Wilce and Morgan families

Hi everyone,

My wife is a grand-daughter of Damaris Aubrey Wilce. Here's all the info (so far). If anyone can help flesh things out that would be fantastic. Her name lives on in our daughter Damaris Aubrey Fire Storm (born 2004).

cheers,

Gary

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Info on Damaris Aubrey Wilce (probably didn't like the original spelling as everyone knew her as Damaris Aubrey but

she was actually born Damoris Aubery):

Born:
Wilce, Damoris Aubery. Pontypridd. 11a 772. Registered in April/May/June 1910. Born 22 April 1910.

Parents:
Tom (1877) & Mary Wilce (nee Morgan) (1878)
Tom was a Collier (coal-miner).
We believe the family are originally from Gloucestershire. We think a relative ran a pub there (The Crown Inn near Cinderford), before moving to Wales. Tom later went back to run the pub until it shut in the early 1920's (???).
In the 1911 Census, they have three boarders where they live in Pontypridd. Mary is 28 and Tom is 36.
Mary Morgan's parents may have owned a farm in Gloucestershire (Monmouthshire).

Siblings:
Lydie Mary born in 1900 first child died
Tom 1912
Eve Anne 1913
Cavel 1915
Avis B 1919
Graham M 1921 (Wilce, Graham M. Mothers maiden: Morgan. Pontypridd. 11a 1496 (april/may/june 1921)

Marriage:
John Gilbert Pearce 1929. Pontypridd. 11a 1253. (oct/nov/dec).

Children:
Anthony Gilbert Pearce
Sandra Pearce (now Sandra Cross). Currently Southampton.
Paul Raymond Pearce
Micheal Robin Pearce (my wife's Dad). Currently Perth, Australia.
Gilbert Pearce. Currently Southampton.
Dolores Pearce. Currently Southampton.
Barry Pearce. Currently Southampton.
Neville Willis Pearce. Currently Southampton.

Death:
Bronchial pneumonia (after 1 week). 1st of September 1946. County Mental Hospital Roundway. Getting some more information from the hospital. They did say that on the records she was only in the Mental Hospital for 2 days and she died (was transferred from Salisbury clinic). She was very weak and thin but refused to eat any food. Sounds to us like she may have had depression and wanted to die??
Buried at St John's Church, Church Hill, Shaftesbury.

After Damaris' death, John married Emily Elizabeth (don't know maiden name), and had:
Jean Pearce

Pearce, John Gilbert. Died 1976, S'ton.

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I am Gary Storm (born 07/07/1969, Perth, Australia).
My wife is Mandyleigh Storm (born 27/05/1972, Southampton).
We have three children:
Damaris Aubrey Fire Storm (born 21/05/2004, Maidstone, Kent).
Zyah Violet Snow Storm (born 12/09/2005, Perth, Australia).
Zeth Micheal Thunder Storm (born 05/05/2008 Perth, Australia).
www.mandyleigh.com

please contact thestormz@gmail.com for any other information and also photo's to share.

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The best resource I have found to date is this brilliant site by Graham Chamberlain (Wilce heritage):

http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy/index.php

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Thanks to Grahams site, here is the direct lineage to Damaris. A couple of her siblings names are different to what we thought they were. *** represents the direct ancestor:

William Wills
B: Est 1615

John Wilse
B: Est May 1640
M: Bef 1676
D: Dec 1711
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Katherine
B: Bef 1660
M: Bef 1676
D: 1718
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Children:
• William Wilse
• John Wilts, Jnr.
• Thomas Wilse***

Thomas Wilse
B: Est Sep 1680
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
M: Bef 1716
D: 9 Apr 1749
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Hannah Terrett
B: Est Mar 1691
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
M: Bef 1716
Children:
• Richard Wilse
• Thomas Wilce***
• John Wilce
• William Wilse

Thomas Wilce
B: Jan 1716/17
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
D: Sep 1773
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Ann Edy
B: Est Oct 1724
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Children:
• Thomas Wilce***
• Hanah Wilce
• John Wilce
• Richard Wilce
• George Wilce
• Jonathan Wilce
• William Wilce
• James Wilce

Thomas Wilce
B: Est Jul 1747
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
M: 1 Jan 1780
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
D: Jul 1813
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Mary Taylor
B: Est 1755
M: 1 Jan 1780
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
D: Est Aug 1809
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Children:
• Betty Wilce
• Richard Wilce
• Thomas Wilce***
• Hannah Wilce
• Nancy Wilce
• John Wilce
• Mary Wilce
• Jane Wilce
• Sarah Wilce

