Joseph TROTTER born abt 1800 Ross Hereford (General)

by sarah jane @, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 03:26 (5594 days ago)

I have been trying to trace this side of the family for about ten years now and have had not much luck with this fellow. What i do know is that he married Mary FISHPOOL and had two children that i know of Ebenezer TROTTER born abt 1829 in south wales and Mary TROTTER born in Coleford 1825(thanks to this website I did find this birth) Now Josephs father was James Trotter whose wife was Mary LANE and I have their marriage in Linton in 1778.What I am wondering is if the other Trotters in coleford are any relation to mine , I have tried to connect them but there seems to be gaps. Joseph and Mary came out to Australia in 1852 with their children Ebenezer and Mary where I found that Ebenezer`s occupation was Jeweller/watchmaker.I have found this on the census aswell 1841,1851.
This is about all I know but still have many unanswered questions

Joseph TROTTER 1800 Ross and family

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 08:14 (5593 days ago) @ sarah jane

The early Baptist records might prove difficult tracking down...

1851 Ryecroft St Gloucester
Joseph Trotter abt 1801 Ross, Herefordshire, England Head Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire Builder
Mary Trotter abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Wife Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire
Elenza Trotter abt 1829 Pengathley Nk, Wales Son Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire Watchmaker
Mary Trotter abt 1831 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire

Is Ebenezer from Pengethley , nr Peterstow, Ross on Wye Herefordshire - makes some sense !

1841 Barton Terrace Gloucester
Joseph Inotter abt 1801 St Mary de Lode, Gloucestershire Contractor
Mary Inotter abt 1791 St Mary de Lode, Gloucestershire
Mary Inotter abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England St Mary de Lode, Gloucestershire Milliner
Ebenezer Inotter abt 1827 St Mary de Lode,


Year: 1825
Month: Apr
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: TROTTER
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Nicholson (Church Officer
Event: Birth
Memoranda:
Notes: The Minister (Baptist Protestant dissenting) signs after a sentence in which he declares he was present at the birth on the date given. This is a record of Birth not Baptism
Register_Reference: D 2722 13
Page_Number: 84
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Baptist

Year 1823
Month Jan
Day 3
Parents Surname TROTTER
Child Forenames George
Fathers Forenames Joseph
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence [not stated]
Occupation
Officiating Minister Tho[ma]s Nicholson (Church Officer
Event Birth
Memoranda
Notes The Minister (Baptist Protestant dissenting) signs after a sentence in which he declares he was present at the birth on the date given. This is a record of Birth not Baptism
Register Reference D 2722 13
Page Number 72
Parish Chapel Coleford Baptist


Year 1819
Month Aug
Day 1
Parents Surname TROTTER
Child Forenames Joseph
Fathers Forenames Joseph
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence [not stated]
Occupation
Officiating Minister Tho[ma]s Nicholson (Church Officer
Event Birth
Memoranda
Notes The Minister (Baptist Protestant dissenting) signs after a sentence in which he declares he was present at the birth on the date given. This is a record of Birth not Baptism
Register Reference D 2722 13
Page Number 57
Parish Chapel Coleford Baptist

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Year: 1818
Month: Jun
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: TROTTEN
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: FISHPOOL
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Weale
Witness_2: Martha Fishpool
Other_Witnesses: E Close
Officiating_Minister: R M Manwaring Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P154/6 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 10
Parish_Chapel: Gloucester St Aldate

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Joseph TROTTER 1800 Ross and family

by sarah jane @, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:34 (5593 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks slowhands for your reply.
Yes Ebenezer was apparently born in Pengethley,but I haven`t been able to find any birth record of this.His father ,Joseph, was a city pavier as stated in the 1842 Pigots directory of Gloucestershire Address Ryecroft Street. Would this job mean that he would have to had to travel , hence the children not being born in the same place and no trce of his extended family ?
I have a copy of Josephs death certificate 1888 in geelong Australia and on that it states that his father was James Trotter,malster ,and his mother was Mary Lane. This sort of makes sence as there were other Trotters in Coleford area who where also Malsters but no James Trotter. Who knows????
I found a census record on find my past web site for 1841 that shows that Joseph,Mary ,ebenezer and Mary in the rego district of Glouster Union.The estimated birth years seem to be right . Is this the same record that you sent me?

