Isaac COLLINS bap 1858 in Lydbrook -Prior Thread (General)

by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, April 04, 2009, 20:55 (5785 days ago) @ jchardy

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=3603

It may just be as simple as born Dec 1857 Baptised Jan 1858

Year 1858
Month Jan
Day 17
Parents Surname COLLINS
Child Forenames Isaac
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Prudence
Mothers Surname
Residence Lydbrook
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister Temple Hamilton Chase
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 20811
Page Number 22
Parish Chapel Lydbrook

JONATHAN COLLINS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 NOV 1770 West Hanney, Berkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: JONATHAN COLLINS
Mother: ELIZ.
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P020241 1716 - 1812 0088485 Film 1235408 Film
Sheet: 00

1841 East Hanney Village
Johnathan Collins abt 1771 Berkshire, England West Hanney, Berkshire Ag Lab
William Collins abt 1796 Berkshire, England West Hanney, Berkshire
Grace Collins abt 1821 Berkshire, England West Hanney, Berkshire
James Collins abt 1823 Berkshire, England West Hanney, Berkshire

Year: 1848
Month: Dec
Day: 3
Grooms_Surname: COLLINS
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: full
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Lydbrook West Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Collins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Jonathan
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: HARRIS
Brides_Forenames: Prudence
Brides_Age: full
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Lydbrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Harris
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of Richard Harris
Witness_2: Mark of Susan Harris
Other_Witnesses: None
Officiating_Minister: James Banks M.A. Perpet. Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: -
Notes: -
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

1851
James Collins abt 1822 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Head Woolhope, Herefordshire
Prudence Collins abt 1827 Sidbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolhope, Herefordshire
Sarah Collins abt 1849 Sidbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolhope, Herefordshire

Collins James
12/07/1868
12
Collier
Trafalgar
He concealed some gunpowder and it exploded in his pocket burning him so severely that he died next day.

1861 Upper Lydbrook -Ausley ( probably Horselea / Horsley)
James Collins abt 1822 N Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Rebecca Collins abt 1822 N Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah A Collins abt 1849 Ledbury, Worcestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
James Collins abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Martha Collins abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Richard Collins abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
James Collins abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Sophia Collins abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

Collins James
date of accident 07/06/1870
Age 46
Inclineman
Trafalgar Colliery
In attaching a loaded tram to a set the trigger slipped on a sleeper and the set backed and crushed him to death.

1871 The Boarts, Lydbrook
Prudence Collins abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Esther Ann Collins abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Isaac Collins abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Collins abt 1870 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Collins abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Collins abt 1863 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Collins abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Isaac Collins abt 1858 Lydbrook Lodger Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

If we look at Richard 1863 , we find a "gap" between his Baptism and his "official" registration, we also get confirmation that we are dealing with a "non conformist" family. So a missing BMD for Isaac in this time frame should not be a surprise. From 1837 registration was voluntary, from 1874 it became mandatory.

Name: Richard Collins
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 24

Year 1865
Month Mar
Day 24
Parents Surname COLLINS
Child Forenames Richard
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Prudence
Mothers Surname
Residence Worralhill
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister Rt Wall
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes The year appears to be 1863
Register Reference D2598 3/3
Page Number 28
Parish Chapel West Dean Methodist Circuit

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