Hi

I'm wondering if a cursory glance through the phone book in Little Dean, Gloster Mitcheldean, Tibberton, Gloucester etc shows any descendents with the following surnames...

Smith (sigh too commmon), Goode, Hughes, Tresham, Pearce, Holder.

I know that some of those names are very common but the more I research the more I think that there has to be living decendents still in the forest of dean area. I'm interested in writing to them if possible.

Slowhands, I've made some real progress on Caldwell, and have isolated Thomas and Elizabeth Goode's (nee pearce) daughter (Rachael) as the mother of Rhoda Minnie Goode. I doubt that I'll ever find a father as it seems that all the illigitimate children (Lovell raised by James Smith / Elizabeth Hughes, Rhoda M Goode raised by Thomas Goode / Elizabeth Pearce for example) all seem to be given over to their Grandparents for raising. The actual mother then pretends to have never had a child and manages to get married later on.

Can anyone tell me if this was a common practice of the time (it seems to be common in my family at least).

I located Lovells wife and family in the UK and am going to try and contact descendents next, oddly his wife Stella Burton died in 1963 (she never remarried) in the suburb in sydney (Balmain) I was bought up in (this is odd as I'm a new zealander and came here at the age of 12). It was a rough old suburb then and still was when I arrived, full of miners cottages, children. When I came there it was a real mix of new money and working class miners and there children, school was similer to being in hell with all the issues that caused.

Regards

Lawrence

ps the South Africa geneologist hit a brick wall so am still unable to find out anything about Olive Elizabeth Smith and her voyages far and wide (I have found her trip to canada and her death in NZ though).

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=18412

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=18845

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http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha

use GL14 GL15 GL16 GL17 etc or
littledean, cinderford

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Year: 1829
Month: May
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: SMITH
Grooms_Forenames: Mathew
Grooms_Age: not
Groom_Condition: not stated
Grooms_Occupation: not stated
Grooms_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: not stated
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: not stated
Brides_Surname: BARNARD
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: not
Brides_Condition: not stated
Brides_Occupation: not stated
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: not stated
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of William Roberts
Witness_2: Mark of Ann Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Chell A.B. Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Groom signs: Matthew Smith
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 24
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell

1841 Horsepool Bottom
Mathew Smith abt 1806 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Smith abt 1805 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Smith abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Smith abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Smith abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Willam Smith abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Charlote Smith abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hariet Smith abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Horsepool Bottom
Mathew Smith abt 1806 High Wicken, Buckinghamshire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Iron Miner
Eliza Smith abt 1807 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Smith abt 1832 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Smith abt 1834 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Smith abt 1839 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Smith abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Phillip Smith abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1856
Month: Feb
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: SMITH
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: full
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Saddler
Grooms_Residence: Mitcheldean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: BUDGE
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: full
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Mitcheldean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: John Smith
Witness_2: Hester Smith
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: E Machen
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 27
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1861 High Street
James Smith abt 1833 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire Saddler
Elizabeth Smith abt 1831 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
George Smith abt 1858 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Mary A Smith abt 1859 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Emily Smith abt 1860 Mitcheldean Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Nelmes abt 1842 Shapridge Servant Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Oliver Preece abt 1848 Mitcheldean Apprentice Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1868
Month: Apr
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: SMITH
Child_Forenames: Albert
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elisabeth / Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitcheldean
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: C E Dighton Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [Son of]
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1871 Townsend Mitcheldean
James Smith 39 East Dean
Elizabeth Smith 44 Stroud
Thomas Smith 17 Mitcheldean
James Smith 15 Mitcheldean
Alice Smith 13 Mitcheldean
John Smith 11 Mitcheldean
Sarah Ann Smith 9 Mitcheldean
Elizabeth Smith 7 Mitcheldean
Enock Smith 5 Mitcheldean
Abbert Smith 3 Mitcheldean

