Roll of Honour (General)
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 12, 2008, 01:50 (5898 days ago)
a thread to collate the fallen,< and in some cases those fortunate to return >
< work in progress>
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Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 part 2
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 12, 2008, 01:51 (5898 days ago) @ slowhands
Frank Malsom, 316 & 203142, Herefordshire Regiment & Royal Berks, Dardanelles, 1915.
Luther Marshall, 2574, Hereford Regiment, 72836, Machine Gun Corps, killed in action March 24, 1918, served France and Flanders, Arras Memorial, born Ruardean.
Edward Matthews, 20, 235666,1st Herefordshire Regiment, killed in action November 6, 1917, Palestine.
Henry Matthews, 698, Hereford Regiment, 244722, South Wales Borders, lived in Morse, Dardanelles, 1915, Silver War Badge.
William Medcroft, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Will Meadows, Herefordshire Regiment, died during war.
Edward James Meek, 22, 1473, Cpl Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915, killed in action November 6, 1917, Palestine, lived the Pound, Ruardean.
Lewis Robert Meek, 320, Cpl 1st Battalion Herefordshire Regiment, died September 2, 1917, son of Edward and Sarah Meek, war grave.
Lonal James Meek, 25, 27785, 11th Border Regiment, killed November 18, 1916, Beaumont Hamel, France.
Tom Miles, 32, 237036, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles 1915, later died of wounds, war grave, Ruardean.
Herbert Nelmes, Pte PS 2612, Middlesex 16th Battalion Duke of Cambridge Own, killed in action July 1, 1916, served France and Flanders, born Ruardean.
Jack Nelmes, Cinderhill, Ruardean, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Len Nelmes, West End, Ruardean, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Lewis Pratt, Pte 8411, 1st Battalion, Shropshire Light Infantry, killed in action October 24, 1914, served France and Flanders, born Ruardean.
Frank Smith, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
George Stanley Thompson, 20, 12253 L/Cpl 6th Battalion Royal Berkshire Regiment, killed March 29, 1916, in France.
Milsom Vaughan, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Herbert Thomas Walding, Pte T4/311588 Royal Army Service Corps, died October 25, 1918, born Ruardean.
Albert W Watkins, Pte Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipolil Dardanelles, and Battle of Gaza, Palestine, where severely wounded, born Ruardean.
Roy Weaver, Sgt 326 Herefordshire Regiment, discharged 1916 as CSM, Gallipoli Dardanelles, suffered frost bite.
William John Weaver, Pte 38004, Glosters, killed in action Roye, France, by bomb from enemy aircraft, March 23, 1918, enlisted Sparkbrook, Birmingham, recorded Co-operative Memorial, served Flanders, born Ruardean
Albert Ernest Wilks, 22, Herefordshire Regiment, later 1st Battalion South Wales Borders, wounded and died October 22, 1918, of Ruardean.
Charles Ernest Wheeler, 2655, enlisted at 16 in 1914, Herefordshire Regiment, too young for action, transferred at 18, 42177, 10th South Wales Borders,
killed aged 20, August 1, 1917 buried Ypres, Flanders.
William Henry Wheeler, 2654, Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipoli, Dardanelles 1915, and Palestine 1917, won Military Medal at Battle of Gaza.
Alfred E Wood, 1152, Herefordshire Regiment, of Crossways, Ruardean, Dardanelles, 1915, Palestine 1917, retained bullet that wounded him, possibly to age of 100.
George Worgan, 18049, Glosters, Silver War Badge, wounded and blinded during Battle of Ypres, January 9, 1917.
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Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 part 2
by pamclark , Saturday, December 13, 2008, 05:07 (5897 days ago) @ slowhands
Do you by any chance have any idea who the parents of Frank Malsom 316 & 203142 were? Also I tried looking Frank up on the CWGC site but cannot find him there, any idea why?
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 part 2
by HarryBrook , Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:07 (5894 days ago) @ pamclark
Frank MALSOM Pte.316 Herefordshire Regt.,Pte.203142 Royal Berks. Regt. I believe he was the son of Frederick and Alice MALSOM, High Street, Ruardean. The 1881 census records Frank, 11 months old.
The Roll of Honour will include all those from Ruardean who served. In the finished Roll I understand the names of those who died will probably be printed in red, and those who returned in black. It is still being compiled. Frank Malsom was not among the Fallen.
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 part 2
by pamclark , Monday, December 15, 2008, 20:13 (5894 days ago) @ HarryBrook
Many thanks for your help I have replied to your E-mail address.
