Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Kezia COLLEN Parkend c1889 ( traveller family)

Kezia COLLEN Parkend c1889 ( traveller family) (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:32:14 +0000

1891 Caravan nr Allestone
James Coleing abt 1858 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Lydney, Gloucestershire Tinman
Mary Coleing abt 1860 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lydney, Gloucestershire
James Coleing abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
John Coleing Jabt 1884 Landogo, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Lydney, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Coleing abt 1886 Cinderfort, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire
Keziah Coleing abt 1889 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lydney, Gloucestershire

Traveller family (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:19:07 +0000

another example of a team effort on this Forum to solve a "block" ....

James COLEN 1831 - Littledean (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:51:19 +0000

FOD records

Baptism at Littledean - 20 February 1831

James COLEN,

Father's Forename: John

Mother's Forename: Hannah

Residence: Little dean

Occupation: Tinman

Gloucestershire Baptism Index

Baptism at Dursley St James The Great - 24 February 1833

Phoebe COLLEN - parents John (Hawker) & Hannah

Kezia born Parkend c1866 (reply)

smc23 — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:03:37 +0000

A big thank you to everyone who responded to my plea for help, the speed & enthusiasm of all respondents was wonderful & totally unexpected. I believe that Kezia Colens & Dangerfield Stanley are my missing great grandparents for whom I have been searching several years so it is thrilling to have them at last. I am now looking forward to visiting Parkend sometime in November. Sue

COLIN - 1861 census (STANLEY- Romany wesbite) (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:56:46 +0000

There are trees on Ancestry (mentioned before Daniel DANGERFIELD STANLEY - born Chilbolten)

and the links give him on various census, including the 1861 Census, in Hampshire, and he is a Basket Maker - with family of Hawkers, some born in Portsmouth Hants.

Probably the marriage 'Chris' found would prove decisive.

Romany jib (takes a few seconds to download)

http://gypsyjib.wetpaint.com/thread/4400448/Help+with+this+family+line+please++*Stanley...

and

http://website.lineone.net/~rtfhs/gypsy.html

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1861 Census, Little Dean (very faint original)

COLIN

James - 30 - Basket Maker, born Little Dean
Jane - 30 - born Basingstoke, Hants
Soptrick (Sophia) - 6 born East Dean
Joda (Rhoda) - 4 - born Pontypool, Radnorshire
James - 2 - born East Dean
Samuel - 6 months, born East Dean

? wonder whether the name comes from the Irish name COLLEEN

Kezia KIMBER / COLLEN born Parkend c1865- 1930 (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:10:55 +0000

for clarity Clifton upon Teme near the Malverns
{Classic Traveller route}

1911
KIMBER GEORGES M 1863 48 Bromyard Herefordshire
KIMBER KEZIER F 1862 49 Bromyard Herefordshire

Name: Kizziah Kimber
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1930
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 105

Kezia born Parkend c1866 (reply)

smc23 — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:58:13 +0000

Hi everyone thanks for the very quick responses. I have always known my great grandmother as Kizziah Kimber (death cert). In 1911 she was living at Clifon on Teme with her 'Husband' George KImber she gave her place of birth as Gloucester c1866. My grandfather Henry Kimber was born in Brighton c1889 & his brother Joseph Kimber in Portsmouth c1886. I have never found a marriage for George & Kizziah or births for Joseph & Henry or earlier census entries for them - then I found the 1901 entry for Daniel Stanley Kezia Joseph & Henry which I think must be my missing family. I have started searching for the Stanley family with no luck so far, Kezia gives her place of birth as Parkend in 1901 thus my entry in this forum. She died aged 66 in 1930. Sue

Dangerfield STANLEY c1864 (Portsea District) Hampshire (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:36:26 +0000

Hi Chris, Clever!

How about this 1871 Census

Moordown No. 1

Dankfel BARNEY - (Dangerfield BARNEY)

Hampshire
Holdenhurst
District 15

Note: could not ascertain further particulars (this is written on the census)

Henry BARNEY - 20 - or 30 - Traveller, born Milsted Hants
Emma - 25 - born Winchester
Dankfel BARNEY - 5 - born Cowes Isle of Wight
Walter BARNEY - 4 months Cowes Isle of Wight
Harriet BARNEY - widow - 69 Traveller, unknown

This does need 'a few good heads' on this one - as I keep turning up things like this

1891 Census, Portsea, Hampshire

107 Twyford Road

Henry STANLEY, head - 59, Hawker & Chair Mender, born Dorset, Totland
Anna - 61 - Chair Mender, born Hants, Portsea
Eliza - mother - widow - (can't see age ?9) - born Dorset, Totland

and just above

another STANLEY family

James - 42, Horse Dealer, born Hants, Chilwick
Caroline - 36 - born Sussex, Southwick
James - 17 - Assistant to Father - all born Hants Portsmouth
Walter - 15 (family name?)
Francis W - 6
Henry A - 3
Leonard A - 1
James W SAUNDERS, adopted 12 - Scholar

This family are in Dorset on the 1861 census, and does also have a son named Dangerfield STANLEY age 14 - born Hants, Southampton

