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<title>Joseph JENKINS/George VAUGHAN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 1871 Census, Tidenham :</p>
<p>Joseph &amp; Emma JENKINS - have a </p>
<p>George VAUGHN - brother-in-law aged 32, married Sugar Refiner, born Bristol.</p>
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<p><br />
1841 Census Gloucester St James</p>
<p>Harriet VAUGHAN - 30<br />
George VAUGHAN - 5<br />
Charles VAUGHAN - 1<br />
<strong>Emma HAND - 15 - Female Servant</strong></p>
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<p>1841 Census, Tidenham - Churchend Hamlet</p>
<p>William VAUGHAN - 60 - Ag Lab.  born in County<br />
Ann VAUGHAN - 60  born in County<br />
John VAUGHAN - 15</p>
<p>next door</p>
<p>James JENKINS 80 - not born in County<br />
Ann JENKINS - 70 - not born in County<br />
next page<br />
Lewis WILLIAMS - 65 - not born in County</p>
<p>// (end of household)</p>
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<p>1851 Census, Tidenham Chase</p>
<p>William VAUGHAN - 81, Glos Tidenham<br />
Ann - 72 - born Newland (nee WILLIAMS) - married at Tidenham 3 August 1798<br />
John - 27 - Ag Lab born Tidenham<br />
Harriet - 22<br />
John - 2</p>
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<p>1851 Census, Bristol St Philip &amp; Jacob<br />
Wade Street</p>
<p>William VAUGHAN - 50 - Haulier, born Gloucester Tidenham<br />
Harriet - 50 - born Somerset<br />
George - 15 - born Bristol<br />
Charles - 10 - ditto</p>
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<p>1861 Census, Wade Street</p>
<p>VAUGHAN</p>
<p>William - 60 - Potatoe Peeler, born Tidenham, (Blind)<br />
Harriet - 60  all born Bristol<br />
Willm - son - 31 - married<br />
George - son - 25 - married<br />
Chas - son - 20 married<br />
Ann - daughter-in-law 26<br />
Isabella - daughter-in-law - 21 (married to Chase 1871 census)<br />
3 grandchildren listed<br />
Harriot -1<br />
George - 4 months<br />
Willm - 1</p>
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<title>Joseph Jenkins baptised November 1825 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rosie,<br />
May I presume you've searched this site's PRs and have found these:<br />
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Record_ID: 280346 <br />
Entry_Number: 323 <br />
Year: 1825 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: JENKINS <br />
Child_Forenames: Joseph <br />
Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Anne <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Doward <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: Geo. Pyrke Rector <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AC 76/1 <br />
Page_Number: 41 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Whitchurch <br />
Soundex: J525 </p>
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Record ID 28488 <br />
Entry Number 84 <br />
Year 1847 <br />
Month Dec <br />
Day 28 <br />
Grooms Surname JENKINS <br />
Grooms Forenames Joseph <br />
Grooms Age full <br />
Groom Condition Bachelor <br />
Grooms Occupation Labourer <br />
Grooms Residence Rosemary Lane Tidenham <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname Jenkins <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames James <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation Carpenter <br />
Brides Surname HAND <br />
Brides Forenames Emma <br />
Brides Age full <br />
Brides Condition Spinster <br />
Brides Occupation Servant <br />
Brides Residence The Chase Tidenham <br />
Brides Fathers Surname Hand <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames Richard <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation Painter <br />
Licence or Banns [not stated] <br />
Date of Banns [not stated] <br />
Signature or Mark both mark <br />
Witness 1 Mark of Ann Graham <br />
Witness 2 Mark of Abraham Turner <br />
Other Witnesses  <br />
Officiating Minister John Armstrong Vicar <br />
Event Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P333 IN 1/8 <br />
Page Number 42 <br />
Parish Chapel Tidenham </p>
<p>It certainly appears that Joseph's parents are James &amp; Anne as you say.</p>
<p>Searching for James' marriage I recommend using the wonderful Advanced Search feature, as this quickly searches the PRs with minimal known inputs. This gives the following Marriage which looks reasonable to me ?:</p>
<p>Record ID 68720 <br />
Entry Number 4 <br />
Year 1824 <br />
Month  <br />
Day  <br />
Grooms Surname JENKINS <br />
Grooms Forenames James <br />
Grooms Age  <br />
Groom Condition  <br />
Grooms Occupation  <br />
Grooms Residence Whitchurch <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname  <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames  <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation  <br />
