William HARRIS b1877 ?? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Friday, January 27, 2012, 22:54 (4764 days ago) @ Jefff

Based on earlier 1901 England Glos West Dean Census;
Searching Latterday Saints for William Harris, aged 24 so born abt 1877, mother Ann/Hanna perhaps ??

First find is this, relevant ?:

England and Wales Census, 1881 for George William Harris
Name: George William Harris
Age: 3
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Grand Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation:
Address: Five Acres
Census Place: West Dean (Gloucs), Monmouthshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1342259
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5225 / 52
Page Number: 4
Household Gender Age
Morgan Senr Watkins M 50
Rose Anna Watkins F 53
Moses Watkins M 17
George William Harris M 3

So a William Harris b1877 is grandson of Rose Anna Watkins b1828...??
Rose ANNA is born Lydbrook (nr Christchurch as per OP), wife of Morgan (a stone quarryman born Monmouth).
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ3Z-ZT4
All seems relevant..

However also find:

England and Wales Census, 1881 for William Harris
Name: William Harris
Age: 4
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Scholar
Address: 18 William St
Census Place: Llanover, Monmouthshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1342261
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5237 / 116
Page Number: 30
Household Gender Age
Parent Mary A Harris F 40
Margaret Harris F 13
William Harris M 4
Wm Williams M 63

So another William, son of Mary A (Anne??) Harris:

Name: Mary A Harris is a WIDOW, but born 1841 Garndyrris Monmouthshire, so ?
Prob NOT.

THEN FIND:

England and Wales Census, 1881 for William Harris
Name: William Harris
Age: 3
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation:
Address: 2 Richmond Pde
Census Place: Chepstow, Monmouthshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1342258
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5219 / 59
Page Number: 43
Household Gender Age
Parent Willm Harris M 25
Parent Annie Harris F 26
William Harris M 3
Bertie Harris M 2

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ3C-N4L

SO MOTHER is

Annie Harris
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1855
Birthplace: Masterworth, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Condition: Married

Correct age, but Masterworth ??
Cannot find this place, presume is Minsterworth, Glos, upriver from Chepstow etc.

Father:
Willm Harris
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1856
Birthplace: Chepstow, Monmouthshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation: Coach Builder Coach Mkr

Family ages suggest this is indeed the marriage as posted above:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
HARRIS William Monmouth 11a 73
WATKINS Annie Monmouth 11a 73

Not on FoD site, perhaps Non Conformist or Registry Office ?

Try Glos BMD as includes Reg Office Marriages:

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
HARRIS William WATKINS Annie Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office 1875 10 88 http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MarriageSearch.aspx

ONLY Chepstow Wm Harris Baptism on FoD site for 1855 +/- 5yrs:
Record_ID: 206028
Entry_Number: 394
Year: 1855
Month: May
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: William Bendoff
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Nelson S[tree]t
Occupation: Smith
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: s[on] o[f]
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: 1851-1861
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow
Soundex: H620

There are other "possibles" as William and Ann/Hanna are VERY popular names, but this is most likely I think. Now must find when/why Annie becomes a Madley....

Searching FoD PRs for possible death of Willm Harris Snr, after 1881 Census:

Record_ID: 142579
Entry_Number:
Year: 1888
Month: May
Day: 25
Surname: HARRIS
Forenames: William B
Residence: 3 Exmouth Pl Chepstow
Age_at_death: 33
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: b by A J Davies Bapt Minister Chepstow
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: St Arvans Monmouth
Soundex: H620

"William B" dies age 33 so born abt 1855, qed?!.
No inquest into early death on FoD site.
No will on FoD site.

Now search Madley/Harris marriage post 1888 ?.
None on Glos BMD (should have looked earlier !!).
None of FoD

BAck to Latterday Saints, refind 1901 Census as earlier:

England and Wales Census, 1901 for Annie Madley
Name: Annie Madley
Event: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 45
Relationship to Head of Household: Mother
Birthplace: West Dean, Gloucestershire
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Monmouth
Sub-district: Coleford
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church
Civil Parish: West Dean (Gloucs)
County: Monmouthshire

BUT if she is STILL married, why not shown as "WIFE" ?.
Presumably because husband Samuel? has left household or is dead ?? by 1901