The parish records search has had me working overtime the past two days! I guess it's been awhile since I last checked for online records for Gloucester.

Here is another family I am working on. They are related to my MALSON - CLUTTERBUCK line through a second marriage and half siblings. I'm still missing a lot of information on this line. I don't have access to census records (except the 1881 census) which would give approximate birth dates.

1 Thomas ROBERTS

...... 2 Thomas ROBERTS

..........+Jane BEACH Born: May 1821 Berry Hill, Gloucester, England Baptism: 27 May 1821 Chirstchurch, Gloucester, England Married: 03 Dec 1843 St Briavels, Gloucester, England Father: Benjamin BEACH Mother: Elizabeth WILLIAMS

............... 3 James ROBERTS Born: Jun 1852 Crossways, Gloucester, England Christening: 13 Jun 1852 Newland Parish, Gloucester, England

............... 3 Emma ROBERTS Born: Feb 1854 Scowles, Gloucester, England Christening: 12 Feb 1854 Newland Parish, Gloucester, England

............... 3 William ROBERTS Born: 1856 Scowles, Gloucester, England Christening: 13 Apr 1856 Newland Parish, Gloucester, England

............... 3 Sarah Ann ROBERTS Born: Apr 1863 Crossways, Gloucester, England Christening: 12 Apr 1863 Newland Parish, Gloucester, England

............... 3 [1] Thomas ROBERTS Born: 1845 East Dean, Gloucester, England Christening: 13 Apr 1845 Newland Parish, Gloucester, England Died: Apr 1907 Plump Hill, Gloucester, England Burial: 04 Apr 1907 Drybrook, Gloucester, England Census: 1871 East Dean, Gloucester, England

...................+Selina SYSUM Born: 23 Jan 1845 East Dean, Gloucester, England Baptism: 23 Jan 1845 Aston Ingham, Gloucester, England Married: 12 Apr 1868 Aston Ingham, Gloucester, England Died: Bef. 1880 Gloucester, England Father: John SYSUM Census: 1871 East Dean, Gloucester, England Mother: Maria SYSUM

....................... 4 Lavina ROBERTS Born: Abt. 1870 East Dean, Gloucester, England Census: 1871 East Dean, Gloucester, England

....................... 4 Albert ROBERTS Born: Abt. 1879 Census: 1891 East Dean, Gloucester, England

...........................+Lilly Florence PHILLIPS Born: Abt. 1885 Married: 22 Dec 1906 Drybrook, Gloucester, England Father: James PHILLIPS

............... *2nd Wife of [1] Thomas ROBERTS:

...................+Hannah CLUTTERBUCK Born 1: Bet. Apr - Jun 1845 Lea Hamlet, Gloucester, England Born 2: England Married: 25 Dec 1880 St. Johns, Cinderford, Gloucester, England Died: Aft. 1901 Father: Benjamin CLUTTERBUCK Census: 1851 Drybrook, ED Ross, Gloucester, England Mother: Selina UNKNOWN (Hannah's first husband was George CLUTTERBUCK)

....................... 4 Frank Dottie ROBERTS Born: Abt. 1882 East Dean, Gloucester, England Census: 1891 East Dean, Gloucester, England

....................... 4 Emily Mabel ROBERTS Born: Bet. Apr - Jun 1884 East Dean, Gloucester, England Census: 1891 East Dean, Gloucester, England

starter for ten !!

1841
Benjm Clutterbuck abt 1791 Taynton, Gloucestershire
Sarah Clutterbuck abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Taynton, Gloucestershire
John Clutterbuck abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Taynton, Gloucestershire
Mary Clutterbuck abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Taynton, Gloucestershire
Joseph Hook abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Taynton, Gloucestershire
Mary Hook abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Taynton, Gloucestershire

death ? ( this sites records suggest this is a 22 yr old)
Name: Sarah Clutterbuck
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 283

marriage ?
Sylvia Wilks ?? (this sites records have Gloria ?? - )
Benjamin Clutterbuck
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 369

1851
Benjamin Clutterbuck abt 1792 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Selina Clutterbuck abt 1821 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Clutterbuck abt 1848 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Clutterbuck abt 1845 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Mary Clutterbuck abt 1850 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
William Clutterbuck abt 1843 Aston Ingham, Herefordshire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1861
Samuel Parks H abt 1815 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Parks abt 1823 Linton, Herefordshire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Clutterbuck abt 1847 Lea Bardey, Herefordshire, England Niece Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

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Thank you! You are wonderful!

The big question is how are the PARKS related?