Brides Surname CHRISTOFFE <br />
Brides Forenames Anne <br />
Brides Age  <br />
Brides Condition  <br />
Brides Occupation  <br />
Brides Residence Lanarth <br />
Brides Fathers Surname  <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames  <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation  <br />
Licence or Banns Banns <br />
Date of Banns 1824 Apr 18 25 May 2 <br />
Signature or Mark  <br />
Witness 1  <br />
Witness 2  <br />
Other Witnesses  <br />
Officiating Minister  <br />
Event Banns <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference AC76/6 <br />
Page Number 1 <br />
Parish Chapel Whitchurch </p>
<p>Again using Advanced Search I've searched the Baptisms but no obvious siblings appear (I think, please try yourself). There are an awful lot of James &amp; Ann/Anne Jenkins I see !!<br />
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<p>Re Joseph &amp; Emma moving to Tidenham searching the Glos FHS cd for the 1851 Census gives this household which seems correct:</p>
<p>2443 1851 CENSUS HO107/2443 FF.0424-0464 ED.10A CHEPSTOW 2                                                                           </p>
<p>Piece: 2443      Folio: 0440     Schedule: 029</p>
<p>Address: Chase Road             </p>
<p>JENKINS Joseph    HD M  26   Ag. Lab.  HEF Millchurch                   (c1825)<br />
JENKINS Emma      WI M  26   -         WAR Birmingham                   (c1825)<br />
JENKINS James     SO -   2   At Home.  GLS Tidenham                     (c1849)<br />
JENKINS Joseph    SO -    5M At Home.  GLS Tidenham                     (c1850)<br />
PARKER John       LG U  30   Ag. Lab.  GLS Tidenham                     (c1821)</p>
<p>I see from the Marriage Emma was a Servant at The Chase, Tidenham. Perhaps they set up home near there, as per this Census, while she continued working there for a few  years until the children arrived ?. Perhaps Joseph was now working on the land there too ?.</p>
<p>I'm NO expert on Tidenham but I think the general phrase &quot;The Chase&quot; generally refers to an area of historical importance eg a manor house ??.  I've found these references within the ever-reliable British History website.</p>
<p><span style="color:#309;"><br />
An estate called CHASE FARM originated in a sale allotment of 279 a. on the west of Tidenham Chase which was bought by James Nerot at inclosure in 1815; he sold it in 1818 to Alexander Trotter. The estate was heavily mortgaged and the interest was in arrears by 1842 when Henry Churchyard acquired the rights of the other mortgagees, and in the next year he bought the fee simple from Henry Trotter, Alexander's trustee. By 1870 the estate had passed to Mary Ann Churchyard who acquired other lands to the east of Chase farm from the Duke of Beaufort in that year. In 1892 she sold her estate, then 432 a., to the Marlings, who retained it until 1921; the house, which became known as Chase House, was leased separately while the estate was farmed from a smaller stone house built near-by by Sir William Marling in 1894. The smaller house and 180 a. were owned by Mr. W. P. Johnson in 1969. Chase House, which was then standing empty, is a two-story building of stone faced in rough-cast built by James Nerot shortly before 1818. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#309;"></span></p>
<p>From: 'Tidenham including Lancaut: Manors and other estates', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 10: Westbury and Whitstone Hundreds (1972), pp. 62-68.<br />
 URL: <a href="http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=15758&amp;amp;strquery=chase">http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=15758&amp;amp;strquery=chase</a>  </p>
<p>Date accessed: 29 July 2012.</p>
<p>So this seems to backup my suggestion re them moving there for employment ?.</p>
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Perhaps of relevance to your Jenkins name is this, if you refer to the website it will detail their sources of information which maybe worth following-up, do you have Samuel &amp; Robert Castle Jenkins in your line ?.<br />
<span style="color:#309;"></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#309;">In 1815 the Allotments made to the owners of the rectory at the inclosure of Tidenham Chase and other lands were 15 a. to Harriet Williams, 8 a. to William Lewis, and 6 a. to Samuel Jenkins, and the corn-rents which were awarded in 1843 instead of the rectorial tithes from the remainder of the parish were £303 14s. to trustees for the Morgans and Buckles, £175 to the trustees of Dorothy Clowes, and £35 to Robert Castle Jenkins.</span></p>
<p>From this site's PRs, perhaps relevant? (there are a LOT of Tidenham Jenkins):</p>