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW2
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 12, 2008, 01:52 (5898 days ago) @ slowhands
Second World War:
William Roger Bennett, R249229 Marconi Man, Merchant Marine, Special Ops for Liberation of Europe, torpedoed on the tanker Javanese Prince, May 20, 1941.
Gerald Brain, Royal Service Corps, India and Far East, 1944-47.
Leslie Joseph Brain, 25, Gunner 1533866, Royal Artillery, April 1943, War Grave.
Ronald J Brain, 30, 14745159, Royal Army Ordnance Corps, 1946, War Grave.
River Jordon Davis, wounded June 1940, 5th Glosters in the British Expedition Force, Dunkirk.
Stanley William Edward Davies, 28, 6028580 Suffolk Regiment 4th Battalion, died June 30, 1943, possibly Chungkai War Cemetery.
Geoffrey Howard Duberley, 36, Cpl 7523598 Royal Army Medical Corps, 63 Field Hygiene Section, died March 12, 1944, Johannesburg Cemetery.
Hubert Evans, 1409929 Leading Aircraftman, RAF, 1941-46, served abroad in various countries, born The Pludds.
Allen Fisher, Gunner Royal Navy J105686, Able Seaman on HMS Impregnable, aboard HMS Rodney during sinking of Bismarck, May 27, 1941.
John Cornelius Gardiner, Gunner 1534021, Royal Artillery, 1939-46, served France, Holland and El Alamein.
Reginald George Gardiner, Gunner 1097302, Royal Artillery, motor transport communications dispatch rider, 1939-45.
Merrick George, Capt, Tank Corps.
Harold Hale, Dorset Regiment.
Merlin Hale, 10th Glosters.
Ben Harper, prisoner of war, Tobruk, Libya, June 2, 1942.
Arthur Ronald Jones, Maj, Royal Artillery.
Hector Jones, Royal Flying Corps First World War, RAF in Second World War.
Henry Daniel John Jones, Cpl, Royal Veterinary Corps and Military Police, restricted airfield construction 1941-45 then Germany.
Bruce Knight, RAF, India.
Donald Merrick Knight, 20, 14518940, Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry, killed in action July 1,1944, St Manvieu Cemetery, Cheux.
William Knight, Leading Aircraftsman, RAF, 1939-45.
Garth Miles, REME, 1940-45.
Douglas Robert John Pritchard, 2017293 Royal Engineers, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Italy France and Holland, 1940-46.
Arthur Robinson, RAF, escaped from Singapore.
William Isaac Robinson, 923366, RAF, Service Medal, 1939-45.
Sidney Reid, Pte 5186744, 1st Glosters, fought Japanese during their retreat from Mingaladon close to Rangoon, Burma, to Assam and India.
Nimrod Stephens, Guardsman 2665795 Coldstream Guards, died October 7, 1944, Faenza War Cemetery, lived Highbeech, Ruardean.
Robert John Williams, Seaman JX 326133, March 18, 1942 to June 1946, HMS Eland, Cinderhill House, Ruardean
Ralph Thomas Roy Watkins, Trooper 14248076, Royal Armoured Corps 108th 1/5 Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers, killed in action.
Luke Alfred Wilce, 14610140, 1/5 Welch Regiment, killed in action August 12, 1944, buried Banneville-La-Campagne.
Albert Edward Wilks, Sapper 2132323, Royal Engineers, 756 Field Company, killed in action.
Wilfred Yemm, Shropshire Light Infantry.
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Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW2
My grandfather is listed here, how do I find out more information? Thank
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW2
by probinson , S. Oxon, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 18:05 (2524 days ago) @ Cally73
This list originally appeared on a website though I can't find it anymore. It was compiled, I believe, by Andrew Gardiner who was, at the time, a member of the FoD District Council. I contacted him back in 2013 as my father and uncle are on the list and I wondered where the information came from. Andrew wasn't able to tell me much other than the information came from an individual who he assumed knew my father. I never quite understood the point of the list.
If you're looking for more information on your grandfather's service record then there are places where that can be obtained though it depends on what service he was in. There's also others on this site who can probably tell you more than I can if you give some more information about who your grandfather was.
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section, War Memorials
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 21:06 (2524 days ago) @ probinson
I contacted him back in 2013 as my father and uncle are on the list and I wondered where the information came from. Andrew wasn't able to tell me much other than the information came from an individual who he assumed knew my father.
This thread was active a year or so before I joined the forum, I hadn't seen it before today, so many thanks Cally for the heads-up as my father's line are from the Ruardean side of the Forest.
On first reading this post I assumed that this Ruardean Roll was one of the many that was prepared by local Councils and such like soon after WW1, often while preparing a public memorial plaque or statue.
