Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Thomas Stevens 1809 Hartpury

Thomas Stevens 1809 Hartpury (reply)

unknown — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:29:11 +0000

Hello Brian,
Many thanks for getting in touch, greetings from England at the beginning of Fall.
Since you read that particular thread I have, thanks to jmay (you will see her input also)been able to accurately trace our particular Stevens line. Our Thomas was son of Jemima Stevens and he was christened at Flaxley and later married Maria Hughes. The family moved out of The Forest and my line went to Cirencester and thence on to me and my present family. I'm afraid we are therefore different Stevens lines, so sorry.
Good luck with it all Brian, it sure does become addictive!!
All the best - David

Charles BLICK/Elizabeth STEVENS/LATIMER (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:57:25 +0000

1871 Census, St John the Baptist
Union Street

STEPHENS

William - mar - 42 Fisherman - born Glos. Ashleworth
Eliza - 35 - ditto
Clara - 10 - born Gloster
Mary J - 8 - born Gloster
William - 5 - born Glos.
Eliza STEPHENS - Lodger, unmarried - 32 - Seamstress - born Glos. Hartpury
Alfred W STEPHENS - son - 5 - born Glos.

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1861 Census, Glos St Catherine

Charles BLICK - 27 - Plasterer Journeyman - born Gloucester
Eliza - 24 - born Hartpury (c1837)[/size] *[/i]*****
Alfred W - 1
Mary and Ann (twins) - 3 weeks (there is an Ann BLICK age 18 at 20 Union Street Glos 1881 census)

(also on Gloucestershirebdm - at Glos. St Nicholas, there is a Gertrude - 1866 - mother's maiden name STEPHENS)

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**** Eliza STEPHENS is on the 1851 Census for Glos. St John The Baptist, age 16, Gentleman's Servant, born Glos. Hartpury - working for John LEWIS, Plumber and Glazier

FOD records: Christened 1 March 1835 - at Hartpury, parents Emmanuel (Mason) and Elizabeth

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1851 Census
Glos St Catherine

Water Street

George BOWN - 40 - Carpenter, Journeyman, born Gloucester *
Sarah Anne - 36 - ditto
Charles BLICK - 17 - Plasterer's Labourer, born Gloucester

*not sure if this George belong's to my BOWN family who were all Carpenters from Gloucestershire
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Gloucestershire Baptism Index

Charles BLICK christened at Glos. St Mary De Lobe - 29 December 1833

parents: Charles (occupation on disc as PARGITER) - and Ann (residence St Catherine's)

and 3 more children christened at Glos. St Mary De Lobe - (residence St Catherine's)

Ann - 4 July 1830
Mary - 15 January 1832
Robert William - 10 March 1836

and father's occupation given each time as PARGITER

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1841 Census, Glos St.Catherine

BLICK

Charles -55 - Plasterer - born in County
Ann - 35 - not born in County
Ann - 10 - all born in County
Mary - 9
Charles - 7
Robert William - 5
Alfred Thomas -1 (Gloucestershirebdm - 1840, Gloucester St Nicholas - mother's maiden name LATIMER)

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1851 Census, (Ancestry transcribed as BLICHE)

Water Street

BLICKE

Charles - 48 - Plaster/Pargetteer/Master Employing 6 men - born Gloucester, Rodborough
Ann - 47 - born Somerset, Bathe
Ann - 20 - all born Gloucester
Mary - 19
Robert Wm - 15
Louisa - 6
James - 4

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1861 Census, Glos, Barton St Mary
6 Millbrook Street

BLICK

Charles - 68 - Plasterer - born Newent (not sure if this is correct and it was a 'ditto' from the people one house above... ****
Ann - 67 - born Somerset, Bath
James H - 24 - born Gloucester

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FoD records

Charles BLICK of St Catherine Parish

married Ann LATIMER (residence College Precints) -

Glos. St Mary De Lobe 26 July 1829 - by Banns

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Family Search Church of Latter Day Saints

Baptism at Rodborough, Gloucestershire - 24 October 1802

Charles BLICK - parents Charles & Rebecca

Charles BLICK married Rebecca PINNOCK - at Rodborough - 2 May 1802

siblings

Jane - 1 June 1806 - at Minchinhampton
Martha - 12 February 1809 - at Minchinhampton
Thomas - 31 January 1813 - at Minchinhampton
Mary - 28 April 1820 - at Rodborough

