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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penelope,<br />
I'm glad you found my reply wrt school registers of interest. I now have a question for you, please, how do you know Benjamin was not in the Home Guard ?.</p>
<p>I ask as I've tried searching for LDV / Home Guard records in the past, and despite knowing names and localities I've invariably failed to find any surviving records nevermind any official database or suchlike.  Yes there are records for a few units but not many I think, so I'm hoping you can maybe update me and hopefully advise me on how to research the Home Guard, please.</p>
<p>Thanks J</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For completeness, and to confirm Mike's post, this site's PRs show Benjamin's older brother stayed in the FoD after their parents died;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 96762<br />
Entry_Number: 435<br />
Year: 1940<br />
Month: Sep<br />
Day: 19<br />
Surname: STEVENS<br />
Forenames: William Robert<br />
Residence: Pike House 1 Valley Road Cinderford<br />
Age_at_death: 71 yrs<br />
Officiating_Minister: A G Partridge<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38<br />
Page_No: 55<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook<br />
Soundex: S315</p>
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Record_ID: 96822<br />
Entry_Number: 495<br />
Year: 1941<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 30<br />
Surname: STEVENS<br />
Forenames: Harriett<br />
Residence: Valley Road Cinderford<br />
Age_at_death: 71 years<br />
Officiating_Minister: A G Partridge Vicar<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38<br />
Page_No: 62<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook<br />
Soundex: S315</p>
<p><br />
Record_ID: 50453<br />
Entry_Number: 211<br />
Year: 1941<br />
Month: Jun<br />
Day: 14<br />
Grooms_Surname: STEVENS<br />
Grooms_Forenames: William Robert<br />
Grooms_Age: 35<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: Bricksetter<br />
Grooms_Residence: 1 Valley Road Cinderford<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Stevens<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William Robert<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Police Constable deceased<br />
Brides_Surname: DUGGAN<br />
Brides_Forenames: Minnie May<br />
Brides_Age: 36<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: Housekeeper<br />
Brides_Residence: Highfield House Morse Lane Drybrook<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Duggan<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Charles<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Colliery Plate layer<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign<br />
Witness_1: Gladys Ruby Bullock<br />
Witness_2: Harold Barnard<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: A G Partridge MBE Vicar<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN1/22<br />
Page_Number: 106<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook<br />
Soundex_Groom: S315<br />
Soundex_Bride: D250</p>
<p><br />
If his brother Benjamin was still in the area, wouldn't he have been a best man or a witness ?.  Where were the other siblings ?</p>
<p><br />
Surname  First name(s)  Age  District  Vol  Page <br />
Deaths Dec 1964 <br />
STEVENS  WILLIAM R  59  F.OF DEAN  7B 427</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  DoB  District  Vol  Page <br />
Deaths Sep 1969<br />
STEVENS  Minnie May  4Ap1905  Gloucester C  7b 889</p>
<p><br />
Cannot find their burial records.  They are not at Mile End or Yew Tree Brake.</p>
<p>Cannot find any sign of offspring in PRs or by using FreeBMD.</p>
<p>----</p>
<p>Back to other siblings ?</p>
<p>Maybe sister Edith ?;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page <br />
Marriages Sep 1920<br />
Stevens  Edith H  Williams  Westbury S.  6a 855<br />
Williams  Harry R  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 855</p>
<p><br />
GlosBMd confirms;</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry<br />
WILLIAMS Harry Rhodes STEVENS Edith Harriett Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office  1920 18 72</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page <br />
Births Dec 1897<br />
Williams  Harry Rhodes    Westbury S.  6a 239</p>
<p><br />
1939 Register have these Cinderford entries (cannot access full household, if any);<br />
Henry Rhodes Williams 1897 East Dean R.D. Gloucestershire England 26 Upper Bilson Road<br />
Edith Harriett Williams 1897 East Dean R.D. Gloucestershire England 26 Upper Bilson Road</p>
<p><br />
FreeBMD suggests it may have been a large household, the first matches their marriage year;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  Mother  District  Vol  Page <br />
Births Dec 1920 <br />
Williams  Beryl  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 536</p>
<p>Births Sep 1925<br />
Williams  Elsie I E  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 474</p>
<p>Births Dec 1929  <br />
Williams  Olga M  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 380</p>
<p>Births Sep 1931 <br />
Williams  Dorothy H  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 418</p>
<p>Births Sep 1934 <br />
Williams  Harry R M  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 379</p>
<p>Births Sep 1936 <br />
WILLIAMS  William T A  Stevens  Westbury S.  6a 440</p>
<p>Cannot find any of these in the PRs.</p>