However I now see it includes names from WW2, which probably isn't your grandfather Cally but if it is then he would be more difficult to research online.
Sadly Slowhands doesn't appear to be around this forum any more? I got the impression from his posts that he was from, or had close ties with, the Ruardean area; could this Roll have been a project he was associated with ?. I then saw the post from Harry Brook, who I think confirms it is indeed a recent "work-in-progress" project, albeit probably referencing back to older memorials and such like. Hopefully Harry will be able to tell us more when he's next on the forum.
Fao PR Robinson; without wishing to pry, do I assume from your comment that this Roll contains details that wouldn't normally be available from a public Memorial, or other online sources ?. I presume you have researched your father and uncle to some degree, which are presumably WW2 records hence trickier to research, but if you need help please do ask. That said as I'm sure you know old newspapers often give information about Prisoners of War and suchlike.
I say this assuming that Ruardean does have a Memorial of WW1 vintage, but I don't know any details. A quick search online reminds me that Ruardean has a "War Memorial Hall", but I have no idea what plaque or suchlike it may contain.
There are Memorial Plaques within Ruardean Church, but sadly this site doesn't list the names.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/35711
https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/35712
There are six CWGC graves at Ruardean Church.
https://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/38580/ruardean-(st.-john-the-baptist)-chu...
Sadly this list which I found a few years ago when researching Cinderford's Memorial has no reference to Ruardean...
http://www.memorialtranscripts.co.uk/Compressed/gloucestershire_ww1.html
Searching this forum hasn't helped either altho' it has led me to find this excellent post about Ralph Howells of Ruardean, who is on Part 1 of the Roll.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?id=45000
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW2
by probinson , S. Oxon, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 21:56 (2524 days ago) @ Jefff
Fao PR Robinson; without wishing to pry, do I assume from your comment that this Roll contains details that wouldn't normally be available from a public Memorial, or other online sources. (I presume you have researched your father and uncle to some degree, which are presumably WW2 records hence trickier to research, That said old newspapers often give information about Prisoners of War and suchlike).
Hi Jeff,
My father and uncle were in the RAF in WW2. Neither died or, as far as I'm aware, were wounded. Hence why I'm not sure what the object of this list is or was. Other than a list of people from the Ruardean area that fought in one or the other wars. It could, at worst, be misleading.
As far as finding information about people who fought in the war, service records are available, though possibly restricted to some extent. I keep meaning to obtain my father's. It's a fairly straight forward procedure as far as I recall when I looked into it. I think you maybe have to prove your relationship though so not just anybody could obtain it. But if Cally wants more information on a relative who fought in the war, it should be possible to obtain their service record - which is what I was suggesting.
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW2
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Thursday, March 08, 2018, 22:14 (2524 days ago) @ probinson
Hi Jeff,
My father and uncle were in the RAF in WW2. Neither died or, as far as I'm aware, were wounded. Hence why I'm not sure what the object of this list is or was. Other than a list of people from the Ruardean area that fought in one or the other wars. It could, at worst, be misleading.
As far as finding information about people who fought in the war, service records are available, though possibly restricted to some extent. I keep meaning to obtain my father's. It's a fairly straight forward procedure as far as I recall when I looked into it. I think you maybe have to prove your relationship though so not just anybody could obtain it. But if Cally wants more information on a relative who fought in the war, it should be possible to obtain their service record - which is what I was suggesting.
Hi PR,
I think the object is to publically recognise, thank, commemorate, all those who "served their country" as they say. I've seen many examples of public rolls such as this, and personally I believe they are worthwhile, altho' obviously such views are entirely personal.
eg http://www.longhopevillage.co.uk/History/WorldWar1/
But yes, I think some clarity on it's purpose could be useful.
Yes, as I understand it, researching official service records from WW2 are more difficult: you must apply to the Ministry of Defence, must be directly related to the serviceman or woman being researched, and must expect it to be costly and also time-consuming. Certainly far harder than researching WW1 online etc, altho more and more WW2 records are becoming available. I've never tried to research via the MoD, but I do recall a few years ago reading about these enquiries taking several months, partly due to Defence spending cutbacks hence less staff to respond to enquiries. Hopefully things have changed now, and for the better. I have tried a little online research into my Uncle who was a P.O.W. in Burma, but not much luck there, not least as the Japanese didn't keep great records plus I don't think the Red Cross were involved anything like so much as in European theatre.
Ref your RAF ancestors, this is already quite "old" but MIGHT still be helpful
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/military/second-world-war-raf-ance...
