Israel James Born about 1689 (General)
by emilyellen 
, Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:09 (5678 days ago)
Looking for Israel James Born about 1689 and his wife Sara .They had a son William Born about 1711 Ca anyone help please?
Israel James Born about 1689 Lydney
by ChrisW , Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 18:20 (5678 days ago) @ emilyellen
This one on IGI?
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ISRAEL JAMES Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 DEC 1689 Lydney, Gloucester, England
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: RICHD JAMES Family
Mother: AVISE
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Israel James Born about 1689 Lydney
by emilyellen , Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 15:48 (5677 days ago) @ ChrisW
Many thanks for your very helpful response which has enabled me to go one step further back in time with FOD Parish Records, together with the usual "as many questions as answers"
Israel James Born about 1689
by grahamdavison , Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 21:21 (5678 days ago) @ emilyellen
Have just looked at the original entry in the register and confirm that Israel James was baptised 26 Dec 1689 as given in the IGI. The entry is in the database but the child`s name is shown as illegible.
Israel James Born about 1689
by emilyellen , Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 15:53 (5677 days ago) @ grahamdavison
I am most grateful for your interest and confirmation of the IGI entry.
Regards K.G.W.James
Israel James Born about 1689
by man2 , Newport Pagnell, Bucks, Thursday, December 06, 2012, 19:05 (4444 days ago) @ emilyellen
I was pleased to come across this thread in my recent exploration of the James family, but it has raised a bit of a problem. The baptism record for Israel gives his parents as Richard James and Avis, and low and behold there is a marriage record in 1677 of Richard and Avis Smith (plus baptisms of several other children before Israel). However, the only baptism for an Avis Smith is in 1639 in Ruardean.
Is it really possible for a woman to have had a child at the age of 50?
Of course this long ago there must be missing records, but otherwise it seems to fit. Any suggestions welcome.
Mike
Avis SMITH 1639 -1706 Awre & Yorkley
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, December 07, 2012, 00:04 (4443 days ago) @ man2
I was pleased to come across this thread in my recent exploration of the James family, but it has raised a bit of a problem. The baptism record for Israel gives his parents as Richard James and Avis, and low and behold there is a marriage record in 1677 of Richard and Avis Smith (plus baptisms of several other children before Israel). However, the only baptism for an Avis Smith is in 1639 in Ruardean.
Is it really possible for a woman to have had a child at the age of 50?
Of course this long ago there must be missing records, but otherwise it seems to fit. Any suggestions welcome.
Mike
Perhaps a closer fit to Lydney and Yorkley. However it feels like a generation is missing - 1639 -> 1677...
Year: 1639
Month: Mar
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: SMITH
Child_Forenames: Avice
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: not stated]
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter
Notes: Old style date 1638/39. Original in Latin
Register_Reference: P30 IN 1/1 Part 1 of 2
Page_Number: 119
Parish_Chapel: Awre
Year: 1677
Month: May
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: JAMES
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Yorkly
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: SMITH
Brides_Forenames: Aviss
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Yorkly
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Compiled from Latin PRs and BTs
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Year: 1706
Month: Mar
Day: 4
Surname: JAMES
Forenames: Avice
Residence: of Yorkley
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister: J Roberts Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: wife of Richard
Notes: Old style date 1705/06
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/1
Page_No: 82
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
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Avis SMITH 1639 -1706 Awre & Yorkley
by mrsbruso , Friday, December 07, 2012, 01:24 (4443 days ago) @ slowhands
Since it doesn't list the parents or the conditions of the bride and groom, is it possible that Avis was not born Smith, but that it is her married name, and that she was widowed? Don't mean to muddy the waters here, but might that be a possibility?
Avis SMITH 1639 -1706 Awre & Yorkley
by man2 , Newport Pagnell, Bucks, Saturday, December 08, 2012, 17:47 (4442 days ago) @ slowhands
That is odd - there is another burial record for Avis, same register reference but different date.
Mike
Record_ID: 192608
Entry_Number:
Year: 1707
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Surname: JAMES
Forenames: Avis
Residence: of Yorkley
Age_at_death:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: wife of Richard
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/1
Page_No: 82
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: J520