Ebenezer TROTTER born abt 1829 Pengethley nr Ross

by belindagraham @, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 11:35 (4397 days ago) @ sarah jane

Hello
I am a descendant of Ebenezer Trotter. His son Harry Trotter was my great grandfather. I am tracing Ebenezer's history as I am coming to The UK in September and wanted to see where he came from. Ebenezer came to Australia with his mother and father in 1852 to Geelong on The Mercurius. Ebenezer married Mary Elizabeth Dear in Geelong and had 11 or 12 children (not sure on one of them Ern?) They moved to a gold mining town called Steiglitz where they died and are buried there. Ebenezer's parents are not mentioned in the graveyard of Steiglitz (there are 2), so maybe they stayed in Geelong which is not very far from Steiglitz.

Pengethley nr Ross

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 11:45 (4397 days ago) @ belindagraham

Hello
I am a descendant of Ebenezer Trotter. His son Harry Trotter was my great grandfather. I am tracing Ebenezer's history as I am coming to The UK in September and wanted to see where he came from. Ebenezer came to Australia with his mother and father in 1852 to Geelong on The Mercurius. Ebenezer married Mary Elizabeth Dear in Geelong and had 11 or 12 children (not sure on one of them Ern?) They moved to a gold mining town called Steiglitz where they died and are buried there. Ebenezer's parents are not mentioned in the graveyard of Steiglitz (there are 2), so maybe they stayed in Geelong which is not very far from Steiglitz.

map
http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO5425

aerial photo
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/442032


photo on main road
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2833654

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Pengethley nr Ross

by belindagraham @, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 12:05 (4397 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks heaps

James TROTTER marriage 1778 Ross/Linton

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 12:21 (4397 days ago) @ sarah jane

Thanks slowhands for your reply.
I have a copy of Josephs death certificate 1888 in geelong Australia and on that it states that his father was James Trotter,malster ,and his mother was Mary Lane. This sort of makes sence as there were other Trotters in Coleford area who where also Malsters but no James Trotter. Who knows????

baptist / Maltser family -grand father perhaps ?

Brampton Abbotts just outside Ross , on the right side for Pengethley
http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO6026

Year 1778
Month Apr
Day 20
Grooms Surname TROTTER
Grooms Forenames James
Grooms Age
Groom Condition
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence Brampton Abbots
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname LANE
Brides Forenames Mary
Brides Age
Brides Condition
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Linton
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1
Witness 2
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference AR91/6
Page Number
Parish Chapel Linton

Year 1792
Month Jan
Day 24
Parents Surname TROTTER
Child Forenames Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Mary
Mothers Surname
Residence Ryeford
Occupation Malster
Officiating Minister
Event Birth
Memoranda dau of
Notes Date given is date of birth
Register Reference Book 11B
Page Number 39
Parish Chapel Ryeford Baptist

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Joseph TROTTER born abt 1800 Ross Hereford

by djones @, Rhondda Valley, Glamorgan, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 09:31 (5593 days ago) @ sarah jane

Could these be related ?

John Trotter marriage to Elizabeth Hardy
30 October 1827 Birmingham Warwick

Thomas Hardy Trotter 15/3/1829 St Philips Birmingham
John Brit Trotter 25/3/1834 at St Philips Birmingham
Charles Hardy Trotter 27/1/1835 St Philips Birmingham

Death John Trotter age 31 burial 31/3/1835 at St Marys Whittal Street Birmingham Warwick Anglican Church

i dont know how but the boys also appear on the noneconformist register at Coleford Baptist.

There is also a Joseph William Trotter.

Thomas Hardy Trotter was the 1st husband of my great grandmother Mary Ann Meek.


David

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Rhondda Valley Boy

Joseph TROTTER born abt 1800 Ross Hereford

by sarah jane @, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:40 (5593 days ago) @ djones

Hi djones
Yes I have wondered the same thing myself and have tried to piece so many different Trotters together but to date have had no success. Josephs father was a James Trotter and he was a malster and have tried to connect him and Joseph to the Trotters from Coleford area thinking that they must be related some how. My thoughts are now that they must be cousins or nieces and nephews to one of them.

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