Year: 1871
Month: Nov
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: SMITH
Child_Forenames: Sydney
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitcheldean
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: C E Dighton Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [Son of]
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1881 Townsend St
James Smith abt 1832 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1828 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Albert Smith abt 1868 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Sydney Smith abt 1872 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1888
Month: Jul
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: SMITH
Grooms_Forenames: Albert
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Mitcheldean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: SMITH
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: GOODE
Brides_Forenames: Rhoda Minnie
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Mitcheldean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Powell
Witness_2: Elizabeth Smith
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: G.E.Gilbanks
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 65
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1891
Albert Smith abt 1868 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Runcorn, Cheshire Wood Mar Sawyer

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Name: Albert Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 22
District: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 151

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1841 Hocker Hill
George Goode abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Selina Goode abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Esther Goode abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Thomas Goode abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Patience Goode abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Maria Goode abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Charles Goode abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Frederick Goode abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall, Gloucestershire

Year: 1842
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: GOODE
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Day Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Walford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Goode
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: PEARCE
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Walford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Pearce
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Glazier
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: James Teague
Witness_2: Mark of Hariet Pearce
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H Formby
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: The other register says that this marriage was performed in Walford Church by Arthur Stonhouse.
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/11
Page_Number: 42
Parish_Chapel: Walford

Year: 1850
Month: Jun
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: GOODE
Child_Forenames: Rachel
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Michel Dean
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: E. Machen Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 94
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1851
Thomas Goode abt 1821 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean,
Elizabeth Goode abt 1822 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean,
Mary Ann Goode T abt 1842 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean,
Ellen Goode abt 1844 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean,
Henry Goode abt 1845 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean,
Harriett Goode h abt 1849 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean,
Rachel Goode abt 1850 Daughter Mitcheldean,

1861
Thomas Goode abt 1821 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Goode abt 1821 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Henry Goode abt 1846 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Leah Goode abt 1849 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Rachael Goode abt 1851 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Goode abt 1853 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Timothy Goode abt 1858 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1859 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

1871
Rachel Goode abt 1851 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Servant St Mary, Gloucestershire

Name: Anthony Cooper
Name: Rachel Goode
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 467

1881 106 Littleworth St. Gloucester
Anthony Cooper abt 1847 Tolher Deane Head Littleworth, Gloucestershire
Rachell Cooper abt 1850 Mitchell Deane Wife Littleworth, Gloucestershire
William Cooper abt 1874 Mitchell Deane Son Littleworth, Gloucestershire
John Cooper abt 1878 Mitchell Deane Son Littleworth, Gloucestershire
Rachell Cooper abt 1880 Forest of Deane Daughter Littleworth, Gloucestershire
Eveline Cooper Gloucestershire, England Daughter Littleworth, Gloucestershire
William Cooper abt 1869 Cheltenham Nephew Littleworth, Gloucestershire

1891 71 Robert St Cardiff
Rachel Cooper abt 1850 Cardiff Head Roath, Glamorgan Widow
Rachel Cooper abt 1880 Cardiff Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Eveline Cooper abt 1881 Cardiff Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Mary A Cooper abt 1882 Cardiff Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Gertrude Cooper abt 1884 Cardiff Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Katie Cooper abt 1886 Cardiff Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Arthur Cooper abt 1891 [ 2 yrs?] Cardiff Son Roath, Glamorgan

1901 9 Tewkesbury Place Cardiff
Rachel Cooper abt 1850 Michael Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Roath, Glamorgan Widow
William Cooper abt 1874 Michael Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Roath, Glamorgan
Rachel Cooper abt 1880 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Mary Ann Cooper abt 1883 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Roath, Glamorgan
Gertrude Cooper abt 1885 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Roath, Glamorgan

1911
COOPER RACHEL F 1850 61 Cardiff Glamorganshire

[ checking for a death]

Name: Rachel Cooper
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct/Nov/Dec 1939
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 541

and now for daughter Rachel ....

