I am trying to tie Sarah Legge in with the Legges in the Lydney area.According to various census she was born in Tidenham or Plaistow in London.
In 1871 she has an illegitamate son baptised at Chepstow Union called Richard.In the 1881 census Richard is down as Grandson to Sarah Pegley.She was Davis as maiden name,married a Richards who died then married Thomas Pegley.She came from Alvington.She has 2 children from her first marriage Margeret and Richard. In 1883 Sarah Legge gets married to Arthur Presley,her father is down as Richard, and has 14 more children.In the 1911 census she is a widow with no fertility numbers.

I have tried differing combinations looking to find Richard,sarahs birth which i think may be West Ham 1855.This ties in with the 1861 census where there is a Sarah born Plaistow ,right age but her mother was born in Weymouth.No father as he is a sailor.

I need a different set of eyes and Slowhands brilliance

thanks Karen

this seems to be the tree for Sarah, based on your understanding - father George ? perhaps a sailor or soldier - or a Richard who steps "in" whilst he is away !

1841
Elizabeth Beale abt 1791 Dorset, England Weymouth, Dorset Charwoman
Eliza Beale abt 1824 Dorset, England Weymouth, Dorset
Mary Beale abt 1831 Dorset, England Weymouth, Dorset
Louisa Beale abt 1833 Dorset, England Weymouth, Dorset
Henry Legg abt 1839 Dorset, England Weymouth, Dorset

Name:George Legg
Name: Eliza Beale
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Weymouth (To 1958)
County: Dorset
Volume: 8
Page: 273

1851 [BEALE ?]
Elizabeth Reule abt 1824 [1797] Exminster, Dorset, England Head Melcombe Regis, Dorset Charwoman Widow
Susan Reule abt 1829 Weymouth, Dorset, England Daughter Melcombe Regis, Dorset
Mary A Reule abt 1831 Weymouth, Dorset, England Daughter Melcombe Regis, Dorset
Eliza Legg abt 1826 Weymouth, Dorset, England Daughter Melcombe Regis, Dorset
Mary E Legg abt 1846 Weymouth, Dorset, England Niece Melcombe Regis, Dorset
George Legg abt 1850 Weymouth, Dorset, England Nephew Melcombe Regis, Dorset

Name: Sarah Legg
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 24

1861
Eliza Legg abt 1824 Weymouth, Dorset, England Head West Ham, Essex
George Legg abt 1848 Weymouth, Dorset, England Son West Ham, Essex
Eliza Legg abt 1852 Weymouth, Dorset, England Daughter West Ham, Essex
Maria Legg abt 1854 Weymouth, Dorset, England Daughter West Ham, Essex
Sarah Legg abt 1856 Plaistow, Essex, England Daughter West Ham, Essex
Thomas Legg abt 1858 Plaistow, Essex, England Son West Ham, Essex

or

1861
Edmund Lord abt 1830 Newchurch, Lancashire, England Head Newchurch, Lancashire
Margret Lord abt 1829 Todenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newchurch, Lancashire
Sarah Leque abt 1855 Plaistow, Essex, England Daughter Newchurch, Lancashire

1871 Woodcroft
Sarah Peale [PEGLY] 67 Alvington Head
Sarah Legge 16 Plaistow Grand dau

Name: Sarah Legge
Name:Arthur Presley
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 25

1881
Arthur Pressley abt 1849 Warminster, Wiltshire, England Head Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Sarah Pressley abt 1854 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Edward G. Pressley abt 1874 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Lucy J. Pressley abt 1876 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Frederick Pressley abt 1878 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Tom Pressley abt 1879 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire
Arthur E.L. Pressley Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham and Beachley, Gloucestershire

1891
Arthur Presley abt 1849 Warminster, Wiltshire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Presley abt 1854 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Frederick Presley abt 1878 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Tom Presley abt 1879 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Arthur Presley abt 1882 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Stephen Presley abt 1886 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
James Presley abt 1888 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Margaret Presley abt 1890 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1901
Arthur Presley abt 1850 Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Presley abt 1855 Plaistow, London, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Edmund A Presley abt 1882 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Stephen Presley abt 1886 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
James Presley abt 1889 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Neale Presley abt 1892 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Emma Presley abt 1895 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Katherine Presley abt 1898 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire

Name: Arthur Presley
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 57
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 8

1911
PRESLEY SARAH F 1855 56 Chepstow Monmouthshire
PRESLEY EMMA F 1895 16 Chepstow Monmouthshire

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may well be related

1851
Henry Legg abt 1813 North Poorton, Dorset, England Head Corscombe, Dorset
Elizabeth Legg abt 1810 Corscombe, Dorset, England Wife Corscombe, Dorset
Henry Legg abt 1839 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Joe Legg abt 1841 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Mary Legg abt 1843 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset
Joseph Legg abt 1845 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Jane Legg abt 1847 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset
Amilia Legg abt 1850 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset

