Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook (General)
This is my first posting to this site and have been interested in the threads over the last few days relating to 'The Priory' and 'Frederick Probert drawing' the inquest on William and Thomas Proberts Will. As Probert was my mothers maiden name. I have been gathering info on the family and seeing these threads I decided to post something myself.
My Grandfather was Henry Milson Probert born 1868 Osbaston Mon. He married a Mary Jane Ritching/Riching in 1898 Cardiff. They lived in Ross on Wye where my mother was born and he died in 1925 and is buried in St Marys church. My Grandmother died 1950 in Ross.
His father was Henry Probert born 1823 in Lydbrook. He married a Mary Ann Perkins in 1846 - Parish of Matherne Mon.
His father (stated on copy of marriage cert) was a Thomas Probert and I believe he married an Elizabeth Ambrey in 1805 English Bicknor.
My research so far has mostly been on the internet via Census and this site - I live on the Wirral but at some stage I hope to make a visit to the Forest to confirm my findings.
Does anyone think there might be some family connection with the Proberts from the threads? A newbie to all this so hope posting reads ok.
Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
by probsy4 
, Bedford, Monday, March 09, 2009, 17:19 (5811 days ago) @ SallyAT
Hi1
My name is Dave Probert and I am slowly piecing together the family history of the Proberts' in the forest.
Most of my relatives still reside in the forest and any pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of the forest Proberts' would be great.Please email so we can swap information.
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Dave Probert
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Henry PROBERT - circa 1820 - 1895 - Lydbrook
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, March 09, 2009, 19:37 (5810 days ago) @ SallyAT
1841
William Probert abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Probert abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
Henry Probert abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
Sarah Probert abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
Thomas Probert abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
1851
Henery Robert abt 1823 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Woolaston, Monmouthshire
Mary Nn Robert abt 1823 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Woolaston, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Robert abt 1849 Shurnewton, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Woolaston, Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Robert abt 1850 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston, Monmouthshire
1861
Henry Probert abt 1821 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary A Probert abt 1823 Chepeston, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Monmouth, Monmouthshire
others ?
1871
Henry Probert abt 1821 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary A Probert abt 1823 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Arthur Probert abt 1865 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Edwin Probert abt 1867 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Fredrick Probert abt 1863 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary A Probert abt 1851 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Sarah Probert abt 1856 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
William H Probert abt 1858 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Wilson Probert abt 1868 Osburton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
1881
Henry Probert abt 1820 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Probert abt 1824 Mathen, Monmouth, Wales Wife Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Edwin E. Probert abt 1867 Monmouth, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Probert abt 1855 Shirenewton, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Henry M. Probert abt 1868 Monmouth, Wales Son Monmouth, Monmouthshire
Sarah Probert abt 1861 Monmouth, Wales Daughter Monmouth, Monmouthshire
1891
Henry Travers abt 1821 Lyabrook, Gloucestershire, England Head Ross, Herefordshire
Maryann Travers abt 1823 Mathern, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Ross, Herefordshire
Edwin E Travers abt 1869 Osberton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Ross, Herefordshire
Elizabeth Travers abt 1853 Cross, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Ross, Herefordshire
Year: 1895
Month: Aug
Day: 30
Surname: PROBERT
Forenames: Henry
Residence: Station St
Age_at_death: 76
Officiating_Minister: R Money Kyrle Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BW14/20
Page_No: 68
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye
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Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
Henry and Mary Ann Probert (nee Perkins) were my great grandparents. They were married at Mathern on 8th October 1846.According to the marriage certificate Henry was then living at Shirenewton.
The following information I have gleaned from census returns.
1851 farming at Woolaston, 2 children Elizabeth & Mary.
1861 at Osbaston. Just Henry & Mary, don't know where the children were.
1871 Osbaston, Henry & Mary plus children Mary 20, Sarah 15, William 13, Frederick 8, Arthur 6, Edwin 4, Henry M 3.
1881 White Swan Hotel, Agincourt Square, Monmouth. Henry, out of business farmer,wife mary. Daughters Elizabeth, hotel keeper, Sarah, barmaid,sons Edwin & Henry scholars.
1891 Station Road Ross. Henry & Mary plus daughter Elizabeth & son Edwin.
Mary Ann died 17th Jan 1895 & Henry 27th Aug 1895.
On 1901 census I found Elizabeth at Ashfield Park letting apartments & alsoliving there her brother Edward(Edwin?).
My grandfather was Frederick born 28th Nov 1861 married Ada in Burford 1908 & they farmed at Arbour Hill, Ross. Frederick died 23rd Feb 1919. He left a widow & 2 daughters, Mary Louise born 1910 & Annie Elizabeth (my mother)born 1912.
Judith
Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
Thanks for posting the info you had. Looks like we are the same family. Your Grandfather Frederick would have been a brother of my Grandfather Henry Milson Probert (1868-1925). I do not know if my mother new of any Uncles or Aunts on her fathers side but I do not recall her mentioning anyone and regretfully I never asked - the interest only came about after her death.
Have missing children on 1861 Wales Census.
Tellanny Farm - Mathern
William Probert- Head - 46 - Farmer employing 6 men & 2 boys - English Bicknor
Jane Probert - Wife 46 - Welsh Bicknor
Polly Yapp - Visitor - 22 - Salop
Elizabeth Probert - Visitor - 12 - Scholar - Shirenewton
James Thomas - Visitor - 7- Scholar - Mathern
Mary Ann - Visitor - 10 - Scholar - Shirenewton
Sarah - Visitor - 5 - Scholar - Monmouth
William Henry - Visitor - 3 - Monmouth
Sarah Ann Rood - Servant
John? Harris - Visitor
Jane Ambrey - Visitor - 10 - Monmouth
George Pickett - Servant
Thomas Edwards -Servant
Davey Kishman - Servant
Davey??? Kishman - Servant
For interest - Probert Brothers - Butchers had shops at 11 High Street (now Andy Callwood) my uncles William Milson and Henry Albert were born there and 1 Broad Street (now Going Places) where my mother was born. At some stage they moved to Merrydale Farm where they farmed (now a housing development) and this is where my Grandfather died in 1925.
The Thomas Probert Will that has been posted seems to relate to whom would be our GtGtGrandfather but would like to confirm if a connection with William Probert who was involved in the Elstree murder and later hanged for horse theft?
Would be happy to here from anyone interested.
Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
Thanks for the info from the 1861 census. The person who registered my grandfather's death in 1919 was his brother William H who gave his address as Tudorville House, Ross. I wonder whether that means another branch of the family had moved to Ross.
The Thomas Probert Will could well be our gt gt grandfather. In 1841 his widow Elizabeth was living in Lydbrook with children Thomas, William, Henry & Sarah.
I have my mother's old photo albums & it would be interesting to know whether any of the people in the photos were Probert relatives. There are christian names under some of the photos but not surnames.
Judith
Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
by probsy4 , Bedford, Friday, December 18, 2009, 22:48 (5526 days ago) @ probert
I would love to see the old photos
Dave Probert
Henry Probert - Born 1823 - Lydbrook
by probsy4 , Bedford, Friday, December 18, 2009, 22:47 (5526 days ago) @ SallyAT
Yes.
For your interest google William Probert and Thurtell. You will find the whole story about William Probert on Google books. It is fascinating.
Dave Probert