The 1910 USA census lists a Jobe Carpenter,56, coal miner born in England, who immigrated in 1881, in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. With him is a wife Susannah who also immigrated in 1881.

Hi Gwenn,
please can you add whatever extra info you have about these people, ie time and place ?.
I have searched both this site's PRs and GlosBMD without finding any Edwin John Carpenter at all, altho I have found an Edwin James Carpenter marrying in Cinderford in 1915. I've also searched FreeBMD but none of the Edwin John (or James!) Carpenters listed (before 1911) marry an Anne. After 1911 that site doesn't include full second names, so he could be any one of several "Edwin J Carpenter"s listed after that. I cannot easily find him in any prior threads on this forum.

From FreeBMD here's the marriage record which you've found, which at least points towards a time and place, being relatively recent means there will be less records available;

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1963 (>99%)

CARPENTER ANNE [E-] WEYMAN ST.ALBANS 4B 487
WEYMAN FREDERICK J CARPENTER ST.ALBANS 4B 487

From the record image I think she is definitely "Anne E"
The other FreeBMD records suggest Frederick was not born near Gloucestershire or even the West Country.

So if you have any more info it would help, please, thanks.

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UPDATE:

Looking at all the FreeBMD marriage records for all the Edwin J Carpenters post 1911, I now find this record which MAY be your Anne, but needs further work to be sure. Don't know why my search earlier didnt spot this, sorry !

Surname First name(s) Mother/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)

Brooks Jesse Reading 2c 807
Carpenter Edwin J Reading
Goddard Bertha Reading 2c 807
Squires Annie E Reading 2c 807

FreeBMD shows birth records for several! Anne E and Annie E Squires in the likely 1880-1890 era, none are from our area at all, or Reading for that matter.
This also places some doubt on the 1963 Marriage Record being for our Anne aged 65+

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IMPORTANT FURTHER UPDATE AND APOLOGY !

Clearly havinbg a bad day here, despite my "reading" the earlier posts in this thread I didn't see this rather obvious clue, SORRY Gwenn !

The 1881 Census tells us that his wife Caroline and 3 children were in the Workhouse at Westbury on Severn:

Caroline CARPENTER Other M Female 28 Forest of Dean Domestic Servant
Mary Jane CARPENTER Other Female 4 Forest of Dean
Edwin John CARPENTER Other Male 2 Westbury on Severn
Rose Matilda CARPENTER Other Female 3 m Westbry on Severn

I cannot find his Birth record c1879 on FreeBMD, including searching "male Carpenter" etc.
Apart from confirming the above 1881 Census record, the usually helpful FamilySearch site doesn't give any more hard clues that I can find, apart from suggesting an "Edwin John Carpenter born England c1875" and his wife (not Annie) migrated to Canada in 1920.

Sorry for my confusion, busy day here, I'll try and revisit this again this evening.
J

This does not appear to be straightforward. First of all Edwin was registered and baptised as Edward:

Births Mar 1879
Carpenter Edward John Westbury S. 6a 280

Year: 1879
Month: Jan
Day: 29
Parents_Surname: CARPENTER
Child_Forenames: Edward John
Fathers_Forenames: Job
Mothers_Forenames: Caroline
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Cinderford Workhouse
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Chris Jay Jones Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 183
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

In 1891 he is with his William Byett and his mother as follows:

Ruspidge
Given Name Surname Relationship Gender Age Estimated Birth Year Birth City or District Birth County Birth Country
William Byett Head Male 40 1851 Soudley, Glos
Caroline Byett Wife Female 35 1856 St Briavels Gloucestershire England
William Byett Son Male 17 1874 Ruspidge
Edwin Byett Son Male 12 1879 Ruspidge
Jane Byett Daughter Female 13 1878 Ruspidge
Eliza Byett Daughter Female 13 1878 Ruspidge
Clara Byett Daughter Female 7 1884 Ruspidge
Henry Byett Son Male 5 1886 Ruspidge
John Byett Son Male 3 1888 Ruspidge
George Byett Son Male 2 1889 Ruspidge
Phillip Byett Son Male 8/12 1890 Ruspidge