1861
Henry Legg abt 1813 Netherbury, Dorset, England Head Corscombe, Dorset
Elizabeth Legg abt 1811 Corscombe, Dorset, England Wife Corscombe, Dorset
Henry Legg abt 1839 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Job Legg abt 1841 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Mary Legg abt 1843 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset
Joseph Legg abt 1845 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset
Jane Legg abt 1847 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset
Amelia Legg abt 1850 Corscombe, Dorset, England Daughter Corscombe, Dorset
Samuel Legg abt 1852 Corscombe, Dorset, England Son Corscombe, Dorset

marriage

Name: Henry Legg
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Cardiff (1837-1974)
County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 265

Name: Sophia Miller
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Cardiff (1837-1974)
County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 215

1871 Canton
Henry Sigg 31 Corscombe
Sophia Sigg 39
Amelia J Sigg 5
John Sigg 2
Joseph Sigg 1 month

1881
Henry Legg abt 1839 Corscombe, Dorset, England Head Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
Sophiah Legg abt 1833 Lavernock, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
Henery Legg abt 1862 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
William Legg abt 1864 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
Amelia Legg abt 1866 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
John Legg abt 1867 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
Joseph Legg abt 1870 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan
Richard Legg abt 1871 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan

1891
Henry Legg abt 1839 Corscombe, Dorset, England Head Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Sophia Legg abt 1853 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Richard Legg abt 1874 Canton, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan, Glamorgan

1901
Henry Legg abt 1839 Corscombe, Dorset, England Head Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Sophia Legg abt 1833 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Joseph Legg abt 1871 Canton, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Mary Legg abt 1869 Dinsapowys, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter-in-law Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Clara Legg abt 1896 Llandough, Glamorgan, Wales Granddaughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Ivor Joe Legg abt 1898 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Grandson Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Dorothy Legg abt 1900 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Granddaughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan

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have a feeling the link is on this side - needs some more work exploring the children and marriages

Year: 1803
Month: May
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: DAVIS
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: T Lewis BA Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P12 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 0
Parish_Chapel: Alvington

Margaret Baptised after the marriage probably 1 or 2 years old

Year: 1831
Month: Apr
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: RICHARDS
Child_Forenames: Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tidenham
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas] Thomas
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 74
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham

Year: 1831
Month: Feb
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: RICHARDS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: DAVIS
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Singlewoman
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of Charles Edwards
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Johnson
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Thos Thomas Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham

Year: 1840
Month: May
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: PEGLY
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Tidenham
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Pegly
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: RICHARDS
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age: 34
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: Baker
Brides_Residence: Tidenham
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Davies
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Sam
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miller
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Charles Edwards
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Edwards
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Pulling Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham

1841
Thomas Pegley abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Pegley abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Charles Pegley abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Hannah Davis abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Margaret Richard abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Richard Richard abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1851
Thomas Pigly abt 1810 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Pigly abt 1806 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Emma Pigly abt 1844 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Richard Richards abt 1833 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Margaret Richards abt 1831 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Isabella Richards abt 1850 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire

Year: 1850
Month: Aug
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: RICHARDS
Child_Forenames: Isabella
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodcroft Tidenham
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: J[ohn] Armstrong Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P33/1 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 54
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham

1861
Thomas Pegly abt 1810 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Pegly abt 1804 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Emma Pegly abt 1844 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire

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Thankyou,
I have tried linking in with Margaret Richards to no avail as this seemed the only one of the right age unless Richard Richards got someone pregnant.I wondered whether Margaret had gone to London as a servant and come back pregnant.
My Legges come from Alvington and Lydney and previous to that Uley.I have sent for Richard Legges birth certificate in case the father is on there but he is not on the baptism record on this site.

Karen

Year: 1832
Month: Dec
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: RICHARDS
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tidenham
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas] Thomas
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 80
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham

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Hi Karen,
I am also researching a Sarah Legge. I have found a Sarah Legue born in Plaistow in 1855. On the 1861 she has been mistranscribed and she is listed as Sarah Leque. Her mother is listed as Margaret Lord who was previously Margaret Legge (born in Tidenham Gloucestershire abt 1832). She is married to Edmund Lord in Lancashire 1859. I'm guessing that previously she was married to a Richard Legue/Legge who is Sarah's father? I'm also guessing that Sarah Davies ( also Richards/Pegley) is Margaret's mother? The dates seem to match and Sarah Legge is listed as living with a Sarah Pigley (mistranscribed from Peale) in the 1871 census. She is again listed as being born in Plaistow, Essex.

Louise

Hi Louise,

I haven't investigated much further since posting this as haven't got to Records office or sent for certificate.Now you have found her which i hadn't I will.

I must adnmit I hit my head that many times I gave up.The family seem to have spread wide and far.I thought Sarah may have been an illegitemate daughter which was why I couldn't find no records.