Name: Rachel Cooper
Spouse: John McClure
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cardiff (1837-1974)
County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 415

Name: Arthur R McClure
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1920
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 877

Name: Rachel McClure
Death Registration Month/Year: 1951
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 140

Name: Arthur Randolph McClure
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1920
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1998
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Register number: D11B
District and Subdistrict: 8901D
Entry number: 143

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SAMUEL CALDWELL
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 NOV 1824 Hathern, Leicester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN CALDWELL
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C059341 1758 - 1836 0590783 Film 0883838 Film
Sheet: 00

1841
John Caldwell abt 1771 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire

1841
Benjamin Glover abt 1796 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
Ann Glover abt 1801 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
Mary Glover abt 1821 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
Maria Glover abt 1826 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
Benjamin Glover abt 1826 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
Elizabeth Glover abt 1829 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire
William Glover abt 1838 Leicestershire, England Hathern, Leicestershire

1851
Benjamin Glover abt 1794 Quorndon, Leicestershire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire
Ann Glover abt 1791 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire

Name: Maria Glover
Name: Samuel Caldwell
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 15
Page: 163

1851
Samuel Caldwell abt 1824 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire
Maria Caldwell abt 1826 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire
John Oscar Caldwell abt 1849 St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire

1861
Samuel Caldwell abt 1825 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire
Meria Caldwell abt 1826 M??, Leicestershire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire
Oscar Caldwell abt 1849 Nottingham, Wales Son Hathern, Leicestershire
Joseph Caldwell abt 1852 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire
John Caldwell abt 1855 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire
Samuel Caldwell abt 1857 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire
Emma Caldwell abt 1859 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Daughter Hathern, Leicestershire
Charles Caldwell abt 1860 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire

1871 Hathern, Leicestershire
Samuel Caldwell 46
Maria Caldwell 45
John Caldwell 16
Samuel Caldwell 14
Charles Caldwell 10
Emily Caldwell 5

Joseph Caldwell 1852 Army record
signed up Aug 30th 1870 enlisted Nottingham
various promotions listed and campaign to South Africa ,Natal in 1879, and Bombay
discharged Gosport Oct 1882(?)

1881 hathern
Edward (Rev.) Smythies Georgina S. abt 1819 Clare Park Crowdell, Hampshire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire rector
Georgina S. Smythies Edward (Rev.) abt 1825 Sutton Bonnington, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire
Frances E.E. Smythies abt 1856 Sutton Bonnington, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Hathern, Leicestershire
George E. Smythies abt 1874 Argentine Arlos Tusboig Santa Fe Province (B S), South America Grandson Hathern, Leicestershire
Herbert P. Smythies abt 1875 Argentine Los Tusboig Santa Fe Province (B S), South America Grandson Hathern, Leicestershire
Ellen Swift abt 1858 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Servant Hathern, Leicestershire Cook

Name: Joseph Caldwell
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Swift
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 143

1891
Joseph Caldwell abt 1852 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire
Ellen E Caldwell abt 1858 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire
Samuel Caldwell abt 1886 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire
Joseph Caldwell abt 1888 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire

1901
Joseph Caldwell abt 1852 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Head Hathern, Leicestershire
Ellen E Caldwell abt 1858 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Wife Hathern, Leicestershire
Joseph Caldwell abt 1888 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Son Hathern, Leicestershire
Mary E Caldwell abt 1893 Hathern, Leicestershire, England Daughter Hathern, Leicestershire

1911
CALDWELL JOSEPH M 1852 59 Lutterworth Leicestershire
CALDWELL KATHARINE F 1872 39 Lutterworth Leicestershire

1911
MILITARY CALDWELL JOSEPH 1887 24 Canterbury Kent

1914-18 Medal record
Joseph Caldwell
Sgt 9th Lancers No 535
Lieut. Northern Reg

1918 address
Brooklyn
Great Wigborough
Colchester
Essex

2009 address ?
Brooklyn Farm
Maldon Road
Great Wigborough
Colchester
Essex
CO5 7RU
ENGLAND

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Year: 1791
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: GOOD
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been extended to the full name
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall

Year: 1817
Month: Jan
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: GOODE
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: HOLDER
Brides_Forenames: Selina Mary Anne
Brides_Age: [not stated]
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: of this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Henry Bossom
Witness_2: [?] Holder
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Newport Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 6
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

