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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Janger, this is the family of Matthew Whitson and Hannah Penn as I have it in our family tree. I feel that the fathers name George as shown on the marriage transcript is possibly a mistake.</p>
<p>James Whitson 1846 - 1904<br />
Thomas Whitson 1848 –  <br />
Mary Ann Whitson 1851 –  <br />
Sarah Jane Whitson 1853 – 1900 <br />
Louisa Eliza Whitson 1857 – 1910 (My wife's great grand mother)<br />
Rhoda Whitson 1859 –  <br />
Eliza Ann Whitson 1863 -</p>
<p><br />
So you also asked about James Whitson and Tabitha Herbert. <br />
They were married 6th January 1868,at Holy Trinity Church, Drybrook. Tabitha died in April 1883 and was buried 1st May 1883 in Ruardean graveyard. In the 1881 census it states that she suffered from fits.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin Abbott married <strong>Charlotte</strong> Evans nee White in 1869.<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry<br />
ABBOTT Benjamin WHITE Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James 1869 29x No 2 419<br />
ABBOTT Benjamin EVANS Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James 1869 29x No 2 419</p>
<p>This is the 1871 Census entry:<br />
Name: Charlotte Abbot<br />
Age: 34<br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837<br />
Relation: Head<br />
Gender: Female<br />
Where born: Gloucestershire, England<br />
Civil parish: Wootton Ville<br />
Town: Wootton Ville<br />
County/Island: Gloucestershire<br />
Country: England<br />
Registration district: Gloucester<br />
Sub-registration district: Kingsholm<br />
ED, institution, or vessel: 9<br />
Household schedule number: 101<br />
Piece: 2611<br />
Folio: 49<br />
Page Number: 20<br />
Household Members: <br />
Name Age<br />
Charlotte Abbot 34<br />
Susan Evans 13<br />
George Evans 7<br />
William Evans 4</p>
<p>I think Mary Ann Evans was a Spinster when she married James Whitson but it would appear she had children by a Mr Abbott prior to her marriage. See my earlier posting.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>James Whitson born 1845 married Tabitha Herbert (born 1848) in 1868. She died in 1883.<br />
Did James remarry and/or went on to have any more children?<br />
Two of their children were in the workhouse at Westbury in 1881. Barbara and Rosanna.  I believe Rosanna died there.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hi Brian, Do you have a Tabitha who married James Whitson in your family tree. I am not sure whether Matthew and Hannah are my Jamesd's parents only because on his marriage his father is named as George.  Saying that Tabitha's father is also named George.  Could this be a mistake and Mstthew and Hannah are my James's parents.</p>
</blockquote><p>We would need to check the image / or a BMD copy , it may be an error in transcription.</p>
<p>However<br />
1861 Upper Bilson Cinderford<br />
Mathew Wilson abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire <strong>Engine Driver</strong></p>
<p>and <br />
1871 Upper Bilson<br />
Matthew Wilson 49 <strong>Enginer</strong></p>
<p>Year: 1868 <br />
Month: Jan <br />
Day: 8 <br />
Grooms_Surname: WHITSON <br />
Grooms_Forenames: James <br />
Grooms_Age: 22b <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Collier <br />
Grooms_Residence: Littledean Hill <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Witson <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <strong>Engine Tender </strong><br />
Brides_Surname: HERBERT <br />
Brides_Forenames: Tabitha <br />
Brides_Age: 19 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Brierly <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Herbert <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark <br />
Witness_1: Charles Grindell <br />
Witness_2: Susan Herbert <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: William Barker <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/6 <br />
Page_Number: 224 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian, Do you have a Tabitha who married James Whitson in your family tree. I am not sure whether Matthew and Hannah are my Jamesd's parents only because on his marriage his father is named as George.  Saying that Tabitha's father is also named George.  Could this be a mistake and Mstthew and Hannah are my James's parents.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I've only just picked up on this. I have James Whitson in my family tree. <br />
In the 1851 census he is aged 5, living at, and it looks like Upper Bilson, with his father Matthew Whitson born 1822 in Littledean and mother Hannah nee Penn born 1824 in Ruardean. Siblings are Thomas 3 years old and Mary 2 months old. Not sure about the Abbott connection, I'm still working at it. My only question on James's second marriage to Mary Evans is, If she had married Benjamin Abbott prior to James Whitson, why isn't she Abbott in the second marriage?? Her mother Sarah Evans is shown living with the Whitson family in the 1901 census</p>
