Edward and Ann WELLING ( or variation !) are also in the area

Year 1802
Month Jul
Day 11
Parents Surname WELLING
Child Forenames Ann
Fathers Forenames Edward
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Wm Gyllett A.M. vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P83 IN 1/1
Page Number 180
Parish Chapel Churcham

Year 1803
Month Jun
Day 12
Parents Surname WELLIN
Child Forenames Ann
Fathers Forenames Edward
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Wm Gyllett A.M. vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P83 IN 1/1
Page Number 181
Parish Chapel Churcham

Year 1806
Month Apr
Day 24
Grooms Surname TELLIN
Grooms Forenames Edward
Grooms Age
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence Newland
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname BAYTON
Brides Forenames Anne
Brides Age
Brides Condition spinster
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Newland
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Emma Tyler
Witness 2 Katherine Llewellin
Other Witnesses Edward Bayton Thos Bond
Officiating Minister Tay[lo]r Matt[he]w Procter vicar
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 1/10
Page Number 97
Parish Chapel Newland

I had come to the same conclusion re Sarah Green and Edward Welling but wasn't sure how Sarah Green ended up marrying in Churcham if she was born in Hartpury. I haven't found a baptism record for Sarah born about 1803 which was my original enquiry last year.

Sarah goes on to have a daughter Keziah in 1833 and this Keziah marries Samuel Poyner in 1864 in Huntley. Before her marriage Keziah has a son James Llewellyn and he is my great grandfather.

So is it possible the other Keziah born about 1811 / 1812 is the sister of Sarah born to Edward and Sarah? And why is the only evidence of her marriage to Thomas Partridge on the Familysearch website?

Year 1802
Month Feb
Day 16
Grooms Surname WELLING
Grooms Forenames Edward
Grooms Age
Groom Condition
Grooms Occupation
Grooms Residence Of this parish
Grooms Fathers Surname
Grooms Fathers Forenames
Grooms Fathers Occupation
Brides Surname GREEN
Brides Forenames Sarah
Brides Age
Brides Condition
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Of this Parish
Brides Fathers Surname
Brides Fathers Forenames
Brides Fathers Occupation
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 William Rowles
Witness 2
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Gyllett Vicar
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P83 IN 1/4
Page Number 14
Parish Chapel Churcham

1803 Sarah ????

1805 LEWELLING Thomas Edward Sarah Churcham
1810 LEWWELLING Edward Edward Sarah Churcham
1816 LLEWELLYN William Edward Sarah Churcham Labourer Churcham

Grandchild ???? daughter of Sarah
1822 LEWELLING Hannah [not stated] Sarah Churcham Servant Churcham

1841
Sarah Lewellen abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Sarah Lewellen abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Samuel Lewellen abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Kezia Lewellen abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Henry Lewellen abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

Year: 1848
Month: May
Day: 18
Surname: LLEWELLIN
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Westbury
Age_at_death: 72 [ inferred 1776]
Officiating_Minister: R R Hurle Off[iciatin]g Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/8
Page_No: 182
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

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Year: 1851
Month: Feb
Day: 4
Surname: LLEWELLYN
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Westbury
Age_at_death: 48
Officiating_Minister: T L Montifine
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/16
Page_No: 1
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

Thanks for your reply Slowhands.

I probably should have mentioned that there are 2 Keziah Llewellyn's. The marriage you have found is for a younger Keziah, she is born in 1833 and is my gg grandmother.

The marriage I was looking for in 1852 was for a Keziah llewellyn born about 1811 / 1812. I am trying to find out if the two are related. Both these marriages are on the Familysearch website.

Name:Thomas Partridge
Spouse's Name:Hezia Llewellyn

Event Date: 29 Feb 1852
Event Place: Huntley, Gloucester, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:I01908-6
System Origin:England-ODM
GS Film number:991288

NO BDM cross ref found....

We will need to look at the Huntley transcription records - I have looked at a version of the transcribed data from 2006 and in 1852 only 1 marriage is recorded in the file - this seems rather odd. Perhaps a page of the register was missed or missing, although the transcribed page nos etc look OK.

From memory Huntley was one of the earliest transcript files that I worked on with Dave - late 2005 / early 2006 ? -- no surprises that Ruardean was the first datasets that we manipulated from word to excel and then via a few steps into the databases that we access today

I probably should have mentioned that there are 2 Keziah Llewellyn's. The marriage you have found is for a younger Keziah, she is born in 1833 and is my gg grandmother.

The marriage I was looking for in 1852 was for a Keziah llewellyn born about 1811 / 1812. I am trying to find out if the two are related. Both these marriages are on the Familysearch website.

On the Familysearch website I found the marriage of Thomas Partridge to Hezia (should be Keziah) Llewellyn on 29 February 1852 in Huntley. I have tried to find this marriage in the Huntley parish records on this website without any success.