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Name: Thomas James Sunshine
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stepney (To 1921)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 399

1841
George Sunshine abt 1816 Stepney, Middlesex
Sarah Sunshine abt 1816 Middlesex, England Stepney, Middlesex
James Sunshine abt 1838 Middlesex, England Stepney, Middlesex

1861
James Sunshine abt 1839 London, England Lodger Millbrook, Hampshire

1871
James E Sunshine 34
Ann Sunshine 37
James E Sunshine 18
Charlotte Sunshine 14
John F W Sunshine 11
David T Sunshine 8
Jonathan Sunshine 4

1871 Rochester
James Rose 50
Rebecca Rose 35
Walter John Rose 8
William Rose 6
James Rose 98

Name: Mary Elizabeth Rose
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 97

1881
James Sunshine abt 1829 London, Middlesex, England Head Portsmouth, Hampshire
Ann Sunshine abt 1834 Chipp Norton, Oxfordshire, England Wife Portsmouth, Hampshire
James E. Sunshine abt 1854 Chipp Norton, Oxfordshire, England Son Portsmouth, Hampshire
John H.W. Sunshine abt 1860 Hastings, Sussex, England Son Portsmouth, Hampshire
David J. Sunshine abt 1863 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Portsmouth, Hampshire
Johnathan Sunshine abt 1867 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Portsmouth, Hampshire
Eliza A. Sunshine abt 1874 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsmouth, Hampshire

1881
James Rose abt 1810 Faversham, Kent, England Head Canterbury St Mary Bredman, Kent
Rebecca Rose abt 1836 St Mary, Devon, England Wife Canterbury St Mary Bredman, Kent
Mary E. Rose abt 1873 Bristol, Somerset, England Daughter Canterbury St Mary Bredman, Kent

Name: Jonathan Sunshine
Name: Mary Elizabeth Rose
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 846

Name: Ann Elizabeth Sunshine
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 487

1891
Jonathan Sunshine abt 1868 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Head Portsmouth, Hampshire
Mary Sunshine abt 1872 Oney St Marys, Devon, England Wife Portsmouth, Hampshire
Ann Sunshine abt 1891 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsmouth, Hampshire
Rebecca Rose abt 1839 Oney St Marys, Devon, England Mother-in-law Portsmouth, Hampshire

1901
Mary E Sunshine abt 1875 Bristol, Somerset, England Head St Dunstan Within, Kent
Ann E Sunshine abt 1891 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter St Dunstan
Samuel H Streeting abt 1882 Canterbury, Kent, England Lodger St Dunstan Within, Kent

1911
ANN ELIZABETH SUNSHINE F 1891 20 Bridge Kent

Name: Joseph Caldwell
Name: Ann E Sunshine
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Sunshine
District: Canterbury
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1297

Name: Mary E Caldwell
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Sunshine
District: Amesbury
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 284

Name: Joyce A Caldwell
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Sunshine
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 218

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hi Slowhands,

I think we've been in touch before, but I can't remember your real name, lol. What more do you know about Elizabeth GOOD the mother of George? I have her as the mother of another baseborn child Charlotte GOOD baptised 24 Mar 1794 Abenhall.

Did she ever marry? Or did she just keep on having baseborn children?

Regards,

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

Hi A

Are you referring to Elizabeth Mary Cook, married William George R Goode in 1794. They had George and also Thomas Goode. The Charlotte Goode I have in my records is from 1836 and she is the daughter of Thomas Goode b. 1806 and Lydia b.1801

If you post the details for your Charlotte Goode and sources I'll add her into my tree. Likewise if you would like more I'll happily send oyu a gedcom file with the information I have.

One caveate - because the Goodes largely immigrated to the US and became mormons I'm finding that a lot of the information on them is quite suspect. My experience is that LDS information can be highly inaccurate and so I'd ask that you verify the information I send independently.

Hi Lawrencef,

Having traced the GOOD/E family back to the best of my ability, I seem to have a succession of baseborn children. I wanted to confirm that I wasn't missing any marriages.

