MASON, BARNARD and SAUNDERS families of Ruardean

im in th process of tracing my family tree which includes the Mason family from Ruardean.
My great garndmother was Florence Eveline Mason who was married to Edward John Jones in 1909. Her mother was Ellen Masson whos father was Noah Mason who was married to a Charlotte Barnard.

My grandfathers mother was a Charlotte aynes Saunders. My Father and i have traced Noah back to 1838 along with his brotheres Jothan,James and Benjamin Mason, we also came across a Corneiliuss Mason who was living at the Angel pub in the High street Ruardean on the 1881 census he was 83 would this be Noahs father?

Another thing we heard thru rumour is the family may have had Romany blood originally due to the unusual first names such as Amiah.Meada,Noah,Hezekial,Jacob,Jotham,Zilpha Benjamin etc all Biblical names used by early Romany families along with the Surnames Mason,Saunders,Barnard and Jones all Romany surnames?

Any info anyone can send me would be very much appreciated by me and me father maybe he still has some relations down that way?

Yours sincerely Duncan McDonald

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Is this one of yours Duncan?

Record_ID: 13950
Entry_Number: 1404
Year: 1837
Month: Nov
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: MASON
Child_Forenames: Noah
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Zilpah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Occupation: Quarry man
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 176
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: M250

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Hi there that was my great grandmothers grand parents,Noah who married Charlotte Barnard we never knew his Father was Thomas and didnt know Zilpha was his Mother.WE had the name Zilpha but never knew it was Noah mother,the family tree i have in front of me list Jothan Mason born 1831,James Mason born 1832,Noah Mason born 1837,Benjamin Mason born 1843.Thats as far as it goes back thats why we are not sure who Cornelius Mason is or if hes even related?We know Benjamin had 8 kids 4 of which were Deaf and Dumb which must of been very hard in those times.My father had someone do some research that said she had found a marriage certificate that states that my grandmother Florence Evelines Masons father was George Mason who was Benjamin Masons son and her mother was Ellen Mason which would make them first cousins!And that they had there Great Uncle Jothan Mason as a witness!Apart from this we know nothing of the Family only the Jones side which was my Grandmother who was brought up in Abertillery,also not sure if the Romany rumours are true.any info anyone might have would be greatfully receaved Thanks Duncan

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We have a couple of photos that include Nellace MASON in the Watkins of Ruardean section of the Photo Gallery.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/watkins_ruardean/

Would you know if Nellace Mason is related to your family?

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Hello there id have to check with my Father he may of been one of my greatgandmother Forence Eveline Masons uncles or aunties kids or even an Offspring of Benjamin Mason her great Uncles?If anyone knows please tell me as this would be the first pic me and my Dad will have seen of the Mason family apart from a few of my Dads grandmother Flo,she married Edward John Jones in 1909 and moved to Abertillery Gwent where she eventually died.Yours thankfully Duncan

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Possible Thomas/Zilpah marriage?

Record_ID: 31444
Entry_Number: 64
Year: 1828
Month: Feb
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: MASON
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: [not
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: CHIVERS
Brides_Forenames: Zilpah
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Joseph Chivers
Witness_2: Mary Herbert
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin A M Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Bride signs: Zilpah Chives
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 22
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell
Soundex_Groom: M250
Soundex_Bride: C162

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Hello Chris cheers for your email i reckon that would definately be them,il have to show this to me Dad,im hoping someone else may shed some light on Cornelius Mason,thanks again for your research it is really appreciated anything you could find out would help alot,i may even find out if we have any relaties down there i take it your not related to the Mason family then?Duncan

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I take it you're not related to the Mason family then?

Not as far as I know Duncan!

There appear to be rather a lot of Mason's in Ruardean, so 'tis not easy figuring out who belongs to who!

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You aint Chris i reckon the traveller rumour may of been true!

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I have Cornelius as Noah's uncle, brother of his father Thomas.

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Hello Dorothy thanks for that info thats really helpful now il have to try and track down Cornelius i know he was 83 on the 1881 census but didnt know it was Noahs Uncle

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Noah's grandfather George Mason married my GGG Grandfathers sister Mary Tippins.

George and Mary had 8 children, that I have found anyway. One of which was Thomas who married Zilpher Chivers.

I have a Cornelius Mason who was son of John Mason and Dinah Ford but he was born in 1832 and would've been Noah's cousin.

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me and my Dad have never been able to go back that far weve only ever gone back to 1831 and Jothan and his 3 brothers one of them was Noah would it be possible to tell me any info you have on Noahs father grandfathers etc also about the Tippins family,i.e places of birth and occupations.This is really interesting we must be albeit distantly related as Noah was my Great Grandmothers Grandfather!Have you ever heard anything of a Romany connection?Where me and me Dad were getting confused with a Cornelius Mason is there are 2 on the 1881 census one of 83 living in the Angel pub Highstreet RuarDean with Harriet Smith named as the Grandfather and a retired farmer,and another Corneliue Mason aged 49 a journeyman living at the street RuarDean with his wife Harriet aged 47.Nice to hear from you Emma and please let know anything and keep in touch Regards Duncan

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Duncan,

Nice to hear from you.

