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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good evening and a very warm welcome to this website and forum. <br />
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I cannot attest to the provenance of the name “Pan Tod” I did see the memorial the summer of 2016 when I visited Ruardean Hill, the birthplace of my Grandmother, Dorothy Jones-Howard. Her father, Edwin Jones, and her brothers were Colliers in that area. I found the memorial to be beautiful, somber, and thankfully free of any vandalism. If someone can kindly explain to me how to insert photos into this forum, I will happily share the pictures I took that day. This is my first post on the forum and I’m so very grateful to have found this website, I’ve spent a nice quiet afternoon reading up on posts that may or may not be about my Grandmother’s family.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed, they are Welsh words. I suppose I should have mentioned that.   It's as good a theory as any at the moment.  I love the Welsh place names.  Garndiffaith, for instance, translates as &quot;Cairn in the Wilderness&quot;.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the wisdom of the fairer side, thanks for throwing your ore into the mix...<br />
Sounds possible to me. <br />
BUT are these Welsh words you use, or what, please ?.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspend disbelief for just a moment.  If Clowerwall can be Clearwell, and there are other examples of place names morphing over time, one possibility would be Pen Tal, pen being head and tal being the brow of a hill.  I know its a bit of a stretch but given the location it makes a certain amount of sense.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you all for your replies.<br />
I'm particularly impressed wrt the detail of the collier's sad deaths. &quot;My&quot; Leslie Jones is not the one listed as I had thought. <br />
Please is anyone willing to share the source, would this be on the Roll Of Honour CD I've heard about (via this forum, of course!). I did see the book in Cinderford Library last month but I don't recall any added detail beyond the lists of names ?.</p>
<p>Re the meaning of the name, thanks yet again &quot;slow&quot;hands for pointing me towards two &quot;new&quot; (for me) reference lists of local mines, but neither gave any extra detail and they even differed whether it was a coal or iron mine. This name doesn't appear on the C19th century references, clearly its a very old mine indeed. Websearching Pantod shows it in several foreign languages including Greek, sadly I know not their meaning. One website which deeply analyses the words of the Old Testament, while attempting to define God's &quot;Spirit&quot;, makes references to classical scholars such as Plato and Socrates: </p>
<p>&quot;Word or Wisdom of God, personified as his agent in creation and world-government, ho pantod unamossou&quot;</p>
<p>I'm afraid my school dropped Latin in my second year in 73, so ??...</p>
<p>Finally, re the vandallism, yes I noticed that while first Googling the subject, very sad indeed. I abhor such criminality, I hear recently of graves &amp; monuments recently being desecrated for socalled &quot;scrap&quot; metal, disgusting.<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15704549">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15704549</a><br />
Unfortunately and as much as I enjoy the modern world and particularly technology I must say my views re upholding law &amp; order have always been somewhat medieval !  Then again sadly it seems the internet, which I love, perhaps in some geography and news related sites inadvertantly assists the efforts of such heartless people, yet another misuse of an excellent resource.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The memorial has been vandalised several times (see <a href="http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Monument-wrecked-metal-thieves/story-11938878-detail/story.html">http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Monument-wrecked-metal-thieves/story-11938878-de...</a> and <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/forester-the-cinderford-uk/mi_8123/is_20091022/vandals-wreck-memorial/ai_n51154754/">http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/forester-the-cinderford-uk/mi_8123/is_20091022/...</a> ). It was OK when I last looked at it but I'm not exactly sure how long ago that was!</p>
<p>-Colin</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following fatalities may be relevant. </p>
<p>Surname/Name/Date/Age/Occupation/Mine/Cause</p>
<p>Henry Edwards;</p>
<p>Edwards Henry 20/09/1851 28 Collier Pluckpenny Fall of roof. </p>
<p>James Roberts;</p>
<p>Roberts James 15/12/1855 29 Collier Pluckpenny Fall of coal on head. </p>
<p>George Parsons;</p>
<p>Parsons George 04/02/1926 63 <br />
  True Blue No2 Killed by the falling of dirt from the roof whilst trying to replace a lintel at a road junction </p>
<p>John Roberts;</p>
<p>Roberts John 21/05/1936 50 <br />
  Northern United Killed by the falling of 3 cwt of dirt from the roof of the face. Death due to internal haemorrhage and fracturing of nearly all his ribs </p>
<p>Leslie Jones;</p>
<p>Jones Leslie 04/05/1951 45 <br />
  Northern United Killed by the falling of a 15 cwt bell of stone which fell from the roof whilst moving the conveyor at the face where he worked.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pantod is also the name of a small mine worked on the summit of Ruardean Hill</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jones Leslie <br />
date 04/05/1951 <br />
age 45 <br />
where  Northern United <br />
accident detail Killed by the falling of a 15 cwt bell of stone which fell from the roof whilst moving <br />
the conveyor at the face where he worked.</p>
<p><br />
Name: Leslie Frederick Jones <br />
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906 <br />
Registration district: Westbury On Severn <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 297  </p>
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Name: Leslie F Jones <br />
Birth Date: abt 1906 <br />
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1951 <br />
Age at Death: 45 <br />
Registration district: Forest of Dean <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 7b <br />
Page: 349</p>
<p>Name: Leslie F Jones <br />
Spouse : Florence M Warren<br />
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933 <br />
Registration district: Westbury On Severn <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume Number: 6a <br />
Page Number: 672</p>
<p>nine children ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've just been re-reading the always-interesting &quot;Documents &amp; Articles&quot; section of this great site (thanks yet again). I found a Newpaper clipping to the above Memorial which I hadn't previously heard of. I've thoroughly Googled the subject and have learnt more about it but have two questions I'd appreciate help with, please:</p>
<p>1. What does the name &quot;Pan Tod&quot; mean ?. Is it Welsh ?. With the Hill apparently being an ancient beacon as per May Hill, I guess that maybe Pan means something like &quot;view&quot;, as in panoramic or to &quot;pan&quot; a camera ??.</p>
<p>2. The Memorial commemorates five Ruardean miners who lost their lives working underground – Henry Edwards, James Roberts, George Parsons, John Roberts and Leslie Jones.  <br />
Although I don't think it's the same man, I have a Leslie Graham Jones in my tree, a collier and my father's uncle, all from the Ruardean area. </p>
<p>Please can anyone shed more light upon the fate of the Leslie Jones commemorated on the Memorial ?.<br />
I've found possible references to some of the five men on the great Coalmining History Resource Centre website, some date from the 1800s. However typical of my luck I've not found a Leslie Jones, perhaps not surprisingly as there are an awful lot of Jones' in the site's 160,000 accident records.</p>
<p>I look forward to any replies, please.</p>
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