Where is Thomas Morse b1808 Blakeney Hill area

Chrissie needs some help please!

Thomas Morse b1808 Blakeney Hill/Viney Hill area.
First child of George Morse & Ann Clark.

I have a possible marriage?

Record_ID: 1022
Entry_Number: 238
Year: 1834
Month: Aug
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: MORSE
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: Forest of Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: CADOGAN
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Awre
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of Ann [?]
Witness_2: Charles Fennell
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J. H. Malpas Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P30 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 80
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Soundex_Groom: M620
Soundex_Bride: C325

He isn't on the 1841 Forest Index; I can't find a burial, and he isn't mentioned in his father's Will of 1839.

Where'd he go??

Thanks

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a contender, given the "rounding" in adult ages and living close to Blakeney Hill

1841 Brains Green
Thomas Morse abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Morse abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

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Aha! I shall get my spade out and start digging!

Thankyou

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careful with that spade

there is a Mary Morse who has crossed the Atlantic by 1850...... < still looking for Tom >

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Now if they did emigrate it would explain why George didn't leave him anything in his Will wouldn't it?

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Did we ever discover what happened to Thomas MORSE, c. 1808? Another family link to the Cadogan's . . .

Was reviewing Harriett CLARKE's will today, and it would appear that George MORSE and Ann(e)nee CLARKE had more children that aren't mentioned in Harriett's will. She also doesn't mention some of brother William (CLARKE)'s children, and doesn't mention any of brother Thomas' children by name (but includes the three youngest sons . . .)

Died, emigrated, established on their own or just not viewed favourably?

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No I still haven't found out what happened to Thomas!

George Morse & Ann Clarke appear to have had the following children:

Thomas born on 17th June 1808
Eliza born on 17 January 1810
Charles born on the 2nd August 1812

(The above all give Ann Clark as mother on Baptism Records. Baptisms for other children only state George & Ann).

Mary born 1815 but only survived three days
William born 1816 (No Baptism found for William)
Ann born in 1817
George junior arrived in 1822
Another Thomas appears in 1825 but only survived one month
Richard born in 1829 only survived for six weeks

In George Morse's Will the only children he leaves bequests to are Eliza, Charles, William & Ann.

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Hi, Chris.

Ann's family as stipulated in "Auntie Harriett's" will:

George Morse & his wife Amelia
Charles Morse
William Morse
Eliza Morse
Ann wife of Thomas Herbert

If Thomas, b.1808 survived, perhaps the second Thomas belonged to a different George & Ann?

Harriett's will has proved to be helpful in sorting out various siblings -- like ones with subsequent marriages . . .

Do you have the marriage info for George & Ann? I don't think I have it.

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Hi, Chris.

Ann's family as stipulated in "Auntie Harriett's" will:

George Morse & his wife Amelia
Charles Morse
William Morse
Eliza Morse
Ann wife of Thomas Herbert

If Thomas, b.1808 survived, perhaps the second Thomas belonged to a different George & Ann?

Harriett's will has proved to be helpful in sorting out various siblings -- like ones with subsequent marriages . . .

Do you have the marriage info for George & Ann? I don't think I have it.

a possible local marriage

Year: 1807
Month: Dec
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: MORSE
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MORRIS
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Morris
Witness_2: Susanah Wickenden
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Jones curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Tuesday
Notes: Not in BTs
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 135
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

<><><><>< then the CLARK reference

Year 1808
Month Jul
Day 17
Parents Surname MORSE
Child Forenames Thomas
Fathers Forenames George
Mothers Forenames Anne
Mothers Surname nee](Clark Spinste]r)
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Charles Sandiford Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda [1]S[on] [2]b[or]n June 17
Notes Blakeney Chapel
Register Reference P30 1 IN 1 Part 2
Page Number 570
Parish Chapel Awre

Year 1815
Month Feb
Day 5
Parents Surname MORSE
Child Forenames Mary
Fathers Forenames George
Mothers Forenames Anne
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean extraparochial
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Charles Sandiford Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P50 IN1/1
Page Number 12
Parish Chapel Blakeney

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Mentioned this marriage in my previous reply - see link

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=39414

Children of Henry & Elizabeth STEPHENS at Lydney

Susannah - 1752
Henry - 1753 - married a Sarah EVANS at Lydney - 23 April 1782 - witnesses William GARLAND/William DAVIS
William - 1755 - mentioned in his brother Will 1800
Anne - 1757 - married John WICKENDEN by Licence at Awre - 9 April 1777 - witnesses : Henry STEPHENS, William DAVIS
Elizabeth - 1759 - married Thomas MORRIS, their daughter mentioned in Henry STEPHENS Will - 1793
(Elizabeth Burial ? 19 May 1822 at Lydney age 63 years = c1759)

Children of Thomas & Elizabeth MORRIS at Lydney

Elizabeth 1782
Anne 1784
Sarah 1786
William 1787
Thomas 1790
Jane 1791

Quote from Henry STEPHENS of Lydney Will 7 February 1793 - only Elizabeth was born before Henry's death - yet to find Thomas & Elizabeth (nee STEPHENS) marriage

'I give and Devise my said Household premises subject as aforesaid unto my two Daughter Ann WIGGINGTON (WICKENDEN can be transcribed as this) - and Elizabeth MORRIS equally to be divided Between them share and share alike. I give Device and Bequeath unto my Grand Daughter Elizabeth MORRIS and to her Heirs and Afsizes for... all that piece of waste land situte at Yorkley Lane in the said County of Gloucester which I lately purchased off John KEARE?

and later on.....

and with my Daughter Elizabeth now the wife of Thomas MORRIS of Rofles Hill, Collier ....... and later on gives his Grandaughter Elizabeth MORRIS two sheep and all singular Farming Stock.... Hay Implements .......'

I have typed it out, but not well enough to put on this website, as the photocopy at the 'edges' is quite black

- The Eldest Son Henry STEPHENS' Will 24 January 1800.

''I give and bequeath in equal parts unto my brother William STEPHENS and my Sisters Ann WICKENDEN and Elizabeth MORRIS share and share alike, but in case of either of their deaths to their children (His Wife Sarah was childless)'

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So, we have two George/Ann Morse combinations in Blakeney at the same time? Clarke and Morris? Chris W has done more research onto this line than I have -- it's her direct line . . . Some of the records state Ann Clarke specifically as the mother, rather than Ann Morris, and Harriett's will, and George Morse's will also outline the Clarke/Morse children, it's just a matter of untangling the two . . .

Are the two George Morse's related -- cousins perhaps? I wish the Rev. Morse had recorded more info into the registers.

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"Do you have the marriage info for George & Ann? I don't think I have it".

This is the only likely marriage to come to light so far!

George MORSE married Ann CLARK by Banns at St James, Bristol on 27th January 1807.

Witnesses were Thomas CLARK & Elizabeth CLARK.

I have a copy of the register entry.

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That makes perfect sense within the time frame. Even the witnesses make sense. Wonder why they married in Bristol? My Somerset gg grandparents also married in Bristol, throwing me off by not marrying in their home parish of Batcombe.

I don't have my notes with me at the moment but I'm going to try to graph this out again later.

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