Forest miners going to Wigan (Parish Records)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Friday, January 26, 2018, 01:50 (2527 days ago) @ JaneyH

Glad we could help a little Janey, I guessed the email was an oversight.
Also glad you enjoyed your visit to the Forest. Sadly I've not lived there for 30 years, but my mum and one of my sisters is still in Cinderford, despite the town being somewhat "tired" these days compared to it's prosperity in my childhood, the people are still friendly salt-of-the-Earth and I love them. For some reason the Stockwell Green address has stuck in my memory since we went to Cub Scouts there in the early 70s, next to the St Johns vicarage playing field.
This 1883 map shows it was almost detached from modern-day Cinderford, which of course was itself originally centred on Cinderford Bridge hence St John's being the town's first large Church.
http://maps.nls.uk//view/101453397

I think the GRO have just made an error twixt years & months with Henry. GlosBMD are clear about his birth if not his death, also his parent's marriage. Of course his age may have been recorded incorrectly when registered.

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BOWDLER Joseph MARTIN Emily Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1873 5 37

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BOWDLER Henry MARTIN 1880 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 47 83

Death Details
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
BOWDLER Henry 11 1881 Westbury on Severn, Newnham 23 479

There are a couple of "possibles" for his mother Emily Martin, but I suspect this one;

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
MARTIN Emily CARTER 1857 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 17 384

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Her POSSIBLE parent's ?
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
MARTIN John CARTER Mary Caroline Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1855 2 5

1861 Newnham Street, Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Martin Head M 31 Shoemaker. ..., Gloucestershire
Mary Caroline Martin Wife F 30 Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Thomas Albert Martin Son M 6 Newnham, Gloucestershire
Francis William Martin Son M 1 Newnham, Gloucestershire
(Where's Emily ?. I'm using FamilySearch, otherwise would view neighbours' households etc ?)

Record_ID: 11267
Entry_Number: 392
Year: 1830
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: CARTER
Child_Forenames: Mary Caroline
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Arlingham
Occupation: Butcher
Officiating_Minister: John Sayer
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 49
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham
Soundex: C636

Cannot easily find the family in the Census before Emily's marriage, this may be why, from GlosBMD;

Death Details
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
MARTIN Mary Caroline 40 1870 Gloucester, South Hamlet 15 258

1871 South, Gloucester, Barton St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Martin Head M 41 Shoemaker. Crewe, Cheshire
Jane Martin Wife F 41 Churchdown, Gloucestershire
Sarah J G Martin Daughter F 17 Servant. Gloucester, Gloucestershire
Thomas A Martin Son M 15 Shoemaker. Newham, Gloucestershire
F W Martin Son M 11 Scholar. Newham, Gloucestershire
Albert T G Martin Son M 11 Scholar. Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
MARTIN John HILL Jane Gloucester Gloucester Register Office 1871 7 38
MARTIN John GAZE Jane Gloucester Gloucester Register Office 1871 7 38

Beginning to wonder if this is Emily's family now, but cannot seem to find her anywhere with certainty on the 1861 & 1871 Census, so ??