Diane

I am typing this with the 'assistance' of number 4 cat, so apologies for any errors! I have found a marriage which I think is for your Samuel Parks:

record_id 11344
Entry No 611
Year 1844
Month Dec
Day 25
Groom Surname PARKS
Groom Forename Samuel
Age at Marriage 30
Groom Condition Bachelor
Rank or Profession Cordwainer
Residence Mitcheldean
Groom's Father's Surname Parks
Groom's F.F Richard
Rank or Profession Labourer
Bride Surname MARSHALL
Bride Forename Hannah
Age at Marriage 23
Bride Condition Spinster
Residence Mitcheldean
Bride's Father's Surname Marshall
Bride's F.F. Thomas
Rank or Profession Labourer
Signature or Mark He signs, she marks
Witness 1 Joseph Patience [?]of Mitcheldean
Witness 2 Mark of Sophia wife of Do.
Event Type Marriage
Reg Ref P220 in 1/8
Page No 13
Parish/Chapel Mitcheldaen
Soundex Groom P620
Soundex Bride M624

Now some digging needs to be done to see where Hannah Clutterbuck fits into the puzzle.

I've done more digging and found this:

Thomas Marshall Born: Abt. 1798 in Linton, Hereford, England

Married Hannah Clutterbuck Born: Abt. 1800 in Linton, Hereford, England Married: 02 Mar 1819 in Linton By Ross, Hereford, England

Children:

Ann Marshall Born: Oct 1819 in Linton By Ross, Hereford, England

James Marshall Born: Nov 1826 in Linton By Ross, Hereford, England

Mary Marshall Born: Jan 1830 in Linton By Ross, Hereford, England

Hannah Marshall Born: Aug 1822 in Linton By Ross, Hereford, England. She married Samuel Parks Born: Abt. 1814 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Married: 25 Dec 1844 in Mitcheldean, Gloucester, England

Their child:

Richard George Parks Born: Sep 1856 in Mitcheldean, Gloucester, England Baptism: 04 Jan 1857 Mitcheldean, Gloucester, England

Now the question is how is Hannah CLUTTERBUCK related to my CLUTTERBUCK line??

Hi Diane

There are far too many Hannah's in this conundrum!

Listen carefully - I will only say this once.

I have found the following marriage between Thomas MARSHALL & Hannah CLUTTERBUCK in 1819. I believe (at the moment) that these are the parents of Hannah MARSHALL b 1821 who married Samuel PARKS in 1844. So, I think I have established the Clutterbuck connection, but I don't see how Hannah Clutterbuck the younger could be a niece of Sam & Hannah Parks. A second cousin maybe?? Or am I missing something obvious? I've just noticed that Hannah Clutterbuck snr was a widow, so I don't know if this is her single or married name. Back to the detective work then!

record_id 32441
Entry No 23
Year 1819
Month Mar
Day 2
Groom Surname MARSHALL
Groom Forename Thomas
Groom Condition Widower
Residence this parish
Bride Surname CLUTTERBUCK
Bride Forename Hannah
Bride Condition Widow
Residence this parish
Licence or Banns Banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of James Price
Witness 2 Mark of Susannah Price
Officiating Minister GHS Gretton
Event Type Marriage
Register Ref AR91/7
Page No 8
Parish/Chapel Linton
Soundex Groom M624
Bride C436

Chris,

Thank you for the info. Sitting here reading all this I'm as confused as you!

It's possible that Hannah Clutterbuck abt 1847 is the niece of Samuel Parks??

Diane

Hi Diane

Well it looks like she has to be the daughter of either Sam or Hannah Parks
sisters doesn't it? So we are now looking for a marriage between a female Parks and a Clutterbuck; or a female Marshall to a Clutterbuck. Better get the shovel out again!

Kind Regards
Chris

On FreeBMD:

Birth Registration

CLUTTERBUCK Hannah April-June 1845 Ross-on-Wye Vol 26 Page 216

Chris,

Thanks for the BMD record.

I'm going out to buy a bigger shovel! <BG>

Kind Regards,

Diane

I would love to know if anyone ever solved this mystery!

Hannah Clutterbuck married Thomas Marshall (my 3rd great grandparents I believe!), ok I am still with it. They had a child Hannah Marshall(abt1822)who married Samuel parks.

Who is the younger Hannah Clutterbuck, or have I lost the plot completely?

Shellie

this appears to be the BMD entry

CLUTTERBUCK Hannah
April-June 1845
Ross-on-Wye
Vol 26
Page 216

appears to be :-

1851
Benjamin Clutterbuck abt 1792 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Selina Clutterbuck abt 1821 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Clutterbuck abt 1848 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Clutterbuck abt 1845 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Mary Clutterbuck abt 1850 Lea Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire
William Clutterbuck abt 1843 Aston Ingham, Herefordshire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1861
Samuel Parks H abt 1815 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Parks abt 1823 Linton, Herefordshire, England Wife Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Clutterbuck abt 1847 Lea Bardey, Herefordshire, England Niece Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

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