Samuel DUFTY b. abt 1861 d.1943 - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

I'm wondering if someone could provide advice regarding the DUFTY family. I've recently received the last will and testament of Samuel DUFTY which states that he was born in Forest-of-Dean. On this website I've managed to find the marriage record for his parents being Thomas DUFTY and Hannah Maria LEWIS m. 25 Dec 1860. I also have a passenger list for Thomas, Hannah Maria and Samual DOUGHTY leaving London on 12 Jun 1864, bound for New Zealand. Therefore I'm presuming that Samuel was born sometime between end of 1860 and mid-1864. However, I've not managed to find a birth record anywhere (including other websites) for Samuel.

FYI - To confuse matters around the same period there is another DUFTY family with the father also being Thomas with a son named Samuel that emigrated to New Zealand, the difference is the wife/mother being Louisa CRADDOCK (this as far as I can tell is no relation).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,
Kylie.

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Year: 1860
Month: May
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: DUFTY
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Whitecroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Dufty
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: HOOK
Brides_Forenames: Annis
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Whitecroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hook
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: William Hampton
Witness_2: Henry Gunter
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: [illegible] Ebsworth
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Incumbent
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 230
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1861 Whitecroft Row
William Dufty abt 1840 Bristol Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annis Dufty abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Dufty abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1841 ?
Martha Duffy abt 1781 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
James Duffy abt 1806 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
Richard Duffy abt 1816 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
Ann Duffy abt 1821 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
Henry Duffy abt 1826 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
John Duffy abt 1831 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
Thomas Duffy abt 1833 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset
William Duffy abt 1839 Somerset, England Bedminster, Somerset

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Name: Samuel Dufty
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 27

1861 Pillowell
Thomas Dugtty abt 1831 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Dugtty abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Of Lodger (Lodger) West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1860
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: DUFTY
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Whitecroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Dufty
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Horse dealer
Brides_Surname: LEWIS
Brides_Forenames: Hannah Maria
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Whitecroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Lewis
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Esau
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Charles Lewis
Witness_2: Henry Gunter
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: [illegible] Ebsworth
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Incumbent
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 236
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1851
Thomas Duffy abt 1836 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire Groom

1851
Esaw Lewis abt 1812 Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Lewis abt 1810 Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Lewis abt 1832 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Lewis abt 1835 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hester Lewis abt 1837 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Lewis abt 1838 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Lewis abt 1841 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Lewis abt 1843 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caroline Lewis abt 1844 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Lewis abt 1849 Beckley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Hannah Maria Lewis
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Thornbury
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 486

1851 West St ?
Martha Duffety abt 1780 Bedminster, Somerset, England Head Bedminster, Somerset
Richard Duffety abt 1813 Bedminster, Somerset, England Son Bedminster, Somerset
Ann Duffety abt 1821 Bedminster, Somerset, England Daughter Bedminster, Somerset
Henry Duffety abt 1826 Bedminster, Somerset, England Son Bedminster, Somerset
John Duffety abt 1832 Bedminster, Somerset, England Grandson Bedminster, Somerset
John H Duffety abt 1840 Bedminster, Somerset, England Grandson Bedminster, Somerset

James Dufty
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Event(s):
Birth: 05 JUN 1805
Christening: 27 SEP 1812 Bedminster, Somerset, England
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Parents:
Father: Thomas Dufty
Mother: Martha
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C001765 Film
Sheet:

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Thanks for that! I'm pretty sure that the Samuel b. 1862 is the right one. I managed to finally contact a Dufty in New Zealand that turns out to be the grandson of Samuel, who said that he was 2 years old when he arrived in NZ (emigrated 1864). I will see if the grandson has any paperwork to confirm birth date, otherwise I will order the record myself to see.

It turns out that this grandson also knew a great-great-uncle of mine who isn't related to the Dufty's, they were just mates...small world.

Thanks for looking up that stuff for me, some leads for me to follow up.

Another question...did the Dufty's originally come from Ireland do you think? Something I've been thinking about and Samuel's grandson also mentioned that the original spelling was DOUGHTY.

Cheers,
Kylie.

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The Irish link has to be considered

there are certainly Irish DUFFY families nearby

1891
Harriet Duffe abt 1817 Bath, Somerset, England Head Walcot, Somerset widow

1881 Weymouth St
Harriet Duffy abt 1816 Bath, Somerset, England Head Walcot, Somerset widow

1871
Harriett Duffy abt 1817 Bath, Somerset, England Widow Walcot, Somerset widow Coal dealer

Name: James Duffy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 43
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 497

1861
James Duffy abt 1808 Bath, Somerset, England Head Walcot, Somerset Coal Merchant and Ostler
Harriet Duffy abt 1817 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Walcot, Somerset

Name: Harriet Veater
Name: James Duffy
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 1103

1851
Hannah Veater abt 1775 Santon Drew, Somerset, England Head Walcot, Somerset Coal Merchant
Harriet Veater abt 1817 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Walcot, Somerset

