1911 Census, Wales, Monmouthshire, English Bicknor - 3 Viaduct Terrace, Lydbrook, Ross

living in 2 rooms

Henry Mostyn JONES - age 27 - Lodger, Boarder, Single - Baptist Minister, born Flintshire, Llansasa? Parish

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Trying to make some sense of rev henry Mostyn Jones's time in Lydbrook.My mother born there in 1916,but cant find any trace of her in records.Also, she had a brother who died from TB,would like to find out where hes buried.

Are these records possibly yours ? dont forget the non-conformist dimension
to your family...

Name: Henry M Jones
Spouse : Emily K Reynolds
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: Swansea
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1717

Name: Mary E M Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Reynolds
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 786

Mary E Megan JONES 1916 Lydbrook?

Name: Megan Mary E Goodwin
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1916
Date of Registration: Jun 2005
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Wrekin
Inferred County: Shropshire
Register Number: 42B
District and Subdistrict: 716/1B
Entry number: 242

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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Llanasa/index.html

1891
Elizabeth Smedley abt 1822 Whitford, Flintshire, Wales Head Whitford, Flintshire
Mary Smedley abt 1836 Whitford, Flintshire, Wales Wife Whitford, Flintshire
Sarah Smedley abt 1862 Whitford, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Whitford, Flintshire
Edward Jones abt 1883 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Grandson Whitford, Flintshire
Henry Jones abt 1885 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Grandson Whitford, Flintshire

1901
John Jones abt 1863 Whitford, Flintshire, Wales Head Llanasa, Montgomeryshire
Mary Jones abt 1860 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Wife Llanasa, Montgomeryshire
Henry Jones abt 1888 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Son Llanasa, Montgomeryshire
Maria Jones abt 1893 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Llanasa, Montgomeryshire
John T Jones abt 1895 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Son Llanasa, Montgomeryshire
Elizabeth A Jones abt 1900 Llanasa, Flintshire, Wales Daughter Llanasa, Montgomeryshire

1911 3 Viaduct Terrace Lydbrook Ross
Henry Mostyn Jones 27 Baptist Minister Llanasa Flintshire

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Name: Emily Kate Reynolds
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district: Carmarthen
Inferred County: Carmarthenshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 1047

1901
George W Reynolds abt 1865 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Briton Ferry, Glamorgan Mason
Charlotte Reynolds abt 1866 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Annie Reynolds abt 1892 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daughter Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Clifford Reynolds abt 1894 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Son Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
George Reynolds abt 1895 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Son Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Emily K Reynolds abt 1896 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daughter Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Gwendoline Reynolds abt 1899 Briton-Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Gwladys Reynolds abt 1900 Briton-Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Harriet Gomer abt 1880 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant Briton Ferry, Glamorgan

1911 Raven Hotel Murray St Llanelly
Charlotte Reynolds 45
Mary Charlotte Reynolds 23
Annie Matilda Reynolds 19
Clifford Reynolds 17
George Thomas Reynolds 16
Emelly Katie Reynolds 15
Gwendoline Reynolds 12
Gladys Reynolds 10
Dories Reynolds 8
Voilet Lillian Reynolds 4
Joesephs M Azroth 32
Gus Gensmith 28
Thomas Harries 18

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Hi,
this tiny snippet may be new information, apologies if not.

I've just been reading a cardbacked book entitled "Our Industrial Heritage - The Tinplaters of Lydney & Lydbrook" by Bryan Rendell & Keith Childs, published by Review Graphics, ISBN No. 0 950012 1 3.

Sadly there's no publication date but judging by the more recent photos I suspect its from the 1990s, it appears to be a community-project book inspired by the recollections & personal stories of the men who worked there. I bought it secondhand as my father's family were from Lydbrook, although they were colliers with no clear links to the Tinplate industry, but it is still a very interesting read if like me you're interested in local industrial history, or Lydbrook in general.
The book states that although Lydbrook had a Tinplate works from 1806, the works "took off" in 1871 when Richard Thomas & his sons took control of the Lydney & Lydbrook works. The book has some group photos of Lydbrook workers, footballers and Baptist Men all c1912. Altho' the Baptist photo carries no names, I wonder if the man seated central is Rev Mostyn Jones, he wears smart black robes. There is an equally small photo of "Lydbrook Sunday School Treat 1913" in Humphrey Phelps' "The Forest In Old Photographs" [Sutton Pub 1983, ISBN 0 86299 078 5]; there is a prominent gentleman who looks like the aforementioned gent.
[He does look similar to this later and much larger/clearer photo]
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/lydbrook/pages/page_21.html
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Richard Thomas's family apparently lived at "The Poplars", Upper Lydbrook, and they have their own stained glass window in Lydbrook C of E Church.