Thomas Wilce
B: Est Dec 1781
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
M: Yes, date unknown
Family:
Married:Mary
B: Bef 1785
M: Yes, date unknown
Children:
• John Wilce***
• James Wilce
• Mary Ann Wilce
• Elizabeth Wilce
• Edmund Wilce

John Wilce
B: Est Jan 1805
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Ann Jordan
B: Abt 1785
Gloucestershire, UK
M: 29 Apr 1823
Walford, Herefordshire, UK
Children:
• Saba Wilce
• John Wilce
• Isaac Wilce***

Isaac Wilce
B: Est Nov 1827
Drybrook, Gloucestershire, UK
D: Jun 1889
Drybrook, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Elizabeth James
B: Est 1829
Linton, Herefordshire, UK
M: 1 Feb 1848
Drybrook, Gloucestershire, UK
D: Jun 1872
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Children:
• John Isaac Wilce***
• Joseph Wilce
• Sophia Wilce
• George Wilce
• Eliza Wilce
• Mary Wilce

John Isaac Wilce
B: 30 Nov 1848
Drybrook, Gloucestershire, UK
D: 21 Jan 1924
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Sarah Ann Goode
B: Abt 1850
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
M: 27 Feb 1870
Cinderford, Gloucestershire, UK
D: 1903
Children:
• Albert John Goode Wilce
• Joseph Wilce
• George Wilce
• Emma Elizabeth Wilce
• Tom Wilce***
• John Wilce

Tom Wilce
B: Est Jan 1877
Ruardean, Gloucestershire, UK
Family:
Married:Mary Morgan
B: Abt 1880
M: 2 Jul 1899
Walford, Herefordshire, UK
D: Abt 1927
Children:
• Vivian Thomas Wilce
• Living
• Tom Wilce
• Annie E. Wilce
• Melinda Cavell Wilce
• Living
• Graham M. Wilce

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one of your missing "pieces"

Name: John G Pearce
Spouse : Emily E Rockhill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Registration district: Southampton
Registration county (inferred): Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1145

there have been many WILCE discussion here - one example is Isaac :-

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=11701

GrahamC also visits but is not Anghutch

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=13604
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=13552

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Yep, that's her Grandad. Cheers :)

So he waited 3 or so years before re-marrying. Cheers for the surname of Emily. She had alot of kids to keep under control so would have a list ready of who had been naughty for John Gilbert Pearce when he got home from work. He would then go to the bed of whoever was on the list and give them a huge beating.

I've been through the forum and as much Wilce info as I can find. I'd love to know more info (from family stories and pics) about Tom Wilce's and Mary Morgan's families if possible.

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Year: 1877
Month: Jan
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: WILCE
Child_Forenames: Tom
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: A.F.Burgoyne Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC109 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 72
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1881
John Wilce abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Wilce abt 1850 Ruardean Hill Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Goode Wilce abt 1869 Ruardean Hill Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Wilce abt 1873 Ruardean Hill Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma E. Wilce abt 1875 Ruardean Hill Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Wilce abt 1877 Ruardean Hill Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
John Wille abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Wille abt 1850 Ruardean Hill East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Wille abt 1873 Ruardean Hill East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Wille abt 1877 Ruardean Hill East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Wille abt 1886 Ruardean Hill East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1899
Month: Jul
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: WILCE
Grooms_Forenames: Tom
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Ruardean Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Wilce
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MORGAN
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Servant
Brides_Residence: Walford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Morgan
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: John Wilce
Witness_2: Mark of Sarah Ann Wilce
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Kentish Bache Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/11
Page_Number: 207
Parish_Chapel: Walford

1901
Tom Wilce abt 1877 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary D Wilce abt 1881 Hope Mansel, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Damoris Aubrey Wilce
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 772

1911
WILCE TOM M 1877 34 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
WILCE MARY F 1883 28 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
WILCE DAMORIS AUBREY F 1889 UNDER 21 12 MON Pontypridd Glamorganshire

Name: Damaris A Wilce
Spouse :John G Pearce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1253

Name: Tom Wilce
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Morgan
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1362

Name: Annie E Wilce
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Morgan
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1474

Name: Melinda C Wilce
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Morgan
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1245

Name: Avice B Wilce
Mother's Maiden Surname: Morgan
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1919
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1265

Name: Graham M Wilce
Mother's Maiden Surname: Morgan
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1921
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1496

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Year: 1839
Month: Jan
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Ellen
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J. Chell
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daugh[ter] of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 106
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