STANLEY James 39, Brush Maker, born Hants, Winchester
Sarah - 39 + other siblings
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1881 Census, Hampshire, Portsea

21 Merry Row

Henry STANLEY, 50 - Chair Mender Cane - all born Portsea, Hampshire
Hannah - 58

22 Merry Row

Eliza STANLEY, widow 72

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There are quite a few STANLEYS' in Portsea, in Tents and Vans - in the fields (1881 CENSUS) - Hawkers - including

Lawrence Road, - Tent in Field

STANLEY

John - married - 48, Basket Maker, born Brighton, Sussex
Clara - 47 - all born Portsmouth
William - 19 - Brickmaker
Dangerfield STANLEY - 16 - Brickmaker (transcribed on Ancestry as Dayerfield STANLEY)
Lias ? - 14
Leister - 12
John - 12
Betsey - 7
Thomas - son - Wdr 22

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This name appears on Church of Latter Day Saints

Daniel Dangerfield STANLEY, christening, 15 July 1804, Chilbolton, Southampton, parents Saml & Elizabeth

and

Dangerfield STANLEY - 17 February 1834, Milbrook, Hampshire

Kezia born Parkend c1866 (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:21:44 +0000

This weird one on FreeBMD?

Marriages Dec 1883
Collens Kezia Guildford 2a 123
STANLEY Dangerfield Guildford 2a 123

Births Mar 1864
STANLEY Dangerfield Portsea 2b 414

Perhaps he didn't like his given name?

Kezia COLLEN Parkend c1865 ( traveller family) (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:44:46 +0000

Given the Whitesmith trade later - the Hawker/Peddler connection is worth following...

Year: 1865
Month: Feb
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: COLEN
Child_Forenames: Keziah
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Moseley
Occupation: Hawker
Officiating_Minister: Jno[John] Jos[ep]h Ebsworth Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daug[hte]r of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 100
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1871 Oldcroft
James Coalend 42 Littledean Tinman
Jane Coalend 42 Basingstoke Hampshire Peddler
Sophia Coalend 16 EastDean Peddler
Rader Coalend 14 Pontypool ? Scholar
James Coalend 12 East dean Peddler
Susana Coalend 10 Lea Bailey
Kezia Coalend 6 West Dean
Joseph Coalend 2

1891 Caravan on Usk Rd
James Collins abt 1830 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Howick, Monmouthshire Tin worker
Jane Collins abt 1830 Moseley Green, Gloucestershire, England Wife Howick, Monmouthshire
Jane Collins abt 1874 Putley, Herefordshire, England Daughter Howick, Monmouthshire
George Hull abt 1881 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Grandson Howick, Monmouthshire

1901 Caravan
James Colin abt 1831 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Much Marcle, Herefordshire Tin worker
Jane Colin abt 1831 Clarke Green, Hampshire, England Wife Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Daniel Colin abt 1893 Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Grandson Much Marcle, Herefordshire
George Hall abt 1882 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Grandson Much Marcle, Herefordshire

Daniel & Kezia STANLEY - 1901 Census (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:23:09 +0000

Hi Marilyn,
thanks for highlighting the % method to me !
Clearly being a "bloke" I didn't need to read the "tips" very well.....

Once again I learn from this great furum; Kezia/Keziah is another name I've never heard of but clearly quite common in the PRs.

Sue, if at first you don't get the "right" results when searching I suggest you look for all possible spelling variations of the name. It's quite likely that errors will have occurred during the various Census returns & PRs, eg "Kezia" may possibly give different search "hits" to Keziah, etc. Hopefully not but better to be sure.

As MPG has said please supply any known relevant family names etc to aid the search.
Do you have her marriage or burial details, please ? I guess not but even small clues can help.

Daniel & Kezia STANLEY - 1901 Census (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:19:01 +0000

the search facility does not allow me to search just for Kezia

All you have to do is put the wildcard symbol % in the surname box - see Search Tips

Posssible two at the moment: Keziah COLEN - in 1865 and Anna Keziah HARDWICK- 1864, but obviously these are just 'contenders'

assume you mean

1901 East Deane

Woodside Road

Daniel STANLEY - 35, Whitesmith, born London, Battersea (circa 1866) (Whitesmith - makes pots and pans)
Kezia STANLEY - 35 - born Glos. Parkend
Joseph STANLEY, 14 - General Labourer, born Hants, Portmouth
Henry STANLEY - 11, born Sussex, Brighton

What other information do you have after 1901, and this is proving 'tricky' to find any leads i.e. birth of children, marriage/1911 - and previous census'

'sometimes' people moved and changed Surnames. I know this only too well as my x Grandfather did - from WICKENDEN to GREEN, and moved County!

Kezia born Parkend c1866

smc23 — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:52:55 +0000

I am trying to trace my great grandmother Kezia but no luck prior to the 1901 census where she gives her place of birth as Parkend Gloucestershire, I assume this is the village in the Forest of Dean as she is living in East Deane in 1901. The search facility does not allow me to search just for Kezia & I don't know her surname, could anyone check the records for me? I would be eternally gratefull for any help with this. Sue