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<title>James WITSON (WHITSON) 1845 -1904 Ruardean (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thanks Mike this is going to take some sorting,  The age of James Whitson who married Tabitha ties up with the James Whitson who married Mary, so I am thinking this is the same man. James Whitson (who married Tabitha) father was George. I have  yet to find the wife of George. James is my Great grandfather. George is my g.g grandfather all on the maternal side of the family.  I have gone the direct line of paternal side, that is why I am now going down the maternal side.  Anyway thanks for all the info.</p>
</blockquote><p>one to rule out then ? - father not George but Matthew</p>
<p>Name: Mathew Witson &amp; Hannah Penn<br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1845 <br />
Registration district: Ross <br />
Inferred County: Herefordshire <br />
Volume Number: 26 <br />
Page Number: 305  </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1845 <br />
Month: 7th Sunday after <br />
Day:  <br />
Grooms_Surname: WITSON <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Matthew <br />
Grooms_Age: Of Full Age <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Engineer <br />
Grooms_Residence: The Forest of Deane <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Witson <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier <br />
Brides_Surname: PENN <br />
Brides_Forenames: Hannah <br />
Brides_Age: Of Full Age <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Ruardean <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Penn <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Butcher <br />
Licence_or_Banns: [illegible] <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark <br />
Witness_1: John Penn <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Penn <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Formby <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/10 <br />
Page_Number: 23 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean </p>
<p>Name: James Witson <br />
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1845 <br />
Registration district: Westbury on Severn <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 11 <br />
Page: 465  </p>
<p>WITSON James <br />
 WITSON PENN <br />
1845 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 6 398 </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1845 <br />
Month: 3rd Sunday <br />
Day: 0 <br />
Parents_Surname: WITSON <br />
Child_Forenames: James <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Matthew <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Forest of Deane <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Formby <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes: Date needs investigation <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 133 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean </p>
<p>1851 Upper Bilson Cinderford<br />
Mathew Witson  abt 1823 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Hannah Witson abt 1829 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Witson  abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas Witson  abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Mor A Witson  abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p><br />
1861 Upper Bilson Cinderford<br />
Mathew Wilson abt 1823 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  Engine Driver<br />
 Hannah Wilson  abt 1825 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Wilson abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire <br />
Thomas Wilson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Mary A Wilson  abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Jane S Wilson  abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Louisa Wilson abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Rhoda Wilson abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>1871 Upper Bilson<br />
Matthew Wilson 49 Enginer<br />
Hannah Wilson 47 <br />
Tom Wilson 21 <br />
Jane Wilson 18 <br />
Lucy Wilson 14 <br />
Rhoda Wilson 12 <br />
Eliza Wilson 6 </p>
<p><br />
1871 East Slade Works Ruardean Hill<br />
James Wilson 65 Upper Bilson Labourer<br />
Tabitha Wilson 33 East Dean<br />
Florance M Wilson 2 East Dean</p>
<p><br />
1881<br />
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Sophia Herbert  abt 1823 East Dean ((Coleford)), Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 John Herbert  abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 George Herbert  abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Tabithea Whitson  abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Florance M. Whitson  abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Allace Whitson  abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury on Severn - East Dean,</p>
<p>Name: Tabitha Whitson <br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 <br />
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1883 <br />
Age at Death: 36 <br />
