groom, aged 7, in the 1871 census, for the vicar of Christchurch (Monmouthshire).

Also residence is a Mary Mathews aged 26.

Ages are right!

Could this be the Mary and Alfred I am looking for?

Regards

Tony

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That's interesting Tony, but I can't find a Mathews/Jenkins marriage on BMD 1860-1871.

Chris

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This could be the Alfred Jenkins in Christchurch:

Births Sep 1864 (>99%)
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JENKINS Alfred William Monmouth 11a 17

Don't forget yours was actually named Richard Alfred Reece Jenkins!

Regards
Chris

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Hi Chris

Because his grandfather Richard was still alive we believe he was called Alfred within the Family and so recorded in the 71 census.

Tony

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I have been trying to reach you via e-mail as I believe my G.Grandmother was the Mary Jenkins you are looking for.
It will be too difficult to explain my evidence on here but I do need some advice before posting my findings.
Would you or some-one with interest in this family please contact me via my e-mail address please.
Many thanks

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I am now sure that Mary Jenkins was my Great Grandmother.
She married Thomas Ainsworth in London and although Thomas is at home in Marylebone on the 1871 census Mary is missing. I have found her visiting her Mother Susannah in Clearwell, she has a 1 year old baby 'Kate' with her who was born in Marylebone.
'Kate' was Catherine Esther Ainsworth born 19th March 1870 in Marylebone. The baby died the following year in 1872.
On her marriage certificate to Thomas Ainsworth in 1868 Mary has stated that her Father was Richard Jenkins a Stone cutter, A further clue was that on the 1871 census when Thomas was at their home in Marylebone there is a Fred Williams staying with them as a boarder, his place of birth was Clearwell Gloucester.

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I have found a Richard Jenkins son of Issac born 1810, Living in Ellwood

I believe my Richard is the SO Peter and Esther Bap 1809, but am confused as to which Richard married Mary Birt as both are possible.

Any suggestions please.

Regards

Tony Jenkins

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