1841
James Morgan abt 1811 Walford, Herefordshire Ag Lab
Ann Morgan abt 1811 Walford, Herefordshire
Thomas Morgan abt 1820 Walford, Herefordshire
Eliza Morgan abt 1829 Walford, Herefordshire
John Morgan abt 1831 Walford, Herefordshire
Sophia Morgan abt 1832 Walford, Herefordshire
Henery Morgan abt 1833 Walford, Herefordshire
James Morgan abt 1833 Walford, Herefordshire
Miles Morgan abt 1834 Walford, Herefordshire
Wm Morgan abt 1837 Walford, Herefordshire
Ellin Morgan abt 1839 Walford, Herefordshire
George Morgan abt 1840 Walford, Herefordshire

1851 Howl Hill
James Morgan abt 1806 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Walford, Herefordshire
Anne Morgan abt 1806 Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England Wife Walford, Herefordshire
William Morgan abt 1839 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire
Ellen Morgan abt 1840 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire
George Morgan abt 1841 Walford, Herefordshire, England Son Walford, Herefordshire
Anne Morgan abt 1844 Walford, Herefordshire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire

Year: 1859
Month: Mar
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Laborer
Grooms_Residence: Walford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Morgan
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Publican
Brides_Surname: WHITTINGHAM
Brides_Forenames: Emma
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Walford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Whittingham
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Daniel
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Laborer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: James Baldwin
Witness_2: Ellen Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Arthur Stonhouse Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/11
Page_Number: 105
Parish_Chapel: Walford

1861
William Morgan abt 1841 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Morgan abt 1842 Walford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Morgan abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Garndiffaith
William Morgan 32 Ruardean
Emma Morgan 33 Walford
Thomas Morgan 10 Walford
Miles Morgan 8 Walford
William Morgan 2 Trevethin
Theresa Morgan 1 month Trevethin

Year: 1880
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hope Mansel
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: C A Borrer Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Nov 11 1880
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG68/6
Page_Number: 90
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell

1881
William Morgan abt 1839 Walford, Hereford, England Head Hope Mansell, Herefordshire Coalminer
Emma Morgan abt 1842 Walford, Hereford, England Wife Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Miles Morgan abt 1863 Walford, Hereford, England Son Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
William Morgan abt 1869 Garndiffaith, Wales Son Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Teresa Morgan abt 1871 Garndiffaith, Wales Daughter Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Agnes Morgan abt 1875 Garndiffaith, Wales Daughter Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Emma Morgan abt 1877 Garndiffaith, Wales Daughter Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Clara Morgan abt 1879 Garndiffaith, Wales Daughter Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Mary Morgan Garndiffaith, Wales Daughter Hope Mansell, Herefordshire

1891
Wm Morgan abt 1835 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head Walford, Herefordshire
Emma Morgan abt 1839 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife Walford, Herefordshire
Terisa Morgan abt 1871 Garndiffuith, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Walford, Herefordshire
Clara Morgan abt 1878 Garndiffuith, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Walford, Herefordshire
Mary Morgan abt 1881 Hope Mansel, Herefordshire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire
Laura Morgan abt 1884 Hope Mansel, Herefordshire, England Daughter Walford, Herefordshire

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Year 1792
Month
Day
Grooms Surname MORGAN
Grooms Forenames William
Grooms Age [not stated]
Groom Condition [not stated]
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence living on land adjoining to this parish
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname JONES
Brides Forenames Bertha
Brides Age [not stated]
Brides Condition [not stated]
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence living on land adjoining to this parish
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns
Date of Banns 1792 Jul
Signature or Mark
Witness 1
Witness 2
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister D.P.Davis
Event Banns
Memoranda
Notes only month and year given
Register Reference P138 IN 1/6
Page Number 87
Parish Chapel English Bicknor

Year: 1804 ?????
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Bathia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

then a James and Maria

Year: 1825
Month: May
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Ruardean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: EVANS
Brides_Forenames: Maria
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: English Bicknor
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Esaias [illegible]
Witness_2: Mark of Sophia Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: T D Fosbrooke Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Year: 1835
Month: Mar
Day: 1
Surname: MORGAN
Forenames: Maria
Residence: Ruardean
Age_at_death: 31 years
Officiating_Minister: N N Cazalet Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: wife of James
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/12
Page_No: 77
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

off spring include :-
Year: 1830
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Sophia
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruerdean [Ruardean]
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 67
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

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Cheers guys,

I'm still trying to learn how to read and make sense of all this, so bear with me :)

I have another descendant of Mary Morgan on the case as well, and he's even managed to get hold of her DNA tests (!). He'll probably post here soon too. His name is Keith Wilce-Davies, son of Melinda Cavell Wilce.

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