Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Edward ADDAMS 1809 Buckholt MON

Edward ADDAMS 1809 Buckholt MON (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:11:55 +0000

"looks" like a brother to Ann
married to a Forest girl

a few "households" away from Mary ADDAMS at Old Shop and Broom farm

1841 Coldharbour ( towards Buckholt)
Edward Addams abt 1811 Monmouthshire, Wales Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire
Eliza Addams abt 1811 Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire
George Addams abt 1835 Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire

1851 Moyles Cross
Edward Addams abt 1809 Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire
Eliza Addams abt 1809 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire
Hellen Addams abt 1845 Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire
John Addams abt 1848 Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire
Paul Addams abt 1850 Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire
Stephen Addams abt 1842 Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Dixton Newton, Monmouthshire

ADDAMS Old Shop Buckholt MON / HER (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:18:57 +0000

then this must be a possible ....

Old Shop just below Buckholt Woods
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
coords 349900 216200

and a modern photo
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/110756

1841 "Old Shop"
Mary Addams abt 1791 Monmouthshire, Wales Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire Ind.
Ann Addams abt 1821 Monmouthshire, Wales Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire
George Addams abt 1816 Monmouthshire, Wales Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire
John Addams abt 1816 Monmouthshire, Wales Newton Dixton, Monmouthshire

and from the Bishops Transcripts

Edward Addams

Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Powell
Marriage: 25 SEP 1805 Bts, Monmouth, Monmouth, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M023854 1660 - 1839 0992324 Film NONE
Sheet:

Name: Edward Addams
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 68

a possible for Mary's death

Name: Mary Addams
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 76

a possible for John's death in Worcester Infirmary

Name: John Adams
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Worcester
County: Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 213

ADAMS Milkwall / Gorsty Knoll (reply)

rookancestrybest — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:14:39 +0000

This can't be the same family as I've visted an elderly relative today who obtained the marriage certificate for Charles and Ann Addams (years ago but I wasn't aware of it) and said that her father's name is recorded as being Edward.I've seen it today and it clearly states he was called Edward and was a labourer. Ann Mary Addams' address was Monmouth on her marriage certificate.

ADAMS Milkwall / Gorsty Knoll (reply)

rookancestrybest — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:48:40 +0000

Thanks for this I think it's confirmed a few things I can now go and look them up further,
HB

Ann ADAMS' marriage 1846 (reply)

rookancestrybest — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:43:19 +0000

Thanks for this, appreciated as always.
HB

ADAMS Milkwall / Gorsty Knoll (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:52:54 +0000

a possible family in West dean

1841 Milkwall ish
James Adams abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Adams abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Benjamin Adams abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Hannah Adams abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Adams abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Stephen Adams abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851Milkwall
James Adams abt 1789 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Adams abt 1785 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Adams abt 1831 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Adams abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Stephen Adams abt 1817 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=13099

Ann ADAMS' marriage 1846 (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:46:48 +0000

Ann Mary Ad[d]ams married Charles J Rook in the 1804s

Name: Charles Rook
Name: Ann Addams
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 129

1841 Coleford Meend
Thomas Rock abt 1791 Dean Forest Gloucestershire Blacksmith
Elizabeth Rock abt 1791 Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Charles Rock abt 1826 Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Paul Rock abt 1831 Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Joseph Rock abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas Rock abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

Value of 1850's will (reply)

rookancestrybest — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:00:40 +0000

Thanks for this, I thought it would be a considerable amount otherwise his sister, who was, by then a widow, would not have been able to have afforded to come back to the UK for two months along with her son and possibly her nephew. I know she also owned a house in Poughkeepsie so I am now wondering whether she bought that from her share of the legacy too.

Value of 1850's will (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:21:48 +0000

£119 0s 0d from 1850 is now worth approx

£9,802.12 using the retail price index. {US$15,000.00}
£88,809.93 using average earnings. {US$135,000.00}

Ann Adams' brothers

rookancestrybest — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 06:41:42 +0000

Ann Mary Ad[d]ams married Charles J Rook in the 1804s prior to them emigrating to Poughkeepsie, New York in the early 1850s. She died on 29th December 1900 but her husband died shortly after they arrived in the USA in the autumn of 1854.

I have known this for a while but I have now come to know that Ann had a brother called George, whose wife was probably called either Eliza or Elizabeth and children who also appear to have been living in Poughkeepsie.

I have also found out that Ann Adams had other brothers (no dates of birth for any of them)- John who died in 1858 after having been in Worcester Infirmary and described as "a miser" by his sister and having "a belt of avarice around his waist" (this brother left them all a legacy which led to Ann and one of her sons and probably one of George's sons returning to the Forest of Dean for two months from the USA in order to collect it).

Their other brothers were called James, William and Stephen and they had another brother Edward who died before 1858.

Can anyone shed any light as to why they emigrated and what made John's sister call him a miser?

Ann worked for a doctor as his housekeeper but I'm not sure whether she took on this job as a widow or whether she had worked for him prior to her husband's death. The librarian in Poughkeepsie has told me that there were no industries akin to those in the Forest of Dean i.e. no steel, coal or similar industries at that time and that it was a very quiet town.

John Adams left approximately £119 in his will which was shared between his living siblings and a few other relatives. I think that this must have been a considerable amount in the 1850s to have left.