Thomas Mason, Noah's father, was born in 1804. He had 5 brothers and 2 sisters. Thomas's father was George Mason born approx 1765. George married Mary Tippins in 1787 at Ruardean. Mary's parents were William Tippins (C1774) and Sarah Wills (C1774). Mary Tippins had one sister, called Sarah who only lived to the age of 1 and 7 brothers. One of her brothers, Richard, was my GG Grandmothers Father. Her name was Jessie Tippins and she married John Christopher Pendrey. They had my G Grandfather Oswald Wilfred Pendrey and their daughter Dorothy Irene Pearl Pendrey is my Nana.

All the Tippins that I could find were born in the Forest but some did move to Wales.

Cornelius Mason born in 1832 was married to Harriet Cooper and they had 7 children. If you would like to contact me on my personal email address it is [deleted]. I was sent some info on the Tippins family by some family who emigrated to New Zealand.

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Hello cheers for the reply ill have to get me Dad to have a look at the forum hel be over the moon he did hire someone about 9 years ago to trace hes family but they never found out this much!Like i say my Dads grandmother Florence Mason moved to Abertillery around 1900 and i see on one of the censuses Noah and his wife were there at the time visiting it looks like Florence did keep in contact with her family after all.My Dad was born in Abertillery and can just about remember his Nan flo and grandad Jones,my Nans passed away her Brothers are still alive one lives in South London the others are in Blackwood Gwent,they would be Flos sons.Unfortuneately they no nothing of the Mason family connection and we have only a couple of photos of flo and her husband,now we know we have links with the Tippins and the Coppers that could be another avenue to go down,please email me at this address [deleted] if you can provide any more info id love to hear it.Thanks again all the best Duncan

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sorry about that Emma i put email address down wrong it should read [deleted]

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Sorry about that. Cornelius was a cousin of Noah' father Thomas. Now I'm getting lost in so many Masons.

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Cheers Dorothy your not wrong about the amount of Masons!im over the moontho i never knew nothing about em!all the best Duncan

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I suspect he photograph of Nellace/Nellis is taken in the 1960's, with Nellace being in this Sixties.

So my wild shot of the day - Is Nellace = Dennis ?

Name: Denis Lewis B Mason
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 24

Year: 1900
Month: Dec
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: MASON
Child_Forenames: Dennis Louis Benjamin
Fathers_Forenames: Edwin
Mothers_Forenames: Emily Selby
Mothers_Surname: SELBY
Residence: Broadwell Lane End
Occupation: Mason
Officiating_Minister: E H Brice
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 94
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Year: 1900
Month: Feb
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: MASON
Child_Forenames: Milson Edwin
Fathers_Forenames: Edwin
Mothers_Forenames: Emily
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coalway Lane End Coleford
Occupation: Quarryman
Officiating_Minister: W Townsend
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [PB]
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 81
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

Year: 1898
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: MASON
Grooms_Forenames: Edwin
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Mason
Grooms_Residence: Holy Trinity Forest of Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Mason
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Brides_Surname: SMITH
Brides_Forenames: Emily Selby
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Coalway Lane End
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Smith
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Milson
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Colliery Proprietor
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Milson Smith
Witness_2: Ambrose Evans Williams
Other_Witnesses: Emily Williams
Officiating_Minister: Edward H Brice
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 154
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1901
Edwin Mason abt 1879 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Mason abt 1878 Ellen Green West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Denis Louis Mason abt 1900 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mitson E Mason abt 1900 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
Ben Mason abt 1844 Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Malenda Mason abt 1845 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Mason abt 1867 Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ernest Mason abt 1876 Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Mason abt 1878 Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lewis Mason abt 1880 Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Benjamin Mason abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Milinda Mason abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Mason abt 1867 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Mason abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Mason abt 1871 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Mason abt 1873 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ernest Mason abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Meada Mason abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Mason abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lewis Mason East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Brex Mason abt 1844 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Malinda Mason abt 1845 Ruardean Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Mason abt 1867 Ruardean Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Mason abt 1868 Ruardean Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Melinda Davis
Name: Benjamin Mason
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 450a

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I was interested to read this posting as an Emily Selby was mentioned, married to Edwin Mason.

I believe this is the Emily Selby (1878) mentioned on the 1881 Census as living with John and Emily Selby at Clearwell Mene, stated to be their daughter. However, I could find nothing more about her until fairly recently when looking at the family again and the 1891 Census, I realised that John and Emily's eldest daughter, Ann, who was married to Milson Smith in 1883, had a daughter called Emily (1878) and this filled a piece of the jigsaw. I hadn't got round to looking for a marriage in the name of Smith. However, I think this has solved my problem as on her marriage to Edwin Mason she is named as Emily Selby Smith, and her father as Milson Smith. I will now be able to update the Selby family further by studying the rest of this posting.

Thanks again Slowhands. You are a star!

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