Simone x

the "best " line so far seems to be 2 BURNS families in Joyford / English Bicknor in 1841 - James and William - James claims to be from West Dean in 1851...

and in about the correct time a John BURNS as father to

Year 1822
Month Mar
Day 14
Parents Surname BURNS
Child Forename(s) Charles
Father's Forename(s) John
Mother's Forename(s) Phoebe
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Extraparochial lands adjoining English Bicknor
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister T Marwood Rector
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/5
Page No 27
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

1851 Joyford
John Barnes abt 1767 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Phebe Barnes abt 1789 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Barnes abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Simone x

I'd like to be able to offer a reason for the Marshall -> Ward change - its not surfaced yet :-(

Interesting the Nine-wells link, I went there a couple of years ago to see a cottage I heard so much about from my mother. The cottage was owned by William Watkins b c 1883 who was the son of Sarah Marshall/Ward/Watkins. Wonder if it is the same residence George died in?

More twists and turns than a soap opera my Forest families! I've no idea who I really am!

Thanks again - ace detective work!

Simone x

Year 1854
Month Aug
Day 22
Surname MARSHALL
Forename(s) Charles
Place of Residence Joyford
Age at death 5
Officiating Minister W.H.Taylor
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P82 IN 1/13
Page No 45
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1809
Month Oct
Day 24

Groom Surname COOPER
Groom Forename(s) William
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence Newland
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname JONES
Bride Forename(s) Alice
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Newland
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of Timothy Jones
Witness 2 Thomas Bond
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister T Matt Proctor vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 1/10
Page No 146
Parish/Chapel Newland

Year 1810
Month Feb
Day 25
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Elizabeth
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/4
Page No 26
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

Year 1811
Month May
Day 5
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Martha
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/4
Page No 29
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

Year 1812
Month Aug
Day 16
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Thomas
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/4
Page No 32
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

Year 1815
Month Apr
Day 9
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Hannah
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Extraparochial land adjoining this parish
Occupation Coal miner
Officiating Minister J Seager Curate
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/5
Page No 8
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

Year 1816
Month Jan
Day 11
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) George
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister P.M. Procter
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P82 IN 1/1
Page No 5
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1819
Month Aug
Day 15
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Hannah
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister S.F. Morgan
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P82 IN 1/1
Page No 15
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1821
Month Aug
Day 19
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) William
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Extraparochial lands
Occupation Coal miner
Officiating Minister Richard Davies Officiating Minister
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P138 in 1/5
Page No 26
Parish/Chapel English Bicknor

Year 1827
Month Dec
Day 2
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Jane
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister T.R. Garnsey
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 8212
Page No 1
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1827
Month Dec
Day 2
Parents Surname COOPER
Child Forename(s) Charlotte
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Alice
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister T.R. Garnsey
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 8212
Page No 1
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

Year 1863
Month Jul
Day 24
Parents Surname WARD
Child Forename(s) Charlotte
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Emma
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister W.H. Taylor
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/4
Page No 3
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

<investigating , looks promising >>>>>>>

Year 1850
Month Jun
Day 11
Parents Surname MARSHALL
Child Forename(s) Sarah
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Emma
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Top of Joyford
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister J Banks A.M. Perp[etual] Curate
Event type Baptism
Memoranda P[rivately] B[aptised]
Notes
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/3
Page No 29
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

1851
George Marshal abt 1820 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Marshal abt 1824 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Marshal abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Marshal abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

Year 1848
Month Dec
Day 24

Groom Surname MARSHALL
Groom Forename(s) George
Groom Age at Marriage full
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence West Dean
Groom Father's Surname Byrne
Groom Father's Forename(s) John
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Freeholder

Bride Surname COOPER
Bride Forename(s) Emily
Bride Age at Marriage full
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence West Dean
Bride Father's Surname Cooper
Bride Father's Forename(s) William
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Colllier

Licence or Banns [not stated]
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of William Cooper
Witness 2 Mark of Charlotte Cooper
Other witnesses None
Officiating Minister James Banks M.A. Perp. Curate
Event type Marriage
Memoranda -
Transcriber's Notes -
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/7
Page No 24
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

I have the following family

1861 Joyford
George Ward abt 1819 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Amey Ward abt 1823 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
George Ward abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Hanah Ward abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Ward abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
William Ward abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1871 Joyford West Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Ward abt 1824 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
George Ward abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Hannah Ward abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Sarah Ward abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Sharlotte Ward abt 1863 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
William Ward abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son

Emma Ward b c 1824 is my ggg grandmother, her daughter Sarah my gg grandmother. I have not been able to pinpoint a birth for Sarah Ward in the indexes or parish records, so I sent for birth cert for her sister Charlotte. It states her mother is Emma, formerly Cooper. I can't seem to find anything on Ancestry or on here for Emma. Does anyone know who she may be? Thought Sarah may have been born as Sarah Cooper, and there are a couple of possibles in indexes for 1849, but not so sure.

As always, any advice gratefully received.

Simone x