Curtis, Rachel Latelia Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1874 District: Westbury on Severn County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 227.
i'm researching a Rachel Natelia Curtis who married a John Casey in NSW Australia I was wondering if this is the same person. I do not know her parents name and I'm not sure where she was born. As Latelia & Natelia are very simular could this be the same person

Hi - Do you know when Rachel tavelled to Australia? There is no Rachel Curtis born 1874 in the 1881 census, was she in OZ. And no Rachel N Curtis registered in 1874, so I think this Rachel is as close as you are going to get, especially if you know she left Britain before 1881. Two Rachels one in Norfolk and one near London I think are non starters. I think it's worth getting the birth certificate.

Not many Curtis families in the 1871 census that would be registered Westbury on Severn (East Dean)Edwin and Emma who are still there in 1881 no Rachel.

In Lydney there's a young couple Thomas and Martha with a son Lewis age 7 months, but they are still there in 1881 no Rachel

A widower Jacob age 55 is there with two daughters in Westbury, Julia 13 (16 when Rachel was born) and Sarah age 12

I'll gamble on Julia, she's not there in 1881 and I would think any marriage would be registered Westbury, Jacob dies there in 1879 age 64. Of course Rachel being a Curtis would be illigitimate, is that the reason for emmigrating. Good luck Fred All guess work

I have to follow Fred on this one

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=1473

Name: Rachel Latelia Curtis ( understood to be Lydbrook Hill)
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 227

possible family ?

1871 Whitecliff
Leonard Curtis abt 1828 South Cerney Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Curtis abt 1832 Chalford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Bird abt 1859 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Ann Curtis abt 1859 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Rosa Curtis abt 1865 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Harriett Curtis abt 1868 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire

1871 Cinderford
Jacob Curtis abt 1816 Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Julia Curtis abt 1858 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Curtis abt 1859 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Cinderford
Edwin Curtis abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Curtis abt 1846 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Janes Curtis abt 1870 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881 Bilson Green Cinderford
Edd. Curtis abt 1844 W Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Curtis abt 1846 W Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jas. Curtis abt 1870 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Leonard Curtis abt 1872 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Curtis abt 1876 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hy. Curtis abt 1878 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edd. Curtis abt 1880 E Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

However there is one avenue to persue ....

would fit with Rachel's official BMD registration

Year: 1874
Month: Mar
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: CURTIS
Child_Forenames: not stated
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Vention [lydbrook]
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: George Burbidge
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598 3/4
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: East Dean Methodist Circuit

who I suspect is :-
Year: 1873
Month: Aug
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: CURTIS
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Quarryman
Grooms_Residence: Lydbrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: CURTIS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Forenames: Catherine
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Lydbrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he sign she mark
Witness_1: Mark Coles
Witness_2: Fanny Robinson
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Tho[ma]s Hoitt
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 43
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook

I think this is Charles son of John / labourer -

1881 -> Charles Curtis not around

1871
John Curtis abt 1826 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Head Twigworth Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Curtis abt 1826 Arte, Gloucestershire, England Wife Twigworth Gloucestershire
Arthur F Curtis abt 1862 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Twigworth Gloucestershire
Barbara Curtis abt 1864 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twigworth Gloucestershire
Charles Curtis abt 1853 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Twigworth Gloucestershire
Thomas Curtis abt 1860 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Twigworth Gloucestershire
Ellen Curtis abt 1866 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twigworth Gloucestershire

1861
John Curtis abt 1824 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Head Twigworth Gloucestershire Labourer
Elizabeth Curtis abt 1826 Alstone, Gloucestershire, England Wife Twigworth Gloucestershire
Anne Curtis abt 1852 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twigworth Gloucestershire
Charles Curtis abt 1854 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Twigworth Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Curtis abt 1848 Down Hatherley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twigworth Gloucestershire
Henry Thos Curtis abt 1860 Twigworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Twigworth Gloucestershire

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as for Catherine / Kate Roberts - here is my suspect with a Letitia mother/ John father - Latelia / Latitia