1841
Hannah Veater abt 1776 Somerset, England Walcot, Somerset Coal dealer
Harriot Veater abt 1816 Somerset, England Walcot, Somerset

1841
Patrick Duffy abt 1791 Ireland Walcot, Somerset
Sarah Duffy abt 1791 Ireland Walcot, Somerset
James Duffy abt 1826 Walcot, Somerset
Elen Duffy abt 1831 Scotland Walcot, Somerset

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Hi
I have a Joseph Dufty Born C 1879 Died 15TH April 1944 married Annie Elizabeth James( baptised 31 Oct 1877 Bream )Married on the 4th January 1899 at Bream church. Parents were Joseph Dufty baptised 8th April 1838 at Parkend and Sarah Anne nee Worgan

JOSEPH DIED 15/4/1944 AGED 65 YRS. JOSEPH AND ANNIE WENT TO AMERICA THREE TIMES TO WORK IN THE MINES. THE FIRST TIME THEY DEPARTED LIVERPOOL ON THE SHIP LUSITANIA ON THE 5TH DECEMBER 1908 ARRIVING IN NEWYORK 12TH DECEMBER 1908.
THE SECOND TIME WAS DEPARTED LIVERPOOL ON THE SHIP MAURETANIA 12TH JULY 1913 AND ARRIVING IN NEW YORK 18TH JULY 1913. AND THE THIRD TIME WAS DEPARTED SOUTHAMPTON ON THE MAURETANIA THE 3RD AUGUST 1929 AND ARRIVING NEW YORK ON THE 8TH AUGUST 1929. IN 1913 THERE ADDRESS IN THE USA WAS GIVEN AS DOUGLAS TUCKER COUNTY WEST VIRGINIA.
Is this the same family?
Terry

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I'm not 100% sure if they're the same family. I've managed to contact a grandson of Samuel today and he knows a fair bit about the realtionships, so if he comes up with any of those names or dates I'll let you know.

Thanks,
Kylie.

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I have links to both Dufty and to Hannah Maria Lewis that married Thomas Dufty in 1860. I have so far not been able to link Thomas Dufty to the Dufty family that came from the Forest of Dean, I have his birth place as Bristol.
I would be willing to share what info I have on the Dufty family and the Lewis family if you are interested.
I do know that another Dufty family did leave the Forest of Dean and emigrated to New Zealand in 1862, they were Thomas and Louisa nee Craddock, they settled in New Zealand and had 8 children that I have found so far.
Nicky

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I think that stacks up Thomas appears to be from Bristol, Hannah Maria Lewis from Berkeley, living in West Dean in 1861, son Samuel born 1862 Pillowell

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I have been trying to discover the whereabouts of THOMAS and HANNAH DUFTY after the 1861 Census for some time. Now I know that they emigrated to New Zealand. Thanks for that information.

I am a descendant of Hannah's older sister, ELIZABETH SUSANNAH LEWIS, born in BERKELEY, GLOUCESTERSHIRE 1st May 1841, who married WILLIAM HAMPTON at Parkend 1st February 1963.

Are you aware that Hannah's sister JANE LEWIS, her husband, WILLIAM KEAR and their 5 children also emigrated to New Zealand, sailing on the 30th September 1876,arriving in New Zealand in January 1877 and settling initially in Christchurch?

I received this information from a descendant of JANE and WILLIAM who lives in the North Island of New Zealand.

I hope this information is of interest to you.

Regards Brenda

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Thanks Brenda, that is useful to me, I had wondered why I couldn't find Jane and William after the 1871 census! Will follow that lead up, many thanks.
I have quite a bit of info on the Lewis family, if you want any info please let me know.
Nicky

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Hello Nicky.

Thanks for your e.mail.
I am quite a novice at researching family history but I think that I have traced most of ESAU and SARAH LEWIS'S children except for HESTER/ESTHER LEWIS. I know that she married GEORGE WATKINS in 1856 at Parkend church and by 1861 had 2 children WILLIAM and SARAH JANE. Do you have any information about them? I wonder whether they moved to Wales possibly Monmouthshire.

With regard to JANE and WILLIAM KEAR I have been told that they sailed to New Zealand on the CARDIGAN CASTLE. They later moved to Australia but their daughter MARY stayed in New Zealand to marry JOHN HILL in 1881.

I shall be grateful for any information.

Regards Brenda

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I've just received the marriage certificate for Hannah Maria Dufty (nee Lewis) second marriage (in Thames, New Zealand). Please let me know if you'd like me to forward the info to you.

I also have New Zealand birth and death certificates for Sophia Dufty (daughter of Hannah Maria and Thomas Dufty). There were 2 daughters called Sophia born to Hannah and Thomas but I can't find the birth records to the second daughter so if anyone has any ideas that'd be great!

Many thanks,
Kylie.

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Hello

I am helping my cousin with her mother's side of the family. William Kear who married Jane Lewis 15 May 1859. Would be grateful for any information about the Lewis family. Jane Kear (nee Lewis) died 1909 at Glebe, NSW.
Can exchange further information about that line.

