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James BRIGHT, her father dies in 1782 - no Will anywhere??

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The only other MOORE at Abenhall, was the marriage of

Mary MOORE - 1 July 1804 (residence, Hundred of St Briavels) to Joseph MARSHALL (residence, Hundred of St Briavels)

witness: Jph JORDAN and John HALE

Benjamin MOORE, has only 4 children .... and Mary would be c1884 approx

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? There are two burials of a Joseph MARSHALL at English Bicknore, 1807 and 1810

as

Mary MARSHALL, Widow, Hundred of St Briavels,
marries

John JONES - Bachelor, 26 February 1815

witnesses: Martha POWEEL and Rich(ar)d LOWE

with consent of friends

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JONES .....

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Baptism at Arlingham, 13 December 1818

John Jones JONES - parents: John (Merchant) and Mary

James BRIGHT for part of the late SANSOME's - refers to Jane SANSUM's family

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and underneath James BRIGHT

Thos JONES for part of ditto (ie. late Sansome) 13s. 4d ***
Widdow BLEWETT fore part of ditto (ie. late Sansome) - 12s.00

Just started looking at the Wills for SANSUM - Longhope -

Mary SANSUM 1766 of Longhopew - mentions her lawful and natural sistrer Ann DOBBS

as some of the earlier Wills surnames aree spelt SANSOME/SANSOM/SAUNSOM etc.

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Marriage at Longhope 25 September 1766

Thomas JONES, batchelor of Ross, Margaret SANSUM - Spinster of Longhope, by Licence

There are two copies of the Licence and Bond on the records

One record, lists Margaret as SANSOM, aged 22, Spinster of Longhope
and the other as Margaret SANSUM

The Marriage Bond for James BRIGHT - 12 April 1760 to Jane SANSUM

Witness 1 : Josiah BRIGHT a Yeoman of Longhope

(witnesses: Robert HOOPER and William GRINDON)

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Josiah BRIGHT, Yeoman of Longhope (also married by Licence & Bond)

29 Otober 1759

to Sarah MOTTLEY

Witness 1: Thomas BRIGHT a Yeoman of HUNTLEY

On the actual marriage of Joseph BRIGHT to Sarah MOTLEY - witnesses: William GRINDON and Thomas SUFFE

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Then you have, Marriage Licence for James MOTTLEY of Ruardean, yeoman and Mary BRIGHT of Longhope : 1759

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Farmers making sure sons/daughters marry into farming families etc. (so land is kept in families etc)

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Checking all the BRIGHT marriage by Licence could help form family groups...

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Bristory History on Line

Longhope | British History Olnline

The farmer Thomas BRIGHT, one of the resident manorial baliffs in the mid 17th century, was reputed to be well over 110 years old at his death in 1708.

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If you use the Advance Search for witness' names - this always yields clues (The availability to search for witnesses is a very useful tool)

At any rate, it makes sense that Benjamin Moore's money came from his wife Jane Bright's family. It certainly is good that he made good use for it for his family. Thank you so much for translating words from the Benjamin's will for me - ie Cider Mill House and Press and Bake House. I struggled with the word "Cider" and couldn't figure out what sort of mill it was. I love the idea that they obviously must have had an apple orchard then and made their own booze haha. There must have been a lot of apple pies etc cooked by Jane, and I can see the kids getting into the orchard eating apples.
Thank you again for all your research, it has been a huge help.

Belinda.

However, there is a previous thread - by EandKA (no envelope next to name) dated and headed

2 September 2005 and heading

MOTTLEY (Ruardean) and BRIGHT (Longhope)

and includes the following inscriptions on the Longhope Village Website-All Saints' Churchyard

'Here Lieth the body of Sarah the wife of Josiah BRIGHT, of the parish of Taynton, and daughter of James and Mary MOTTLEY, of the Parish of Ruardeane, who died February 16th 1773 - aged 37

'Also in memory of Josiah BRIGHT, husband of the afore-said, who died March the 16th 1777 aged 52 years.

etc etc.

There are about 6 various BRIGHT groups listed graves/and memorials on the Longhope Village Website - and mentions BRIGHT's from Ross etc.

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Josiah BRIGHT's Will mentions his two brothers, Thomas & James BRIGHT etc. Very clear Will to read, with lots of family names.

Josiah BRIGHT married Sarah MOTTLEY 30 Octoer 1759 at Ruardean

Gloucestershire, England, Land Tax Records

1713-1833

Ancestry transcribed as

James BRIGHT
Residence Year: 1777
Residence Place: LONGHAM, Gloucestershire
Hundred: Duchy of Lancaster

/..... Inhabitants of Longhope etc.

James BRIGHT for part of late Sansome's 13s 4d.

There's a few others, lised as James BRIGHT, other J BRIGHT ETC.