Registration district: Gloucester <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 165</p>
<p>1891<br />
James Whitson abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Mary Whitson   abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Thomas Whitson  abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Maud Whitson abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Rose Whitson  abt 1891 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Sarah Evan  abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Mother-in-law East Dean, Gloucestershire </p>
<p><br />
Year: 1904 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 21 <br />
Surname: WHITSON <br />
Forenames: James <br />
Residence: Ruardean Hill <br />
Age_at_death: 58 years <br />
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13 <br />
Page_No: 168 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook </p>
<p><br />
Name: James Whitson <br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 <br />
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1904 <br />
Age at Death: 58 <br />
Registration district: Westbury on Severn <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 160</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike this is going to take some sorting,  The age of James Whitson who married Tabitha ties up with the James Whitson who married Mary, so I am thinking this is the same man. James Whitson (who married Tabitha) father was George. I have  yet to find the wife of George. James is my Great grandfather. George is my g.g grandfather all on the maternal side of the family.  I have gone the direct line of paternal side, that is why I am now going down the maternal side.  Anyway thanks for all the info.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did James Whitson remarry you ask.</p>
<p>There is a marriage as follows:<br />
Marriages Jun 1890 <br />
Evans  Mary    Westbury S.  6a 502a   <br />
Whitson  James    Westbury S.  6a 502a</p>
<p>And we find them in the 1891 Census:<br />
James Whitson abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Whitson  abt 1861 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife<br />
Thomas Evans abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Maud Evans abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter<br />
Rose Whitson abt 1891 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter<br />
Sarah Evans abt 1831 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Mother-in-law</p>
<p>There is a suggestion that Mary had married before. This is the birth registrations for Maud (do not be confused by the surname Abbott as this will become clearer later):</p>
<p>ABBOTT Maud ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1889  Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 56 8</p>
<p>But no evidence of a marriage can be found. This is Mary Ann with her family in 1881:</p>
<p>John Evans abt 1838 Llangaron, Monmouth, Wales Head<br />
Sarah Evans abt 1832 Longnewton, Wiltshire, England Wife<br />
Mary A. Evans abt 1861 Cricklade, Wiltshire, England Daughter<br />
James Evans abt 1864 Sison, Somerset, England Son<br />
Thomas Evans abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Sarah Evans abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter<br />
Millicent Abbott abt 1873 N K, Gloucestershire, England Visitor</p>
<p>Birth registrations for children:</p>
<p>WHITSON Rosa WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1891 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 61 235<br />
WHITSON James Matthew WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1892 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 63 183<br />
WHITSON Nora WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1894 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 1 385 <br />
WHITSON Alexander WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1895 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 2 463<br />
WHITSON John WHITSON WHITSON EVANS 1897 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 5 135</p>
<p>Next we have the 1901 Census in which there are stepchildren listed:<br />
James Whitson abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head<br />
Mary A Whitson  abt 1861 Cricklade, Wiltshire, England Wife<br />
Frederick Abbott abt 1882 Gloucestershire, England Stepson<br />
Tom Abbott abt 1884 Gloucestershire, England Stepson<br />
Maud Abbott abt 1889 Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter<br />
James Whitson abt 1893 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Nora Whitson abt 1895 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Daughter<br />
Alix Whitson abt 1896 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
John Whitson abt 1898 Ruardean; Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Sarah Evans abt 1831 Longnewton, Wiltshire, England Mother-in-law<br />
George Abbott abt 1886 Gloucestershire, England Stepson</p>
<p>Searching the Gloucestershire BMD Index we find 13 children with the Surname Abbott and mother's maiden name as Evans:</p>