I will send for her birth certificate.The other Legg(e)s I have been trying to father out is William born 1852 and James born 1849.There mother was a Jane and there father WIlliam.I have presumed as Jane from Uley that William may well be another brother to James Tilley Legge who I am directly related to.Please ask any questions on info that I have on Legg(e)s in the area

Karen

hi karen,
ref:sarah legge.
the above person is my great grandmother, her niece vera is my mother who is agad 93 and still going strong
sarah legge was born in 1855 she come from plaistow essex when she was 14 we believe to look after aaunt in chepstow, when she was 16 she had ababy boy named richard we think also agirl named margaret,
she then married arthur presley in chepstow 1873,and had afurther what my mother can remember 13 children of which edmund born 1882 is my mother father.
she can also remember a uncle richard living in gloucester,her one son emigrate to america about 1899 we think and was killed in a fire.
ihope this is of some help to you.

richard george

This information seems to fit with the information in the prior answers - thanks

Year 1871
Month Oct
Day 23
Parents Surname PEGLEY
Child Forenames Richard
Fathers Forenames
Mothers Forenames Sarah
Mothers Surname
Residence Parish Admitted Tidenham
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Birth
Memoranda Baptised 15 Nov 1871 Blank
Notes Illegitimate/male
Register Reference
Page Number
Parish Chapel Chepstow Union Workhouse

Year: 1871
Month: Nov
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: LEGGE
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: not stated
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tidenham Parish Union Workhouse
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: s[on] o[f]
Notes: Annotated ** signifying from out of the County. Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: 1861-1873
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow Monmouth

1881
Sarah Pegley abt 1804 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Richard Legge abt 1872 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Grandson Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1900 ?
Richard Legg name city, Kanawha, West Virginia date location White Wales

1910 ?
Richard Legg name city, Kanawha, West Virginia abt 1870 Wales

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Hi,this is very late but many thanks,I have not looked at this side of the family for a long time but will revisit and work through the info I have.

Karen

Hi Karen

My name is Zoe Presley, following on from Richards comments I think Arthur Presley was my great grand father. I would really like to find out more about my family tree so would appreciate any information you have on the family.

The reason I think the above is that I know for shaw that Vera George is my grand fathers sister.

I look forward to hearing from you & if you need any information I can help you with the immediate presley family.

Hope to hear from you soon

Zoe x

Hi Zoe
My name was Yvonne Presley before I was married, my Fathers name was Neale Presley, unfortunately illegitimate, his mother was Gladys Beatrice Presley, who went to Canada in 1925, leaving Neale to be looked after by an Aunt. Gladys's father was Richard Presley, married to Ada Swan, I have not been able to find Richards death anywhere, Ada died in 1930. Richards mother who was Sarah born illegitimate in 1854 in Plaistow, her mother was Margaret Richards, and her mother was Sarah Davis, if you have any information that could help me I would be grateful, and if I can give you anything, I would love to hear from you.

Yvonne.

Ada's death certificate would state whether a Widow - also who was in attendance

Ancestry
When Richard PRESLEY aged 22 - occupation, Mason married Ada SWAN at Gloucester St Nicholas 31 October 1891 - his father was given as William PRESLEY, Gamekeeper

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Looking at Gloucestershirebdm

PRESLEY/mother's maiden name SWAN or SWANN

Elsie May - 1892, Gloucester St Nicholas
Ethel - 1894 - Gloucester St Nicholas
Gladys Beatrice - 1898 - Gloucester St Nicholas
George Richard - 1903 - Gloucester St Nicholas ****
Annice Elizabeth - 1905 - Gloucester St Nicholas ****
Christopher - 1909 - Gloucester Northern
Jessie - 1911 - Gloucester Northern
Benjamin - 1913 - Gloucester Northern

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Then Ancestry does have George PRESLEY'S War records: - Name: George PRESLEY ( discharged 4 August 1916
Medically Unfit (occupation, Engine Driver, born Tidenham, Chepstow) etc. etc. Gloucester Regiment (think the 5th)

Can't read his eye colour: Height 5'6 inches and Silver Grey Hair - seems to have had muscular rheumatism

address:

15 Barbican Road, Gloucester and names children

Hilda - born 3 June 01
George - 14 April 03
Annie Elizabeth - 2 May 05
Christopher - 10 May 09
Jessie - 10 August 11
Benjamin - 20 November 13

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Ancestry does have the marriage of George Richard PRESLEY - 4 August 1924 at St Paul's Gloucester - where his father is given as George Richard PRESLEY - Engine Driver : Witnesses, Thomas SWAN and Edith LLOYD

his sister Annice - father's name given as Richard George PRESLEY, Engine Driver…… Annice married at St Mary de Crypt, Gloucester 26 December 1925 - witnesses: George PRESLEY, Ethel PRESLEY

George Richard PRESLEY (the younger) has a very different signature on his marriage certificate - to George PRESLEY who witnessed Annice's wedding.

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Hello there,

I am starting to research my family history, in particular Sarah Legge and Arthur Presley, my great great grand parents. Please contact me if you are still using this forum.

Thank you

Emma Price