<p>GlosBMD suggests these were born in East Dean district aka Cinderford, <br />
for example</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry<br />
WILLIAMS Beryl STEVENS 1920 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 27 270</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry<br />
WILLIAMS Olga Mary STEVENS 1929 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 34 209</p>
<p>sadly;<br />
Death Details<br />
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry<br />
WILLIAMS Olga Mary 1w 1929 Westbury on Severn, East Dean 15 378</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry<br />
WILLIAMS William Thomas Anthony STEVENS 1936 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 38 167</p>
<p>etc etc, see <a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>No obvious sign that parents Harry &amp; Edith died in the FoD area.</p>
<p>========</p>
<p>FreeBMD has brother Charles' birth;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page <br />
Births Dec 1898<br />
Stevens  Charles Joseph    Hackney  1b 456</p>
<p>(Hackney includes Stoke Newington ref 1911 census).</p>
<p><br />
No obvious sign of a marriage, and I'm unable to see the full household if there is one, but;</p>
<p>1939 Register<br />
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth year Borough / District County Country Address <br />
Charles J Stevens 1897 Hackney London England 4 Blanchard Road</p>
<p><br />
Is this his death ?;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page <br />
Deaths Dec 1971<br />
STEVENS  Charles Joseph  13Fe1897  Hackney  5b 1322</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that's the one I found Mike. All seems to fit.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect this is relevant,</p>
<p>GR 1911 Census, 83 Mayfield Road, Dalston, London,<br />
William Robert STEVENS, Head, 41, Married, Police Constable Dalston, born Gloucestershire<br />
Harriet, Wife, 40, Married, Hackney, London<br />
Edith Harriet, Daughter, 13, Stokenewington, London<br />
Charles Joseph, Son, 12, Stokenewington, London<br />
William Robert, Son, 5, Dalston, London<br />
Benjamin Stanley, Son, 3, Dalston, London</p>
<p>Married 17 years<br />
6 children, 4 living, 2 died<br />
4 rooms in the house</p>
<p>BNA Gloucester Journal - Saturday 03 February 1917</p>
<p>Littledean Petty Sesssions – LICENSING MEETING</p>
<p>…..The Colliers Arms, Cinderford, transferred to William Robert Stevens…….</p>
<p>Ancestry National Probate Calender 1941,</p>
<p>STEVENS William Robert of The Old Pike Cottage Cinderford Gloucestershire died 16 September 1940 Administration Gloucester 10 July to William Robert Stevens brick setter.<br />
Effects £144 14s. 6d.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you provide a bit more of what you already know? Benjamin's parent's names would be a help.</p>
<p>There is a 1911 census record that shows a Benjamin along with siblings Edith and William but it could be a coincidence. His parent's names would confirm it one way or another.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jeff<br />
Thanks for the thorough and swift reply.<br />
I will definately have a search on the info you provided.<br />
I'm beginning to think he was a bit of a rogue.</p>
<p>I'm looking forward to searching through all the information in this site. It will be a big help I hope.</p>
<p>Kind regards<br />
Penelope Stevens.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike<br />
Indeed, this was my initial thought too, but, also, no records of him whatsoever. I even did the &quot;reform school&quot; route, but nothing.<br />
None of his mother's family (O'Connells) have any census records of him.<br />
It's so frustrating.<br />
He disappeared during the WW2 also. No sign of him in any of the forces, home guard. He's an enigma!<br />
Or maybe he was a bit of a rogue and fell through the net.<br />
Perhaps prison is the next route LOL.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you confirm that this entry in the 1939 Register is of the family you are seeking:</p>
<p>Benjamin S Stevens<br />
Gender: Male<br />
Marital status: Married<br />
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1907<br />
Residence Year: 1939<br />
Address: 16 St Olave's Walk<br />
Residence Place: Mitcham, Surrey, England<br />
Occupation: Clerical-Insurance<br />
Schedule Number: 134<br />
Sub Schedule Number: 1<br />
Enumeration District: CNAE<br />
Registration district: 31-1<br />
Inferred Spouse: Olive M M Stevens<br />
Inferred Children: Stanley T Stevens <br />
Maureen Olive Stevens <br />
Patricia M M Stevens<br />
Household Members: <br />
Name<br />
Stanley T Stevens<br />
Hilary T Enoch<br />
Benjamin S Stevens<br />
Olive M M Stevens<br />
Maureen Olive Stevens<br />
Patricia M M Stevens<br />
This record is officially closed.</p>
<p>The date of birth quoted in the Baptism Register is match:<br />
Name: Benjamin Stanley Stevens<br />
Baptism Age: 0<br />
Record Type: Baptism<br />
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1907<br />
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1907<br />
Baptism Place: St Bartholomew, Dalston, Hackney, England<br />
Father: William Robert Stevens<br />
Mother: Harriet Stevens</p>
<p>and is this Benjamin's marriage:<br />
Marriages Sep 1932 <br />
Stevens  Stanley B  White  Wandsworth  1d 1444<br />
White  Olive M M  Stevens  Wandsworth  1d 1444</p>
