Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Elizabeth JENKINS 1831 Clays ( Orepool)

Elizabeth JENKINS 1831 Clays ( Orepool) (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:26:19 +0000

Year: 1831
Month: Oct
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: JENKINS
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: The Clays
Occupation: Stonecutter
Officiating_Minister: H. Douglas Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 8811
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell

1841 Elwood/ Clearwell
George Jenkins abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire Mason
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Charles Jenkins abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Newland, Gloucestershire

1851 Clays, Orepool
George Jenkins abt 1798 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire Quarryman
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1798 Uppe, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Charles Jenkins abt 1826 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1832 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
George Jenkins abt 1851 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

Elizabeth JENKINS 1838 Mill Hill (reply)

tonyjenkins — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:26:29 +0000

The marriage certificate states that Elizabeth is the daughter of George Jenkins, Quarryman of Cleverend Green.

I believe George to be related to the Jenkins family of Clearwell through John Jenkins b 1765 (s/o William Jenkins b 1733 and Elizabeth Doward). George the s/o John Jenkins b 1796.

Due to missing parish records I am struggling to confirm my Jenkins family connections.

Shortly after Elizabeth Married George Baldwin I believe he was admitted to Gloucester Asylim.

Our records idicate that there are two John Jenkins in the area, both probably linked to William Jenkins b 1707 and Elizabeth Pritchard if and how they are linked I cannot establish.

I would appreciate some guidance if you have time.

Kind Regards

Tony Jenkins

Cleverend Green, Ellwall (reply)

tonyjenkins — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:02:37 +0000

Thanks Slowhands

Your a mine of information.

Regards

Tony

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

tonyjenkins — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:00:14 +0000

Thanks Alison

I will visit chapel on my next visit to the Forest

Regards

Tony

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

tonyjenkins — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:59:08 +0000

Hi Chris

Thanks for info it makes facinating reading

Tony

George BALDWIN 1832 Milkwall (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:45:31 +0000

1841 Milkwall
Richard Baldwin abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Anna Baldwin abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Charles Baldwin abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
George Baldwin abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Richard Baldwin abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sophia Baldwin abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Winifred Baldwin abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Fetterhill
Richard Baldwin abt 1791 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Anne Baldwin abt 1798 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Baldwin abt 1835 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Baldwin abt 1832 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Richard Baldwin abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

This Elizabeth looks young to have marryied in 1853, which I think explains this later marriage

Year: 1863
Month: Aug
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: BALDWIN
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Palmers Platt
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Baldwin
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Blacksmith
Brides_Surname: PACE
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Ellwood
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Pace
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Stone cutter
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Joseph Taylor
Witness_2: Henry Gunter
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J[oh]n Jo[seph] Elsworth incumbent
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 16
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1871
George Baldwin abt 1833 Melkwall, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1844 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Baldwin abt 1855 Clements Green, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1866 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Baldwin abt 1869 Edinwall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Tanney Baldwin abt 1868 Edinwall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Baldwin abt 1870 Palmers Flat, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1881 Palmers flat
George Baldwin abt 1834 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baldwin abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred C. Baldwin West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Clara J. Baldwin abt 1876 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Baldwin abt 1874 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriet Baldwin abt 1869 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Baldwin abt 1877 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
William Baldwin abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Elizabeth JENKINS 1838 Mill Hill (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:31:51 +0000

a candidate for your Elizabeth living nr Cleverend Green in 1851

1851 Mill Hill
James Jenkins abt 1792 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Susanah Jenkins abt 1797 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Jenkins abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jenkins abt 1838 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Jenkins abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Jenkins abt 1834 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1838
Month: Dec
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: JENKINS
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Ann
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Susannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mill Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: x Settle [?] with Clerk
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Cleverend Green, Ellwall (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:06:16 +0000

North-west of Bream a few, mainly industrial, buildings were put up from the 1840s in the
Oakwood valley near an ancient corn mill in a detached part of Newland parish. (fn. 82)
Further west at Clements End, near the south-western boundary of the Forest, there were
several groups of scattered cottages by 1787. (fn. 83)
One group, in the areas known in the 1820s as Clements Tump and Cleverend Green, (fn. 84)
comprised six cottages in 1834 (fn. 85) and was represented by the 16 houses recorded
at 'Elwall in 1851. (fn. 86) It included a nonconformist chapel from 1869.

From: 'Forest of Dean: Settlement', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5:
Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 300-325.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23266. Date accessed: 09 November 2008.

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

beajaytee — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:35:51 +0000

Tony,
I think Cleverend Green is the area now known as Clements End (Green) which is about a mile from Ellwood.

beajaytee

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

beajaytee — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:22:12 +0000

Tony,
The Methodist Chapel in Ellwood is still there ! and holds a regular Sunday service. The Chapel was built in 1875 to replace a smaller one which then became the (Sunday) School room. There are two graveyards, one attached to the Chapel and an older one between the Chapel and the former schoolroom (now privately owned). No records of the original graveyard exist as far as I know.There is a record of the memorials and some unmarked graves in the 'new' graveyard, it was recorded by members of fod family history some years ago. The first burial in the new section was in 1914.
I believe some baptisms that took place there were recorded as being held at Lydney.

beajaytee

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

alison2 — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:56:09 +0000

Hi Tony

The Chapel is opposite the Primary School in Ellwood (2 miles from Coleford) and it was still in use in the 1970s 1980s when my children attended the Sunday School. There is a small cemetery there.

Alison

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:52:26 +0000

From British History Online:

Q3. Within the Forest the Primitive Methodists built a chapel between Pillowell and Yorkley in 1835 (fn. 51) and another at Ellwood in 1841.

The Ellwood chapel was retained as a schoolroom in 1876 when a new chapel was opened to the west. Services in the new building, known as Providence, were attended by 230 people in 1879. (fn. 65)

From: 'Forest of Dean: Protestant nonconformity', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 396-404. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23273. Date accessed: 08 November 2008..

The Primitive Metodist Chapel Ellwood

tonyjenkins — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:04:31 +0000

I have a copy of the marriage cretificate for Elizabeth Jenkins and George Baldwin married 19th March 1853.

The marriage is not recorded in our marriage records

The residence of the bride is Cleverend Green.

I would like to know:-

1. Where is Cleverend Green?
2. Where was/is the Primitive Methodist Chapel in Ellwood?
3. How long was the Ellwood Primitive Methodist Chapel open for?
4. Did the chapel perform the full range of Baptism Marriages and Burials?
5. Does the chapel have a cemetry?

Your help would be appreciated

Kind Regards

Tony Jenkins