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Gloucestershire Burial Index

Rebecca BLICK (Widow) - age 52, 2 November 1826 - Minchinhampton

and then two Charles BLICK's

one age 45 - 18 October 1825 at Stroud (same area)

Charles BLICK - 5 February 1822, Gloucester County Prison

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1871 Census, Warwick, B-ham
Pershore Street

Charles BLICK - 37 - Plasterer, born Gloucester
Sarah BLICK - 37 - born Worcestershire, Hartlebury

1881 Census, Worcester

Sarah BLICK - Head - Widow - 52 - Laundress - born Worcestershire, Hartlebury

FreeBDM - Death J/F/M Qtr 1878 - Worcester

Charles BLICK - abt 1834 - age 44

Emanuel Stevens 1811 Hartpury (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:41:00 +0000

Hi Brian, welcome to this great website and forum !
I suggest it's unlikely David will see your post, as he's not visited the forum for since January. However if he's still using the same home email address you may still be able to contact him straight to his pc Inbox, without him having to see your forum post. If you click on his blue username, you'll see it hyperlinks to a usefull page that shows his forum activity, and also an envelope icon for you to send him a direct mail. Hopefully that will help you.
Meanwhile please carry on using this website, there's so much to see, plus the forum of course.
Atb Jeff

ps not sure if you've seen it but this site's PRs include this Baptism:

Record_ID: 165102
Entry_Number:
Year: 1811
Month: Jun
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: STEVENS
Child_Forenames: Emanuel
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm Bushell Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 39
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: S315

His possible Burial (shame no age given)

Record_ID: 111647
Entry_Number: 630
Year: 1853
Month: Dec
Day: 1
Surname: STEPHENS
Forenames: Emanuel
Residence: Hartpury
Age_at_death: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: Charles Crawley Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/8
Page_No: 79
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: S315

May I suggest you experiment using this site's great Advanced Search feature when searching the PRs. This allows minimum info to be input, eg can input just "St" to get all variations of Stevens spelling. Using this to search all Baptisms for "Th" & "An" "St" gives this brother for Emanuel, as per the earlier posts;

Record ID 165062
Entry Number
Year 1809
Month Jul
Day 23
Parents Surname STEVENS
Child Forenames Thomas
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Wm Bushell Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda Son of
Notes
Register Reference P165 IN 1/3
Page Number 35
Parish Chapel Hartpury

Sadly I cannot see any clear "favourites" for the Marriage of Thomas & Anne, there are a few possibles in the database but all nearby Gloucester not Hartpury so ?

Thomas Stevens 1809 Hartpury (reply)

Cyclops — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:44:00 +0000

Hi David...looking at your posting of 2011

I descend from Emanuel Stephens b about 1811 Hartpury, all I have is his parents as Thomas Stephens and Ann

Emanuel Stephens was born abt 1911 Hartpury and died (death record) 24 Nov 1853 Woolridge. He was a bricklayer, and married an Elizabeth Hiam. (bricklayer family)

Their daughter Elizabeth married or lived common law to Charles Blick a plasterer in Gloucester. They split and she raised her only son under the name Stephens, although he was registered as Alfred William Blick.

Any more info on Emanuel Stephens/Stevens and his ancestry would be greatly appreciated.

Brian.... British Columbia, Canada

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

jmay — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:23:44 +0000

Jeff,
Well'm not convinced that I have done it but somehow the information has been deleted. Thank you SO much.

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:51:16 +0000

Not stupid at all, even geniuses like what I am make mistakes, sorry ERRORS, sometimes. Just blame the pc !
To change it click "Edit" at the bottom right of the post.

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

jmay — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:47:34 +0000

Jeff,
thank you so much for your warning. How stupid of me. Am panicking now as I can't seem to get it cancelled. Help !

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:30:17 +0000

Hi jmay,
please be advised that its unwise to post any personal details such as email addresses on any internet forum, I suggest you delete your details asap. I know we are friendly decent people on here but this forum and it's threads are open to viewing to anyone around the world. Sadly some people including criminals use software to look for such things with a view to sending junk emails and even worse wrt your private details such as bank access. Although not via this forum I've had a pc harddrive irrepairably damaged due to a similar very brief yet highly damaging scam attack from such criminal activities, I wouldn't wish the resultant personal damage and loss of personal information on anyone (except the culprits that is!).
If you click on a the envelope icon next to a forum user's name you will access the private direct contact form. Please use this to send private information as this will go direct into t'other users home email inbox and not onto the forum.