I have all the census records for Thomas and Keziah and from the 1861 census onwards they are living as man and wife. Is there a reason why this marriage is missing from the Huntley records?

1835 LLEWELLIN Ellen [not stated] Keziah Churcham [not stated] Churcham
1842 LLEWELLYN Mary [base born] Keziah [?] Workhouse Westbury Single Woman Westbury on Severn
1845 LLEWELLYN Thomas [base born] Keziah Workhouse Westbury Single Woman Westbury on Severn
1846 LLEWELLYN James [not stated] Keziah Huntley single woman Huntley
1851 LLEWELLYN Hannah [not stated] Keziah Huntley single woman Huntley

1841 Ampney nr Northwood Green
Thomas Partridge abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Huntley, Gloucestershire
Mary Partridge abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Huntley, Gloucestershire

1841 Westbury Workhouse
Kezia Slwellyn abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn,

1841
Sarah Lewellen abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Sarah Lewellen abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Samuel Lewellen abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Kezia Lewellen abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Henry Lewellen abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

1851
Thomas Partridge abt 1808 Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England Head Huntley, Gloucestershire
Heaiah Lewwellin abt 1811 Churcham, Gloucestershire, England Housekeeper Huntley, Gloucestershire
Thomas Lewwellin abt 1845 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Boer Barn Son Huntley, Gloucestershire
James Lewwellin abt 1847 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Boer Barn Son Huntley, Gloucestershire
Hannah Lewwellin abt 1849 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Boer Barn Daur Huntley, Gloucestershire
Not Babtized Lewwellin abt 1850 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Boer Barn Daur Huntley, Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Partridge abt 1809 Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England Head Huntley, Gloucestershire
Keziah Partridge abt 1811 Churcham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Huntley, Gloucestershire
Thomas Partridge abt 1846 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Son Huntley, Gloucestershire
Anna Partridge abt 1850 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Huntley, Gloucestershire
Eliza Partridge abt 1851 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Huntley, Gloucestershire
Ann Partridge abt 1854 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Huntley, Gloucestershire

POYNER Samuel
LLEWELLYN Keziah
Gloucester Huntley St John the Baptist
1864 46 No 1 86

ties in with

Name: Keziah Llewellyn & Samuel Poyner
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1864
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 441

and

Year 1864
Month Dec
Day 18
Grooms Surname POYNER
Grooms Forenames Samuel
Grooms Age 27
Groom Condition bachelor
Grooms Occupation labourer
Grooms Residence Huntley
Grooms Fathers Surname POYNER
Grooms Fathers Forenames Thomas
Grooms Fathers Occupation labourer
Brides Surname LLEWELLYN
Brides Forenames Keziah
Brides Age 28
Brides Condition spinster
Brides Occupation
Brides Residence Huntley
Brides Fathers Surname [not stated]
Brides Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Brides Fathers Occupation [not stated]
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 Henry Llewellyn x
Witness 2 Elizabeth Roberts[?] x
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister P Rivers de Jersey curate
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P184 IN 1/9
Page Number 43
Parish Chapel Huntley

1871
Samuel Poyner 33
Kitty Poyner 34
James Llewellyn 12
William Poyner 6
Tom Poyner 2

I have all the census records for Thomas and Keziah and from the 1861 census onwards they are living as man and wife. Is there a reason why this marriage is missing from the Huntley records?

This may be one to consider:-

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Hannah b 1822 Churcham d 1903 Clearwell,
Samuel b 1827 Westbury on Severn (surname Welling on baptism record),
Thomas b 1830 d 1833 both in Westbury on Severn (surname Wellin on baptism record),
Keziah b 1833 Gloucester St Johns m Samuel Poyner in 1864 d 1912,
Henry b 1837 Churcham and
William b 1846 d 1903 both in Westbury on Severn

In the 1841 census Sarah (35) is living in Westbury on Severn with another Sarah Llewellen (age 65 possibly her mother), Samuel, Keziah and Henry. Hannah is a servant living in Huntley.

I believe the older Sarah dies in 1848 in Westbury age 72 which would mean she was born about 1776. I have the death certificate and there is a matching burial record in the Westbury parish records. The informant on the death certificate is an Ann Llewellyn who I haven’t been able to connect with this family yet. The death certificate also says Sarah is the widow of Edward Llewellen.

The younger Sarah seems to die in Jan 1851 age 48 which would indicate a birth about 1803. The informant on her death certificate is a Jane Lane who post 1851 becomes the housekeeper of William Ayland. The relevance of this is that in the 1851 census Hannah, Samuel, Henry and William are living with William Ayland in Newland. Their surname has been written as Willen.

I have been searching for Sarah’s baptism record in order to confirm whether the older Sarah is her mother and hence her father was an Edward Llewellen. Despite several trips to the Gloucester Records Office I have not been able to find a baptism record for Sarah. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do next?