This brief quote from the Lydbrook section may particularly interest you;

"There were large families employed at the works... Wards, Beards, Lears, Hussey, Dobbs, Knights, Roberts and apart from their work they took part in the many Village activities - rugby, football, cricket and the Churches. The present Football Club had it's beginnings from the members of the Lydbrook Baptist Church Bible Class led by the Minister The Reverend H.Mostyn Jones and were first called "The Tinplaters".

As I said a brief mention but..... Whether he played for the club isn't recorded, but I'm sure he could do inspirational halftime talks if required !

The current Club's own history states it was formed in 1919.
http://www.lydbrookafc.co.uk/?page_id=7

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The book includes quotations from a long interview with former Lydney worker Jack Wolridge OBE which became a play "Strife" by John Galsworthy. His words are perhaps applicable to Lydbrook too, one of his quotes was:
"There was a big religious following in those days. "Those that had felt" religion was a good way of keeping "those that had not" quiet. For "those that had not" felt that something to their benefit was going to happen because of what was told them in the gospel every week in the Chapel. They believed that "big day" they had talked and read about in the Bible was very near.
But as the standard of living improved, and the fear of the workhouse that loomed over their lives got farther and farther away, the support of the Chapel wasn't required so much".

Personally this quote confused me a little, being listed alongside others extolling the general high wages and good standard of living deservedly enjoyed by the tremendously-hard-working tinplaters. I can only assume this perhaps relates more to the early days of the Lydney Works in the early-mid 1800s ? That said the book describes later times when the workers were on strike or on short-time, but would the workhouse have been a worry then ?... apparently yes http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Monmouth/#Post-1834

From another Lydbrook Jones....but no relation I'm sure.

PS I have searched Jack Wolridge OBE in this site and FreeBMD, GlosBMD etc hoping to place his quotes chronologically, sadly without success.
UPDATE October 2013: I now suspect the Jack referred to in the book was actually Christened John Charles Wolridge, after his father who was also a tinplate doubler at Lydney, please see this newer post for clarification.
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=42481

hello,Sorry took so long to reply,only just got back to FOD website.My Grandfather was The Rev Mostyn Jones.He did originate from North Wales.He woked as ayouth at The Point of Ayr Collery before going into the ministery at Carmathen Baptist College.he met my nan at Cilcan North Wales and they both moved down to Kidwelly,she had a job at Dinfawr hall as a serving girl.His first posting was to Lydbrook c1912.

but my Taid was D. Mostyn-Jones.

Your Grandad was Daniel Mostyn JONES

Name: Daniel Mostyn Jones
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1897
Date of Registration: Dec 1989
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Delyn
Inferred County: Clwyd
Volume: 24
Page: 442

possible??
Name: Daniel M Jones
Spouse : Rossetta L Gorst
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Holyhead
Inferred County: Anglesey
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 923

1911 2 Pentre Felin Amlwch
Richard Humphrey Jones 40
Jane Jones 36
Thomas Hywell Jones 14
Daniel Mostyn Jones 13
Gwilyn Richard Jones 7

1901
Richard H Jones abt 1871 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Head Amlwch, Anglesey
Jane Mostyn abt 1875 Llanwinllwybo, Anglesey, Wales Boarder Amlwch, Anglesey
Thomas Howell Jones abt 1897 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
Daniel Mostyn Jones abt 1898 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
John Arthur Jones abt 1899 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey

Name: Daniel Mostyn Jones
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district: Anglesey
Inferred County: Anglesey
Volume: 11b
Page: 476

1881 Pentrefelin
John Jones abt 1840 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Head Amlwch, Anglesey Corn & Flour Dealer
Sarah Jones abt 1840 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Wife Amlwch, Anglesey
William Jones abt 1867 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
John Thomas Jones abt 1868 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
Richd.Humphrey Jones abt 1870 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
Phoebe Cathe. Jones abt 1872 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Daughter Amlwch, Anglesey
Josiah Hughes Jones abt 1876 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
Thomas Jones abt 1877 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Son Amlwch, Anglesey
Hannah Elizth. Jones Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales Daughter Amlwch, Anglesey

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