I've used this facility to send this message to your inbox too, you may well see that too, perhaps even before this post.

This direct email system is also worth using if users are struggling to contact other forum users via these threads; you can see what that person's activity has been on the forum so gauge whether they're a regular user hence the likelihood they'll see your posts. http://www.forest-of-dean.net/?Help_FAQ_General_FAQ#faq6

Hope this helps, its great to see your Stevens research linking nicely with David.
Jeff.

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

jmay — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:21:27 +0000

David,
This is great. My e-mail is [e-mail address deleted by admin] Look forward to comparing our information !

Thomas STEVENS 1810 Flaxley = prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:35:50 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=22635

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

unknown — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:08:36 +0000

You have cracked it! - I worked out my previous link was not right but was unsure where to go, you have solved this particular problem - brilliant!! Yes, it's my family too and runs in a direct line through to the present day, down to my grand son Logan Stevens who is rising two!
I've plenty of information and pics of my Grand Dad Frank (who was Thomas and Maria's grandson and went through the First War. You are more than welcome to all and any of this, just drop me an e-mail.
Thanks a million, you are a star!!
David

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

jmay — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:03:10 +0000

Thank you for the e-mail. 'My' Thomas Stevens I have as base born son of Jemima Stevens born 1810, christened at Flaxley. He married Maria Hughes from Minety and they went later to live at 32, Cricklade Street, Cirencester. Son Thomas was nine years old when shown as a nailmaker. All this is, of course as usual, open for discussion but I am as sure as I can be that this is my line. Hope this might be of some help.

Thomas Stevens the Nailer (reply)

unknown — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:13:58 +0000

I'd just like to say 'as a new boy to this Forum' how helpful members have been. The upside is all the information you have provided, the downside is it will probably take fifty years to go through it all - I've started!
I think I have e-mailed all who posted replies, if I've missed anyone - my aplologies,
Thanks all!!!!
David

STEVENS/STEPHENS Hartpury + SURMAN (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:06:43 +0000

Assume this is your family, 1841 - Census, Glos. Hartpury

Ann STEPHENS - age 55 - age lab. born in County (c1786)
Thomas STEPHENS - age 32 c 1809
William STEPHENS - age 20 **

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1851 Census, Hartpury

STEPHENS

William - 27 - all born Hartpury
Ann - 28
Eliza - 5 (Gloucestershire BDM - Eliza STEPHENS, mother's maiden name SURMAN - 1846)
Harriet - 2
Willie - 2 months
Charlotte SURMAN, Niece - 12

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many STEPHENS in Hartpury

1841 Census

STEPLER (transcribed as) means STEPHENS

Emanual - 30
Elizabeth - 30
Emma - 8
Eliza - 6
Charles - 3 months

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Gloucestershire Marriage Index: - at Gloucester St Mary De Lobe - 12 October 1831

Emanual STEPHENS of Barton Street, and Mary Elizabeth HIAM, of Barton St Mary

and William STEPHENS married Ann SURMAN - at St Mary De Lobe - 1844 (Gloucestershire BDM)

FOD records, have a baptism at Hartpury, 18 June 1820 - for Anne SURMAN - parents Aaron (Blacksmith) and Hannah

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if you look at Gloucestershire BDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

and check for children of STEPHENS, mother's maiden name HIAM

this ties up with census information

Charles - 1841, Gloucester Redmarley Office
Female - 1844 - ditto
John - 1848 -ditto

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1851 Census, Hartpury

Ann STEPHENS (age 66) c1785 is at Brick House, workman, widow of a Labourer, born Glostershire

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another household

Emanual STEPHENS - a bricklayer age 40 and born Hartpury
Elizabeth - 41
Charles - 10
Mary Ann - 6
John - 3

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1861 Census, Hartpury

Daufoot? Lane

Ann STEPHENS - Head, age 75, born Hardwick Glos

(Burial on FOD records - at Hartpury, Ann STEPHENS age 95 - 4 November 1874)

so still alive in 1871, Hartpury Census

Catsbury Road

Ann STEPHENS - Widow - 85, Ag. Lab. born Hardwick, Glos

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? marriage would have been around c 1786 + 20 years = 1806

first child Thomas (named after Father - christened in Hartpury 1809)

Gloucestershire Marriage Index ????

