Hi beajaytee,Sorry to but in on your email to kiwi on F.o.d.But i am related to Joseph,he is my gt,gt,gt.Grand-father. I would appear on the George Elsmore`s side.I may shortly be able to answer your question and more it, always appears a buggers muddle,when trying to complete a family tree.Has Cathi nz told you about me.Ivan