I am really hoping someone can help me as I am now totally at a loss with this one!

My 2x g.grandmother was Elizabeth Ward Meek. In her marriage certificate to Thomas Rudge on 19.08.1856 it states the witnesses were Charles and Eliza Maria Meek. Her father is given as Thomas Meek a bailiff.

I cannot find Elizabeth Ward Meek anywhere whatsoever! Please can someone help.

She apparently gave birth to my g.grandmother Martha (Alice) Meek in December quarter 1856.

Thank you and a very happy Christmas to everyone.

< another MEEK mystery to untangle !>

my starter for ten...

Year: 1830
Month: Jun
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J. Chell
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 103
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

looking to tie into

1841 Ruardean Hill
Chas Meek abt 1795 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Meek abt 1799 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Arsula Ann Meek abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Meek abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Maria Meek abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jane Meek abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Meek abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Chas Anwitas [ANWIL?] abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
Charles Meck abt 1796 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Meck abt 1799 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles A R Meck abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Meck abt 1831 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza M Meck abt 1834 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Janes Meck abt 1825 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda C Meck abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Ruardean Hill nr Chapel
Charles Meck abt 1801 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Meck abt 1799 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Meck abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John C Rudge abt 1858 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1856
Month: Aug
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: RUDGE
Grooms_Forenames: Tho[ma]s
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Grocer
Grooms_Residence: Morse**
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Rudge
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Grocer
Brides_Surname: MEEK
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth Ward
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Mitcheldean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Meek
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Tho[ma]s
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Bailiff
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He Sign She Mark
Witness_1: Charles Meek
Witness_2: Eliza Maria Meek
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry G. Nicholls
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Mr. Thomas Rudges place of Residence at the time of marriage ought to have been written Mitcheldean and Elizabeth Ward Meeks place of residence at the time of marriage to have been witten Morse** - Correctedly - the Clerk of Magistrar of Aug. 19 1856
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 88
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1861 High St
Thomas Rudge abt 1830 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Rudge abt 1832 Morse Grddenan, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Mary C Rudge abt 1859 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Triphena Marfell abt 1846 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

Year 1857
Month May
Day 10
Parents Surname RUDGE
Child Forenames John Charles
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Micheldean [sic]
Occupation Grocer
Officiating Minister E Machen Rector
Event Baptism
Memoranda [Son of]
Notes
Register Reference P220 IN 1/4
Page Number 9
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean

Year 1862
Month Jan
Day 12
Parents Surname RUDGE
Child Forenames Elisabeth / Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Elisabeth / Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Mitcheldean
Occupation Grocer
Officiating Minister C E Dighton Rector
Event Baptism
Memoranda [Daughter of]
Notes [1862 noted in margin
Register Reference P220 IN 1/4
Page Number 19
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean

Year 1870
Month Jun
Day 26
Parents Surname RUDGE
Child Forenames William [son of]
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Micheldean [sic]
Occupation Grocer
Officiating Minister [baptized by Wellby]
Event Baptism
Memoranda [from notebook kept by T Powell Clerk on his own account. ?? Hardy. May 17th 1881]
Notes entry had been added to bottom of page written in full.
Register Reference
Page Number 40
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thank you for your help Slowhands, I had spotted that one but was confused by the fact that on the marriage certificate the father was given as Thomas?

Best regards

The witnesses are children of Charles and Mary ( 98% confident !)

An explanation is that Thomas was the bio father , but that she was brought up as a child of Charles and Mary. So is Thomas a brother to Charles ? and where did he go ?

Year: 1795
Month: Apr
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thank you again. That was the conclusion I had come to, but have not a clue where he went or whom the mother was! (good guess he could not have done it on his own!!) I know it was common with the Meeks to have another family member bring up usually the eldest (this happened to my mother).

Do you (in your wisdom) know whom the father of George was?

You have no idea how grateful I am for your input. Best wishes

Here is a Joseph MEEK of nearby LEA, - probably of the same generation as Thomas who ends up as a Farm Bailiff in 1861

Year: 1805
Month: May
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: MEEK
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG68/2
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Lea

1861 Lanes Farm Aston Ingham
Joseph Meek - Head - Mar - 57 - Farm Bailiff - Glostersh Lea
Sarah Meek - Wife - Mar - 45 - Herefordsh Aston Ingham
Thomas Meek - Son - Un - 17 - Agr Lab - Herefordsh Aston Ingham
Joseph Meek - Son - 13 - Agr Lab - Herefordsh Aston Ingham
Amelia Meek - Daur - 9 - Herefordsh Aston Ingham
Charles Meek - Son - 4 - Herefordsh Brampton Abbots
Henry Meek - Son - 1 - Herefordsh Ross

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

I am not too sure where to go with this one. Do you think he was also the son of George Meek and Elizabeth Wheatstone? Thank you.

could well be the son of George and Elizabeth { guess that George is born about 1740 ish)

PS

did you see the 1861 census for Charles and Marywith Elizabeth's son as grandson

1861
Charles Meck abt 1801 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Meck abt 1799 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rhoda Meck abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John C Rudge abt 1858 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thank you, yes had picked up John Charles Rudge baptised 10.05.1857.

Would you have any idea how I can find out more about the family of George and Elizabeth? I was sort of hoping(!) I could have picked up a Thomas brother of Charles but think I may have to carry on with Charles and Mary Baldwin.

Regards

I think I'm starting to get the links ....

Year: 1823
Month: Apr
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: MEEK
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: [not
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: BALDWIN
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Mark of William Baldwin
Witness_2: Mark of Hannah Smart
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin A M Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Year: 1837
Month: May
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: RUDGE
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: [not
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: MEEK
Brides_Forenames: Abia
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: [illegible] Rudge
Witness_2: Elizabeth Meek
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Biss[illegible] Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: both of the Hundred of St Briavels
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 40
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell

1851
Thomas Rudge abt 1809 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Abia Rudge abt 1813 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Rudge abt 1836 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Joseph Rudge abt 1838 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

Name: Martha Meek
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 378

1861 Morse Lane
Thomas Rudge abt 1809 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Bea Rudge abt 1814 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Martha Meek abt 1857 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Cant thank you enough Slowhands, you have worked your magic again!
It was funny because after contacting you last night I found the marriage of Abia Meek and Thomas Rudge and decided to look into this more today.

A BIG thank you. Best regards