Hi,

Iam hoping for the additional information on this couple. They married on the 25th November 1844 in Lydney. Thomas's father was Leonard Williams, a sailor, and Esther's father was John, a labourer.
I believe that Thomas was born around 1817, but would love to find his baptism or even locate him, with or without his family on the 1841 census. Likewise with Esther.
On the 1851 census they appear to have a daughter, Charlotte, born about 1850 in West Dean, although I can't find a baptism. She doesnt appear on the 1861 census with them, although I can't find a death!
Can anybody help!!

Thanks in anticipation!

Sue Roberts

without starting a search the fact that you are having difficulty in this time frame suggests a Non conformist tradition - does that fit with anything you already know ?

1851 Old Croft
Thomas Williams abt 1817 Lisney, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ether Williams abt 1829 Lisney, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lennerd Williams abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Williams abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlott Williams abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry James abt 1807 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Williams abt 1816 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Head Lydney, Gloucestershire
Ester Williams abt 1821 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lydney, Gloucestershire
Leonard Williams abt 1845 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
Richard Williams abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
William Williams abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
Tom Williams abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
John Williams abt 1860 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire

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Father: John JAMES - Labourer

I notice the witnesses at their wedding were

Richard JAMES
Charlotte JAMES

A Richard JAMES was christened 3 August 1823 in Lidney
John (Labourer) and Charlotte

1841 census Lydney

John JAMES - 40
Charlotte - 35
Richard - 15
William - 13
Thomas - 10

Esther : is age 29 on the 1851 census c1822 and age 40 c1821 on the 1861 census.

John JAMES married Charlotte MORGAN 12 December 1821 Hundred of St Briavels

Esther MORGAN christened 14 October 1821 Lydney - Mother Charlotte

Leonard WILLIAMS married Sarah HINHAM 18 February 1796 Lydney

Children:

Edward - 10 December 1796
Leonard - 28 March 1798 - died 8 December 1824 age 25
Ann - 2 June 1800
Sarah 3 June 1805

Possible Esther James

1841 England Census HO 107/365 Book 3; Folio: 25; Page: 8
Parish of Newland
Part of Coleford Tything
Winnalls Hill

Jane Jones - 75 - Ind - N
Sarah Thomas - 20 - Ind - Y
Thophilus Trotter - 20 - Coal Proper - Y
Ester James - 15 - F.S. - Y

Thanks so much for your help,

Sue