Hi I am new to this site, but wondered if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Although I can find this couple from 1861 living in Bristol and Mary's baptism 1814, and I believe their marriage in Upton Bishop 1841, I am unable to find them in between these times on the census.

Mary states on all census's that she was born in Upton Bishop or Ross on Rye which I believe to be the same place!!!! Richard states that he was born in Monmouth and I am unable to find his baptism. Help Please??

Tedee

Year: 1814
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Lillian
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Crowhill
Occupation: Sawyer
Officiating_Minister: R E Owen
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daugr of
Notes:
Register_Reference: AD99/4
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

Year: 1841
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: WATKINS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Innkeeper
Grooms_Residence: Monmouth
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Watkins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Confectioner
Brides_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Upton Bishop
Brides_Fathers_Surname: James
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: W R Sandamore
Witness_2: Charlotte Sandamore
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Garbett Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: BS26
Page_Number: 10
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop

RICHARD WATKINS
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Marriages:
Spouse: AMELIA DRAKE
Marriage: 31 MAR 1807 Dingestow, Monmouth, England
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Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

1841
Richard Watkins abt 1781 Monmouth, Monmouthshire Confectioner
Amelia Watkins abt 1786 Monmouth, Monmouthshire

1841 Monnow St
Richard Watkins abt 1811 Monmouthshire, Wales Monmouth, Monmouthshire Publican
Mary Watkins abt 1815 Monmouth, Monmouthshire

Name: Richard Vaughan Watkins ?
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 264

1851

1861
Richard Watkins abt 1810 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins abt 1816 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire
John Watkins abt 1842 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins abt 1851 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire
Richard Watkins abt 1849 Bristol Son Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire
Tom Watkins abt 1853 Bristol Son Bristol St Michael, Gloucestershire

1871
Richard Watkins abt 1807 Monmouthshire, Wales Head St James, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins abt 1813 Upton; Bishop, Herefordshire, England Wife St James, Gloucestershire
Richard Watkins abt 1849 Bristol; Clifton Son St James, Gloucestershire
Tom Watkins abt 1852 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Son St James, Gloucestershire
Annie James abt 1854 Upton Bishop, Herefordshire, England Niece St James, Gloucestershire
Louisa Watkins abt 1866 Bristol, St James Granddaughter St James, Gloucestershire

Name: Richard Watkins ??
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 73
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 30

1881 28 Grafton St
Mary Watkins abt 1815 Hereford, England Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out, Gloucestershire
Louisa Watkins abt 1868 St James Bristol Granddaughter Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

contender

1841 a Richard W appears in grosmont as an Ag Lab

RICHD. WATKINS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 MAY 1808 Grosmont, Monmouth, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHD. WATKINS
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P017431 1589 - 1873 0104873 Film 1235404 Film
P017431 1589 - 1873 0104873 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

contender ( caution)

1841 a Richard W with Rachel appears in Llanover as a labourer

RICHARD WATKINS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 APR 1810 Llanover, Monmouth, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHARD WATKINS
Mother: RACHEL
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available.

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hi Slowhands

Thanks for this, this is the information I have, was not sure about the son John Watkins as age does not match to 1861 census. (unless another son was born to them.) They do all seem to match up apart from that. Thank you very much for your help

Tedee

Hi

You are all fantastic!!! I should be working, but found the marriage of Mary and Richard late last night on this site, and now can not put it down.

Tedee

and I believe their marriage in Upton Bishop 1841, I am unable to find them in between these times on the census.

I had the impression you did not have the 1841 census data for this couple and Richards parents in Monmouth

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hi Slowhands I had it but did not think that the two were related, because of the difference in ages between census's? Is this normal?

For the 1841 adult ages were supposed to be rounded to multiples of 5 years, however this was not always the case.

Ages on census data are known to vary from one to the next - always keep an open mind !

Look for other common factors like occupation , children etc....

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Thanks Slowhand

For all your help, as I said I am only just really setting out on this quest, and still have a lot to learn.

Tedee