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/research-enquiries/useful-links.aspx
I can strongly recommend all the books in this publisher's series, luckily for me our local public library is the main one for our London Borough so carries most if not all of them. These are just some of those from their specia-list military historian.
https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Phil-Tomaselli/a/799
Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 Part1
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 12, 2008, 01:53 (5898 days ago) @ slowhands
First World War:
John Thomas Arkell, 21, 10th Glosters, killed Battle of Loos, Flanders, September 25, 1915.
George Bartlett, recorded on family tombstone, St John's Church, Ruardean.
Harold Bishop, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
George Bowers, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Christopher Brain, won Military Medal, Battle of Gaza, Palestine, 1917.
John Edward Bennett Brain, 22, 1st/1st Royal Gloucester Hussars, Angora Turkey 1916, originally of Ruardean and Brierley.
Francis Starkie Clayton, Admiral, Royal Navy.
Ralph Ryall Clayton, (name on tombstone is Lyall, not Ryall), 31, son of Admiral Clayton, Wyelands, Ruardean, Lieut Commander, killed on battle cruiser Queen Mary, May 31, 1916, at the Battle of Jutland.
Charles Henry Corbett, Pte 48044 Worcestershire Regiment, killed in action, November 30, 1917, served France and Flanders, Cambria Memorial, born Ruardean, son of George and Bertha Corbett, later married, Mutlow-Perlieu Cottage.
Harry Dance, Sapper Royal Engineers, WR/319077, water transport, died July 9, 1918, born Ruardean.
Arthur (Shatters) Davies, possibly AW Davies, 2876, of Lydbrook and Ruardean at Turners Tump on Herefordshire Regiment list, grandfather of Robert Jenkins.
George Davies, 2661 and 235853, Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipoli, lived in Trafalgar, near Ruardean.
Stanley Davies, 2684 and 235857, The Redding's, Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipoli, 1915.
John Drean/Dwan, 1487 and 235288, Caudle House, Ruardean, Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipoli, 1915.
Stanley Duberley, 3060 and 236037, Herefordshire Regiment, Gallipoli, 1915 and Palestine, 1917.
William George Gardiner, 298, 41, Herefordshire Regiment, WO/CSM, Gallipoli, Sulva Bay landing, August 9, 1915, severely wounded while leading an attack on Chocolate Hill (Yilghin Burna), Silver Badge, Alexandria Hospital,1915.
William G Gardiner, 1385 and 335246, Hereford Regiment, Gallipoli, Silver Badge.
George Gibbs, prisoner of war, Walkers Lane.
Albert Henry Hale, 722581, 42, 3/24th London Regiment, killed in action, France, August 25, 1917, son of Isaac and Elizabeth, Ruardean.
Ernest Hatch, 1208 and 235147, Herefordshire Regiment, Dardanelles, 1915.
Ralph John Howells, 18, 5th Cheshire Regiment, killed in action, Somme, September 8, 1916.
George H Hussey, 35, Cpl in 1st Worcester Regiment , South Wales Borders & Welsh Regiment, wounded France in June, died London, buried Lydbrook 1917.
Herbert Edward Jones, Pte 15966 Lancashire Fusiliers 18th Battalion, served France and Flanders, won Military Medal, died of wounds August 1, 1918, born Ruardean.
Isaiah Lane, Cpl 38437 and 236448, won Military Medal, possibly Silver War Badge, Herefordshire Regiment, possibly Gallipoli, Eqypt and Palestine, December 1915.
Harding Lugg, Royal Flying Corp.
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Roll of Honour - Ruardean section WW1 Part1
by djones , Rhondda Valley, Glamorgan, Friday, December 12, 2008, 02:01 (5898 days ago) @ slowhands
Great work, thanks.
There are quite a few MEEK there.
Regards
David
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Roll of Honour - Ruardean section - Korea
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 12, 2008, 01:59 (5898 days ago) @ slowhands
Korean War:
David Albert Gardiner, Pte 22345661, Glosters, volunteer in Korea, on Castle Hill and Gloster Hill during Battle of Imjin River, awarded the American Presidential Citation for actions April 22-25, 1951, prisoner of war until August 1953.
Brian Freeman, Ruardean and Woodside.
Lawrence Alfred George Wilce, Malaya and North Borneo, 1948-62.
Trevor John Jones, Sapper 23545982, Royal Engineers, Malaya, Butterworth and Borneo, Kinablu, 1958-1964.
Thomas Morgan, Pte 22118529, King's Own Yorkshire Infantry, served Malaya Emergency 1949-50, Tower House, Bishopswood.
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