<p>Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry  <br />
ABBOTT Alice Ada ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1875 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 33 380 <br />
ABBOTT Benjamin James ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1877 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 36 150 <br />
ABBOTT Edward ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1870 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 26 270 <br />
ABBOTT Frederick Alfred ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1882 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 43 390 <br />
ABBOTT George Edwin ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1887 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 51 409 <br />
ABBOTT Hubert Josiah ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1868 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 16 289 <br />
ABBOTT John Thomas ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1874 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 32 136 <br />
ABBOTT Male ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1867 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 22 169 <br />
ABBOTT Mary Elizabeth ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1886 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 49 412 <br />
ABBOTT Maud ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1889 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 56 8 <br />
ABBOTT Millicent Mary ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1872 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 29 112 <br />
ABBOTT Oliver Edwin ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1869 Gloucester Gloucester, Kingsholm 12 287 <br />
ABBOTT William Henry ABBOTT ABBOTT EVANS 1866 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 21 97</p>
<p>There are 2 possible marriages:</p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry  <br />
ABBOTT Benjamin EVANS Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St James  1869 29x No 2 419 <br />
ABBOTT William EVANS Mary Gloucester Gloucester Register Office  1866 6 20</p>
<p>Following the second one in the Census we have:<br />
1871 Census<br />
William Abbotts 29 <br />
Mary Abbotts 24<br />
William H Abbotts 5<br />
Hulbert I Abbotts 3<br />
Edwin Abbotts 17</p>
<p>1881 Census:<br />
Barton St Mary, Gloucester<br />
William Abbott abt 1843 Worcestershire, England Head Widowed<br />
William H. Abbott abt 1865 Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Hubert J. Abbott abt 1868 Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
John T. Abbott  abt 1876 Gloucestershire, England Son<br />
Allis A. Abbott  abt 1877   Daughter<br />
Benjamin J. Abbott abt 1878   Son<br />
Elizabeth Evans  abt 1862 Bristol Servant<br />
Edwin Abbott  abt 1857 Worcestershire, England Boarder Brother (Boarder)</p>
<p>This tells us that Mary had died and this is the registration:<br />
Deaths Jun 1878   <br />
ABBOTT  Mary  32  Gloucester  6a 184</p>
<p>Referring back to the list of 13 births we can account for:<br />
William Henry<br />
Hubert Josiah<br />
John Thomas<br />
Alice Ada<br />
Benjamin James<br />
Millicent (with the Evans family in 1881 - see above)</p>
<p>So we check the remainder and find the following deaths:<br />
Deaths Jun 1867 <br />
Abbott  Male  0  Gloucester  6a 163<br />
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Deaths Sep 1869<br />
Abbott  Oliver Edwin  0  Gloucester  6a 153</p>
<p>Deaths Sep 1870<br />
Abbott  Edward  0  Gloucester  6a 234</p>
<p>Of the remainder the following are with James Whitson and family in 1901:<br />
Frederick Alfred born 1882<br />
George Edwin born 1887<br />
Maud born 1889</p>
<p>and this leaves us with Mary Elizabeth born 1886.<br />
In 1891 she is with Robert Allard and family in Gloucester but I have not traced her in subsequent Census returns. However looking at the 1901 Census for William Abbott he has a daughter Lily aged 13 living with him and in the 1911 Census William is with his daughter Lillian Church aged 24. Could this be Mary Elizabeth as we do  not have a birth registration for Lillian Abbott.</p>
<p>Questions that remain:<br />
Who is the father of the Abbott children born subsequent to the death of Mary Abbott nee Evans in 1878.<br />
Is James Whitson who married Mary Evans the James Whitson who married Tabitha Herbert.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,  Thanks for all the information, will have to digest it all.  I do have some of the information you have given me but once again thanks.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florence Matilda Whitson:<br />
Births Mar 1869<br />
WHITSON  Florence Matilda    Westbury S.  6a 241</p>
<p>Marriages Sep 1892    <br />
Mills  Joseph    Westbury S.  6a 445   <br />
WHITSON  Florence Matilda    Westbury S.  6a 445</p>
<p>Burial:<br />
Year: 1937<br />
Month: Dec<br />
Day: 11<br />
Surname: MILLS<br />
Forenames: Florence Matilda<br />