Marriage at Quedegley, Glos. 4 May 1807 (moving upwards to Gloucester from Hardwicke)

Thomas STEPHENS & Ann DREW

The male line seems to move about a bit (one being a Bricklayer and working in Gloucester) - may have come round the Severn!

Thomas Stevens (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:09:22 +0000

Hi David, welcome to this wonderful resource & PR database.
Clearly your g-g-grandfather:

Record_ID: 165062
Entry_Number:
Year: 1809
Month: Jul
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: STEVENS
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm Bushell Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 35
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: S315

When searching the PRs it's worth using the Advanced Search facility, have you tried it ?.
eg I can search for all Baptism Records for all the Thomas & Ann Stevens on the database, giving 33 in total. Note they include name variations eg Anne and Hannah. Some of the earliest date from 1712 and are not too far away in Ledbury, but I suggest those most relevant to you are from Ashleworth/Hartpury as follows:

283211 1746 STEVENS Thomas, Thomas & Hannah, Ashleworth
283239 1749 STEVENS James, Thomas & Hannah, Ashleworth
165062 1809 STEVENS Thomas, Thomas & Ann, Hartpury (clearly "your" Thomas)
165102 1811 STEVENS Emanuel, Thomas & Ann, Hartpury (probable sibling?)
294014 1825 STEVENS Ann, Thomas & Ann, Wall Hills Division, Gamekeeper, Ledbury
272040 1857 STEVENS Ellen, Thomas & Ann, Hartpury, Labourer, Hartpury

If you repeat this search you can "open" particular PRs to gain more details.

Its also worth looking for STEPHENS, a common derivative, giving:
101268 1821 STEPHENS Frances Ann, Thomas & Ann, Town of Newent, Baker, Newent
101281 1821 STEPHENS Francis Ann, Thomas & Ann, [not stated], [not stated], Newent

Similarly using Advanced Search for possible Marriages, I suggest these may be relevant:

1010895 1605 STEVENS Thomas, BIRCKE Anne, Gloucester St John the
Baptist
48357 1675 STEVENS Thomas, PARKER Ann, Bromsberrow
72202 1760 STEVENS Thomas Castlemorton HILL, Anne Longdon Longdon
72209 1762 STEVENS Thomas Castlemorton HILL, Anne Longdon Longdon
105051 1776 STEVENS Thomas of this parish, COOKE Ann of the parish of St.
Michael in the city, Gloucester St Aldate

(Bromsberrow & less-so Longdon are a few miles North of Hartpury towards Ledbury). I think these are more likely;

24481 1745 STEPHENS Thomas, PROSSOR Hannah, Newent
70136 1753 STEPHENS Thomas Hasfield, TURNER Ann Hasfield, Hasfield
115823 1792 STEPHENS Thomas Gloucester, FREEMAN Anne Gloucester, Gloucester St Michael
113241 1794 STEPHENS Thomas St John the Baptist Parish, BARNWOOD Ann St John the Baptist
Parish, Gloucester St John the Baptist
110895 1797 STEPHENS Thomas of this Parish, WILKINS Ann of the same Parish, Gloucester St Nicholas

Again, this search can be repeated for possible Burial Records.

CLEARLY, nothing absolutely concrete here, these are just pointers for consideration, but hopefully will help in your research.

Good luck.

PS As per my email earlier, don't forget to search the rest of this great site apart from the PRs section. For example within the Documents section are the Bigland Transcripts including Hartpury, Ashleworth amongst many others. All worth viewing I suggest.

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/downloads/index.php?path=Bigland_Transcripts/

Thomas Stevens 1809 Hartpury

unknown — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:14:29 +0000

I'm researching the Stevens family who were in The Forest of Dean in the 18th and 19th Century. My great great Grandfather was Thomas Stevens, born in 1809 and baptised in Hartpury on 23rd. July 1809.
His father was another Thomas and his mother was Ann.
This is where the trail runs out and any help would be enormously appreciated!!
With thanks,
David Stevens