<p>If so this would suggest he stayed in London possibly with family?</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penelope, and a very warm welcome to this great website and forum.</p>
<p>Gotta be brief for now as a tad late in the day, but given your ancestors were in Cinderford, I think there's a choice of two secondary schools they attended in the town, either Double View Secondary or East Dean Grammar School. If you search these school names in the forum you'll see old threads and posts about them which will hopefully be of interest. Regarding the Attendance Registers of Double View, then see this post, it refers to the Gloucester Archives website which has recently been updated, as have the Archives themselves, so I've just updated the links. I've never visited the Archives myself, sadly, and I must admit I struggle with their search engine at times, but I'm sure they will be able to help you with your queries. It does seems you may be in luck as the Archives do carry Registers for the era you're searching for.  </p>
<p>see <a href="https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=43697">https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=43697</a></p>
<p>I hope this helps as a starter,<br />
J</p>
<p>PS Also see <a href="https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/starting-your-research/starting-your-family-history/more-family-history-resources/">https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/starting-your-research/starting-your-family...</a></p>
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<p>It seems East Dean Grammar School aka EDGS didn't have that name until after your ancestor's schooldays. The excellent British History website gives the following for Cinderford's secondary schools </p>
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<span style="color:#006;">&quot;Double View school, Cinderford, was opened by the school board in 1896 to take older children from local elementary schools. It had new buildings in Woodville Road and in 1904 an average attendance of 413. The curriculum had been broadened to include industrial and technical subjects by the First World War. The school, which had an average attendance of 287 in 1938, became a secondary modern school under the 1944 Act. Between 1968 and 1978 it moved in stages to new buildings in Causeway Road and in 1980 it had 748 pupils on its roll. In 1985 it became a comprehensive school, called the Heywood school after the neighbouring plantation, for children up to 16 years. There were 1,064 pupils on the roll in 1992.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">East Dean Grammar school originated as Cinderford Higher Elementary school, which the county council opened in 1910 as a secondary school and centre for training elementary school teachers. Occupying new buildings south of Station Street, the school took children from 12 years and its curriculum included industrial and commercial subjects appropriate for local employment. It charged a tuition fee of £1 a pupil a year and awarded some free places to children selected from elementary schools in and around the Forest. Known as Cinderford Secondary school from 1919 and East Dean Grammar school from 1927, it had 367 pupils in 1932 and remained a grammar school following the 1944 Act. Among buildings added to the Station Street site were those of a mining school, which ran secondary technical classes in many places in the Forest area and in 1945 established the Forest of Dean Secondary Technical school on the Station Street site. The technical school admitted many boys from Ross-on-Wye (Herefs.). In 1959 it merged with the grammar school, which had more than 500 pupils in 1968 when it was replaced by a new school at Five Acres.&quot;</span></p>
<p><a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp405-413#h3-0004">https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp405-413#h3-0004</a></p>
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<p>PS Geoff Sandles' excellent Glos Pubs website has just been revised, there is an entry for the (Jovial) Colliers Arms which can be found in Section 3 off this link.<br />
<a href="http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/Forest_of_Dean_Cinderford.php">http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/Forest_of_Dean_Cinderford.php</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My paternal family originate from Horsley, Little Dean and Cinderford.</p>
<p>My Gt Grandfather and Gt Grandmother returned from London in 1918 with their children William and Edith Harriet, but their son, Benjamin Stanley (my Grandfather) does not appear on any census/electoral registers (in Gloucestershire nor London).</p>
<p>As he was only 11 years old in 1918 I am presuming he was with his family and his older siblings in Cinderford.</p>
<p>Therein lies the conundrum.</p>
<p>I can not find him anywhere.</p>
<p>I'm quite seasoned in the use of Ancestry.com etc and have been very successful with a lot of brick walls.</p>
<p>I've tried looking at some of the schools but registers back in 1918-1922 (ish) are scarce.</p>
<p>My Gt Grandparents lived at the old Colliers Arms, in the High Street, Cinderford and moved around 1924 to Doekham Road in Cinderford.</p>
<p>I'd be really grateful if any links to school lists or other official lists outside census/electoral would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>With kind regards<br />
Penelope Stevens</p>
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