Moving on to 1901 we find the Byett family still in Ruspidge:
Household Number Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
68 William Byett Head 50 1851 Male Soudley, Gloucestershire, England
68 Caraline Byett Wife 46 1855 Female St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England
68 Clara Byett Daughter 17 1884 Female Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England
68 Harry Byett Son 15 1886 Male Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England
68 John Byett Son 13 1888 Male Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England

On the same page is this couple:
Household Number Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
65 Edward J Carpenter Head 22 1879 Male Westbury on Severn
65 Mary A Carpenter Wife 21 1880 Female Shipley, Yorkshire, England

and it would appear that Edward married in Yorkshire:
Marriages Sep 1900
Carpenter Edward John Bradford, Y. 9b 90
Holmes Mary Ann Bradford, Y. 9b 90

Births Sep 1879
Holmes Mary Ann Bradford, Y. 9b 224

We then move on to 1911 and find Mary Ann back in Shipley but Edward is missing:
1911 Census:
3 Taylor St Shipley, Shipley, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Mann Head Married Male Platelayer Mid Rly 50 1861 Goote Yorks
Florence Mann Wife Married Female - 34 1877 Shipley Yorks
John Mann Son - Male - 9 1902 Shipley Yorks
Walter Mann Son - Male - 7 1904 Shipley Yorks
Norman Mann Son - Male - 4 1907 Shipley Yorks
Mary Ann Carpenter Boarder Married Female Woolcomber 32 1879 Shipley Yorks
Eric Carpenter Son - Male - 7 1904 Ruspidge Glouce
Alice Carpenter Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Bingley Yorks
Florence Mann Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Shipley Yorks

A search of GRO Index finds the following births:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: :
CARPENTER, ERIC EDWARD HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 163
CARPENTER, GEORGE CALBERT HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 700

CARPENTER, ALICE HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume 06A Page 300
CARPENTER, MAUD HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume 06A Page 297
CARPENTER, OLIVE HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 668
CARPENTER, ROSE ELSIE HOLMES
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG Volume 07A Page 653

Finding Edward John in 1911 is proving a problem. This is the nearest match:

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Tom Kerry Head Married Male Colliery Lamp Cleaner Above Ground 31 1880 Derbycounty Stanley Parish Transcription
Mary Ann Kerry Wife Married Female - 35 1876 Nottingham Transcription
Mary Ann Kerry Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Derby County Stanley Parish Transcription
Edna May Kerry Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Derby County Stanley Parish Transcription
Iris Kerry Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Derby County Stanley Parish Transcription
Harriett Kerry Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Derby County Stanley Parish Transcription
Edward Carpenter Boarder Single Male Miner 30 1881 Gloucester County West Dean

Edward John is listed in the Electoral Register in 1904 at Ruspidge
1904
Cinderford Ruspidge 1904 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Edward John Carpenter 1904 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England

This together with the 1911 Census for Mary Ann suggest that they parted company.

We next find Edward in the 1927 Electoral Register and this gives us the full forenames of his then wife/partner

Gloucestershire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1974
Forest of Dean 1927
Edward John Carpenter 1927 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lower Ruspidge, Cinderford
Ann Victoria Carpenter 1927 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lower Ruspidge, Cinderford

Next we find them in the 1939 Register:
1939 Register
Carpenter Household (2 People)
74 Ruspidge Road , East Dean R.D., Gloucestershire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Edward J Carpenter 02 Jan 1879 Male Coal Hewer Heavy Worker Married 208 1
Anne V Weyman (Carpenter) 07 Mar 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 208 2

Edward dies in 1946
Year: 1946
Month: Jul
Day: 11
Surname: CARPENTER
Forenames: Edward John
Residence: 74 Ruspidge R[oa]d Cinderford
Age_at_death: 68 years
Officiating_Minister: A E Follows Methodist Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: 23/46 written in margin
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/16
Page_No: 6
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

and Anne marries in 1950:

Marriages Dec 1950
Carpenter Anne V Weyman F.of Dean 7b 697
Weyman Maurice CARPENTER F. of Dean 7b 697

Ann dies in 1992

Name: Ann Victoria Weyman
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1887
Date of Registration: May 1992
Age at Death: 105
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1777

This does not provide Ann(e)'s maiden name and we continue our searches.

Mike