1. Elizabeth GOOD baptised 24 Jan 1779 Blaisdon, Gloucester. Mother Sarah GOOD
2a. George GOOD baptised 28 Aug 1791 Abenhall, Gloucester. Mother Elizabeth GOOD
2b. Charlotte GOOD baptised 14 Mar 1794 Mitcheldean, Gloucester. Mother Elizabeth GOOD

I was asking if Elizabeth GOOD had every married, or whether she kept having baseborn children. Is this Elizabeth GOOD (maiden name) in your family tree?

Nancy

Time to lay poor Albert Smith to rest.

Albert travelled to Runcorn to work on the Canals. His wife Rhoda Smith (nee Goode) was at his side when he died on the 15 Dec 1891 of typhoid fever at 6 Grindrod Sq Runcorn. His death was attended by Bartholomew Marigan MD. If anyone has a photo of that address from that period I'd love to see it as it is now some sort of bypass.

His wife Minnie may have reverted to her maiden name or not. I cannot really locate her after 1891 in any records.

I suspect that this might be her but have not been able to confirm.

Surname GOODE
First Name Rhoda
Abode Barn Hill near Coleford
Year Proved 1920
Page Number 317
Year of Death 1920
Month of Death Oct
Day of Death 17
Value Under £152
Admons Will
Notes
From Forest of dean Wills
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/wills/

Their daughter Olive Elizabeth Smith appears to have been bought up by her Great Gandmother Elizabeth Goode.

Minnie Goodes mother Rachel Goode married Anthony Cooper (1847-1889) and she moved to Cardiff shortly before he died (or perhaps at around the same time of his death). I've even located a photo on the house they lived in at Cardiff. They had quite a few children (and the McClure line is I think in or around London but I've not been able to track them past the 70's).

Feel free to contact me directly for a gedcom file containing verified information.

Just to clarify, Minnie Goode and Rhoda Goode are the same person.

Birth certificate confirms that Rachel Goode is the mother of Minnie Goode. Elizabeth Goode reported the birth. Her mark is in the certificate.

Name: Minnie Goode
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 222

The Name Rhoda is not on her birth certificate at all. Her name is Minnie Goode. Rhoda was added in at her baptism:

Year: 1869 Month: Nov Day: 7

Parents_Surname: GOODE
Child_Forenames: Rhoda Minnie

Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]

Mothers_Forenames: Rachel
Mothers_Surname:

Residence: Micheldean [sic]
Occupation: In Service
Officiating_Minister: William Charles Fox Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Register_
Reference: P220 IN 1/4 Page_
Number: 38 Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

I'm glad its all starting to fit together :-)

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

RUDGE not BUDGE in the FoD Transcription

Year: 1831
Month: Apr
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: RUDGE
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Clarissa
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitchel Dean
Occupation: Grocer
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 53
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

1841
John Rudge abt 1796 Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Rudge abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Clarisa Rudge abt 1806 Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Rudge abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean,

1851
Charissa Rudge abt 1800 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Rudge abt 1830 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Son Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Peth Rudge abt 1831 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

Name:James Smith
Name: Elizabeth Rudge
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 275

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After Slowhands passed away; I slowed my research considerably but in the interests of leaving a trace for anyone who stumbles on this thread, I found out what happened to Alberts wife Minnie (nee Goode).

She died 11 days after Albert of Typhoid in the same hospital.

26 Dec 1891, Runcorn, Cheshire, UK, Hospital House.

Deaths Dec 1891
SMITH Rhoda 22 Runcorn 8a 155

(Certificate in my possession).

Minnie's mother Rachel Goode went off to Cardiff and I'm delighted to discover that they have left numerous descendants. In fact she had 9 children with Anthony Cooper b. June 1847 d. 1889 Mitcheldean.

Anyone who is a descendant of the Goode, Smith, Millard families I'd love to hear from you.

Regards

Lawrence Finn (3rd Great Grandson of Rachel Goode and I live in Australia do that's even more amusing)