Herefordshire, 1851 census.
Weston Under Penyard

Bill Mill House

BRIGHT

Thomas - Head, married, aged 66, Farmer of 130 acres 4 labourer, born Taynton, Glos ** c1785
Mary - wife - 55 - born Westbury
Mary - 29 - born Westbury
Elizabeth - dau - unmarried - 27 - born Walford, Hereford
Louisa - dau - unmarried - 26 - born ditto
Esther - daughter - unmarried - 24 - born ditto

** Thomas BRIGHT, christened at Taynton, 16 June 1785, parents: Thomas & Elizabeth

22 June 1784
Thomas BRIGHT of Tainton, married Elizabeth SMITH - at Tainton
witnesses: Sarah BRIGHT and Thomas HOOK

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Licence:

12 April 1760

James BRIGHT - aged 22, Batchelor, Yeoman, residence: Longhope
Jane SANSUM - aged 21, Spinster, residence: Longhope

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Apart from the 4 daughters, James & Jane BRIGHT had a son buried 29 August 1769 at Longhope

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If you Google:

Herefordshire Wills on line

and the herefordshire.gov.uk website

Wills Search | Wills search | Herefordshire Council

Lots of Bright Wills - with some useful information .
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James BRIGHT burial at Longhope - 5 September 1782

And the 1851 census
Plump Hill

Ancestry

MOORE

Benja - 27 Haulier Coal, all born Glos East Dean
Elizabeth - 26
Levenia - 5 (GRO Index, Lavenia MOORE - mother's maiden name PHELPS)
Jane - 4
William - 1
Mary Ann - 2 months

The Gloucestershire Genelogical Database

has 3 baptisms of Non-conformist parents: Benjamin MOORE of East Dean, Plump Hill (and Elizabeth)

William - 5 August 1849
Mary Ann - 23 Mar 1851
Thomas - 26 Sept 1852

Family Search has

Marriage, at Ross, Herefordshire, Oct-Nov-Dec Qtr 1845

Benjamin MOOR and Elizabeth PHELPS.

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Seems, Benjamin was transporting coal up and down the River Severn and this branch of the family were non-conformists!

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Gloucestershire, England Electoral Registers 1832-1974

1843 and 1844

Christian Name and Surname of each Voter at full length :MOORE Benjamin

Place of Abode: Westbury Brook, Plump Hill

Nature of Qualification: Freehold houses and land

Street Name etc: Westbury Brook - self and others.

(this property etc could be on old maps)

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Outside chance the surname MOORE/MOOR was an alias or illegitimate

My main interest is Benjamin. I wonder how accurate the marriage allegation transcriptions are as he is also listed as a cordwainer, but later in life a labourer. Either way, how did he get so much land/money? Inherited perhaps, but I can't find a mention of a Benjamin on possible wills on ancestry. I thought if I could break my brickwall and find a possible baptism I may have been able to find where he was from and how he got the land when to my mind he was working class?? His son John Moore was my ancestor. John's son George Moore (1837-1902) were innkeepers in the New Inn (today the "Heart of Oak") in Drybrook.

Marriage - 14 March 1789

Thomas HAIL aged 22, Batchelor, Blacksmith, residence: Longhope

married

Elizabeth BRIGHT - aged 21, Spinster, residence: LONGHOPE (again by Licence)

Then you can see by the baptism, the family names ....

e.g.

Baptisms at Longhope - Thomas & Elizabeth HAIL

Samuel, 1789, Jane 1791, etc etc.

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? There is a baptism at Monmouth 21 December 1797, When Ann MOORE had a son Benjamin christened

? family connection
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Benjamin who died in 1845 - seems quite a wealthy man.

For example,

Benjamin, mentions his Elder Son, John - and his wife Maria - who are on the 1841 Census with Benjamin

MOORE

Benjamin - 85
John - 45 - quarryman
Mary - 35 Ind
Benjamin - 15
Mary - 13
Timothy - 10
Jane - 9
William - 6
George - 3
James - 4months

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Marriage of Samuel MOORE - 4 June 1827 to Maria HATTON

However,

Baptism at Abenhjall - 1 June 1828

John MOORE (parents: Samuel (John) in brackets and Maria

? Do they go by the name of Samuel or John

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Talks about SIMMONDS and Betty his wife (his daughter) - christened 1789

etc etc

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There will be family names, which pass through each generation.

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Benjamin's first Wife Jane - appears to have been buried at Abenhall - 26 March 1802

and in 1805, Benjamine MOORE & Sarah PRIDE - have a daughter Ann - christened at Abenhall - 1805 - transript says by Sarah PRIDE

Thomas TEAGUE otherwise JONES - married to his daughter Mary

So cross checking the Will against the Forest of Dean records would be useful.