Cheers

Lyn
West Australia

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Would be grateful for any information about the Lewis family

Year: 1859
Month: May
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: KEAR
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Mason
Grooms_Residence: Whitecroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Kear
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Mason
Brides_Surname: LEWIS
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Whitecroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Lewis
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Esau
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of James Dobbs
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Rudge
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: [illegible] Ebsworth
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Incumbent
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 216
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1841
Evan Linis abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Ann Lewis abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Charles Lewis abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Hester Lewis abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Jane Lewis abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Lewis abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Berkeley, Gloucestershire

NAME: Jane Lewis BAPTISED: 9 Jan 1839 at Berkeley

FATHER: Esau MOTHER: Sarah
OCCUPATION: Labourer ABODE: Berkeley

MARRIAGE: 20 Nov 1831 at Berkeley

GROOM BRIDE
NAME: Esau Lewis Sarah Griffin
ABODE: Berkeley Berkeley

WITNESSES: George Lewis Sarah Lewis, Henry Clarke

ESAU LEWIS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 NOV 1810 Slimbridge, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: GEORGE LEWIS
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C054891 1571 - 1812 0427773 Film 6911983 Film
Sheet: 00

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That was very quick - thank you. Yes this is the right one. Just discovered Esau's wife Sarah Griffin. Your information is spot on...

Thanks again.

Lyn
West Australia

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Hi Lyn

Once again thanks to Slowhands :-) you sound like you're on your way. I have some more info on Esau Lewis and am happy to provide what I have. I don't have a lot on Jane so I'd be interested to exhange info. If you would like to send me an email my addy is [Deleted by admin - see Posting Guidelines].

Thanks,
Kylie.

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An earlier post said that William and Jane sailed with their 5 children to New Zealand. This can't be correct, unless my information is wrong. I'm currently trying to get birth certificates to verify my information. As far as I know the oldest child Oliver Kear sailed to America alone on the Abyssinia. He arrived 12 May 1880. This is how I am related to William and Jane(Lewis)Kear.

Paul Gottlieb Kear- born Nov.4,1978,
Father-Richard Nathan Kear, born-Dec.17,1952(Wife-Elise Arthur)
Grandfather-William Sylva Kear Jr., born-Nov.18,1919(Wife-Evelyn Rosales)
Great Grandfather-William Thomas Kear, born-Nov.11,1892(Wife-Lorenzo P.Sylva)
G,Great Grandfather-Oliver Kear, born- abt 1855/1860(Wife-Rachel Hamlin)
G,G,G, Grandfather-William Kear, born-March 2,1836(Wife-Jane Lewis)
G,G,G,G,Grandfather-William Kear,born-1817 (Wife-Elizabeth Hatton)
G,G,G,G,G,Grandfather-Thomas Kear,Born ? (Wife Hariet Griffiths)

Paul

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FOD records

Baptism at Parkend - 6 July 1859

Parents Surname: LEWIS

Child Forenames: Oliver

Father's Forenames: (not stated)

Mother's name: JANE

Residence: Whitecroft

Occupation: Single Woman

(Jane LEWIS/William KEAR married 15 May 1859!!)

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FreeBDM: Birth: April/May/June Qtr 1859 Monmouth - Oliver KEAR
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1861 Census, West Dean

Whitecroft No. 30

Joseph DUFTY - Head, 53, Coal Miner, born Glos West Dean
Ann - 50
Martha - 21
Corah/Sarah - 14
Annis - 11

then next door but one

William KEAR - Head/ Mar 24, Stone Mason, born Glos Awre
Jane - 22 - born Glos. Berkeley
Oliver Kear - Son - 2 - born West Dean

then this in the same household...... with this quote

'This family entered the house after the paper was delivered'

HOOK

George - 37 - Coal Miner, born West Dean
Isabella - 22
George - 3
Sam - 4 months

(The 4 surnames all in previous threads)

1871 Census, West Dean Pillowell

KEAR

William - 34 Mason, born Blakeney
Jane - 31 - born Berkeley
Oliver - 11
Fanny - 9
Mary - 7
Sarah Ann - 3
George KEAR, Brother - 15

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Hi Paul
The info I've scratched together does point to a William and Jane Kear and their family leaving the forest and going to NZ. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/CardiganCastle.htm
This William Kear appears in NZ electroral rolls up until 1880-1881, he is then recorded in Glebe, New South Wales in 1888 in his daughter Fanny's marriage announcement. Mary (daughter born in West Dean in 1863) is recorded as remaining and marrying in NZ, and she is said to be the only one who remained in NZ. I haven't yet found a record for the family crossing the Tasman so I can't say for sure who went over to Australia, but this is not uncommon at that time. There is a record of an Oliver Kear marrying in New South Wales and a death record in NSW that states his parents as William and Jane.
I'm not a direct descendent of William and Jane so others probably have more definitive info.
Good luck sorting out the puzzle and look forward to knowing how you get on.
Kylie.

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