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From the FoD PRS site see Baptisms for Arthur Samuel Jenkins b1816 &amp; Samuel Jenkins b1821, both to Richard &amp; Mary of Tidenham. Also a Burial in 1892 for Robert Castle Jenkins born abt 1803.</p>
<p>?????</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>LATER UPDATE: Sorry for inadvertantly duplicating Chris' post, it seems that I was compiling at the same time Chris was, independent verification if you like ;-)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for info:</p>
<p>Record_ID: 28488 <br />
Entry_Number: 84 <br />
Year: 1847 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 28 <br />
Grooms_Surname: JENKINS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph <br />
Grooms_Age: full <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Grooms_Residence: Rosemary Lane Tidenham <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jenkins <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Carpenter <br />
Brides_Surname: HAND <br />
Brides_Forenames: Emma <br />
Brides_Age: full <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: Servant <br />
Brides_Residence: The Chase Tidenham <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hand <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Painter <br />
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Signature_or_Mark: both mark <br />
Witness_1: Mark of Ann Graham <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Abraham Turner <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: John Armstrong Vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P333 IN 1/8 <br />
Page_Number: 42 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham <br />
Soundex_Groom: J525 <br />
Soundex_Bride: H530 </p>
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Transcript Details</p>
<p>Record_ID: 280346 <br />
Entry_Number: 323 <br />
Year: 1825 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: JENKINS <br />
Child_Forenames: Joseph <br />
Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Anne <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Doward <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: Geo. Pyrke Rector <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AC 76/1 <br />
Page_Number: 41 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Whitchurch <br />
Soundex: J525</p>
<p>Another possible set of parents??</p>
<p>Record_ID: 68720 <br />
Entry_Number: 4 <br />
Year: 1824 <br />
Month:  <br />
Day:  <br />
Grooms_Surname: JENKINS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: James <br />
Grooms_Age:  <br />
Groom_Condition:  <br />
Grooms_Occupation:  <br />
Grooms_Residence: Whitchurch <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Surname: CHRISTOFFE <br />
Brides_Forenames: Anne <br />
Brides_Age:  <br />
Brides_Condition:  <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Lanarth <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:  <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:  <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: 1824 Apr 18 25 May 2 <br />
Signature_or_Mark:  <br />
Witness_1:  <br />
Witness_2:  <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Banns <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AC76/6 <br />
Page_Number: 1 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Whitchurch <br />
Soundex_Groom: J525 <br />
Soundex_Bride: C623</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Joseph Jenkins. Born 1824/5 Whitchurch, Herefordshire.</strong> Father thought to be James Jenkins, born 1760 died 1849, Tidenham Chase.<br />
Joseph married Emma Hand in 1847 in Tidenham. He always appears as an Ag.Lab.<br />
Can anyone throw any light on this family for me?  I would love to find out           1. who were Joseph's parents (possibly James, married to Ann Gauler?).                2. did he have any siblings?                                                          3. why he moved to Tidenham?                                                            4 if anyone out there is linked to this family?<br />
I am Joseph's great-great-grand daughter through his son Paul (of Tidenham).</p>
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<title>Chepstow Union (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I'll have a try.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you tried  this one<br />
<a href="http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Chepstow/Chepstow.shtml">http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Chepstow/Chepstow.shtml</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph Jenkins (1825 - 1896) Married to Emma (Hand)<br />
Understood to have died in the Chepstow Union.Known to be buried at Tidenham Church. How can I find out anything about his possible stay in the Union?</p>
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