1871
John Roberts abt 1823 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Litha Roberts abt 1823 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Kob Roberts abt 1856 Abingball, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Lucy Roberts abt 1867 Abingball, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire

1861
Letitia Roberts abt 1825 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Mary Anne Roberts abt 1854 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Crete Roberts abt 1855 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall, Gloucestershire
William Lewis abt 1801 Newick, Gloucestershire, England Father Abinghall, Gloucestershire
Esther Lewis abt 1785 Newick, Gloucestershire, England Mother Abinghall, Gloucestershire

Year 1855
Month Apr
Day 25
Parents Surname ROBERTS
Child Forenames Kate
Fathers Forenames John
Mothers Forenames Letitia
Mothers Surname
Residence Abinghall
Occupation
Officiating Minister Joseph Lander
Event Baptism
Memoranda Daughter of
Notes
Register Reference D6026 8/1
Page Number 44
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean Congregational

Year 1853
Month Oct
Day 16
Parents Surname ROBERTS
Child Forenames Mary Ann
Fathers Forenames John
Mothers Forenames Letitia
Mothers Surname
Residence Mitcheldean
Occupation
Officiating Minister Joseph Lander
Event Baptism
Memoranda Daughter of: Born Aug 31st 1853
Notes
Register Reference D6026 8/1
Page Number 42
Parish Chapel Mitcheldean Congregational

Name: John Roberts
Name: Letitia Lewis
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 299

1851 Stenders
George Roberts abt 1802 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Roberts abt 1807 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Roberts abt 1823 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Roberts abt 1833 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Roberts abt 1836 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Roberts abt 1839 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Roberts abt 1843 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
William Lewis abt 1793 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Esther Lewis abt 1791 Punntley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Letitia Lewis abt 1825 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

1841
William Lewis abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Hester Lewis abt 1792 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Lewis abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Letisha Lewis abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire

Year 1823
Month Jun
Day 26
Parents Surname LEWIS
Child Forenames Letitia
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Esther
Mothers Surname
Residence Town of Newent
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister W. Beale
Event Baptism
Memoranda Privately baptized daughter of
Notes
Register Reference P225 IN 1/4
Page Number 127
Parish Chapel Newent

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thanks for your help. I have her marriage ceertificate NSW AUSTRALIA 16/5/1891

Rachel Natelia Curtis b 1874 Westbury on Severn,
Father Charles Curtis and Mother Catherine Roberts.

I am also researching the Curtis family from Twigworth, Gloster, England. I have a Charles Curtis who married Cathering Roberts in England. They had two children that I know of. Firstly Rachel Curtis was born around 1874 in England. She came out in N.Z. whith her parents and later went to Australis and married a John Casey and I understand that they had 9 children although I don't know their names. Secondly they had a son Charles John Curtis who was born in Nelson N.Z. in 1876. I do have some information on this family which I am happy to share. Catherine Roberts died on 14 March 1880 and Charles Curtis later married again to Hannah Davis in 1882 and she was from Lydbrook, England and they had no Chrildren.

Regards
Ruth Curtis N.Z.

I'm not sure if you're still interested in information regarding Rachel Natelia, I've recently been researching her as she's my great great grandmother. After marrying John Casey in Newcastle in 1891 they had 12 children although one died in infancy. They are:

Mary 1891-1972
Charles 1893-1953
Peter 1894-1974
Violet May 1897-1986
John Albert 1899-1972
Andrew 1902-1971
William 1904-1905
Edith Natelia 1906-1992
Jessie 1909-
William James 1911-1979
Edward Carson 1913-1932
Allen 1916-1995

Somewhere along the way their surname became CASSEY.

They also moved from NSW to Victoria and finally settled in Mt Magnet, Western Australia during the gold rush. After her husband John died of Tuberculosis in 1921 she remarried Robert J Mead in 1923 at Jarrahdale, Western Australia. As far as I know they had no children.

Rachel died on 15th August 1936 in Perth. She is buried at Karrakatta cemetery under the name Rachel Natelia Mead, next to her son Edward (Ted) who was accidently shot in 1932 at the age of 19.