Residence: Brierley<br />
Age_at_death: 68<br />
Officiating_Minister: S E Easter Vicar<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/38<br />
Page_No: 33<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
<p>Alice Whitson:<br />
Births Dec 1877<br />
Whitson  Alice    Westbury S  6a 259</p>
<p>Deaths Sep 1902<br />
Whitson  Alice  24  Westbury S.  6a 193</p>
<p>Census returns tell us that both Alice and her mother Tabitha were subject to fits and this may be the reason for early death.</p>
<p>Barbara Whitson:<br />
Births Dec 1874<br />
Whitson  Barbara    Westbury S.  6a 254</p>
<p>Marriages  <br />
Bennett  George John  Westbury S.  6a 515  <br />
Whitson  Barbara    Westbury S.  6a 515</p>
<p>Burial:<br />
Year: 1944<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 8<br />
Surname: BENNETT<br />
Forenames: Barbara<br />
Residence: High Beech<br />
Age_at_death: 70 yrs<br />
Officiating_Minister: R C Stebbing Rector<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/33<br />
Page_No: 30<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean</p>
<p>Rosanna Whitson:<br />
Births Mar 1872<br />
Whitson  Rosanna    Westbury S.  6a 251   </p>
<p>Deaths Sep 1881<br />
Whitson  Rosanna  9  Westbury S.  6a 130</p>
<p>Year: 1881<br />
Month: Jul<br />
Day: 20<br />
Surname: WHITSON<br />
Forenames: Rosanna<br />
Residence: Bilson<br />
Age_at_death: 9<br />
Officiating_Minister: J J Lewin Curate<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: [not sta<br />
Memoranda: Name is annotated NY<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/12<br />
Page_No: 150<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
<p>Sophia Whitson:<br />
Births Mar 1871<br />
Whitson  Sophia    Westbury S.  6a 245   </p>
<p>Deaths Mar 1871<br />
Whitson  Sophia  0  Westbury S.  6a 160</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloucestershire BMD Index give the following births:<br />
WHITSON Florence Matilda WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1869 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 30 103<br />
WHITSON Sophia WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1871 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 32 319<br />
WHITSON Rosanna WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1872 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 33 465<br />
WHITSON Barbara WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1874 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 38 55<br />
WHITSON Alice WHITSON WHITSON HERBERT 1877 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 42 500</p>
<p>There does not appear to be a birth registration for a George Whitson c1869 however there is a birth registration for a George Herbert to a single mother in 1866</p>
<p>HERBERT George   HERBERT   1866 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 26 485</p>
<p>There is a George Herbert aged 3 living with Tabitha's parents in 1871 and they are next door to James and Tabitha WITSON (transcribed as Wilson) and daughter Florence M.</p>
<p>1881 Census:<br />
George Herbert abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England  Head<br />
Sophia Herbert abt 1823 East Dean ((Coleford)), Gloucestershire, England  Wife<br />
John Herbert abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England  Son<br />
George Herbert abt 1868 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson<br />
Tabithea Whitson abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter<br />
Florance M. Whitson abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter<br />
Allace Whitson abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter</p>
<p>James is not at home. There is a James Whitson, unmarried,  aged 39 from Forest of Dean lodging at Llanelly</p>
<p>George is married at the time of the 1891 Census:<br />
George Herbert abt 1868   Head East Dean, Gloucestershire<br />
Catherine Herbert abt 1868   Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire<br />
Rosann Herbert abt 1890   DaughterEast Dean, Gloucestershire<br />
John Herbert abt 1890   Son East Dean, Gloucestershire<br />
Alice Herbert abt 1878   Sister East Dean, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>Alice should be listed as Whitson.</p>
<p>LEYSHON Rosanna   LEYSHON   1889 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 59 94</p>
<p>HERBERT John Charles HERBERT HERBERT LEYSHON 1890 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 60 412</p>
<p>This would appear to the marriage.<br />
Marriages Dec 1889<br />
Herbert  Arthur George    Westbury S.  6a 470   <br />
LYSHON  Catherine    Westbury S.  6a 470</p>
<p>1901 Census:<br />
George Herbert Jun. abt 1868 Brierly, Gloucestershire, England Head<br />
Catherine Herbert   abt 1868 Staffordshire, England Wife<br />
George Herbert abt 1821 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Grandfather<br />
Alfred Lyshon abt 1887 Hawkwell Row, Staffordshire, England Son<br />
Rose Herbert abt 1890 Hawkwell; Row, Staffordshire, England Daughter<br />
John Herbert abt 1891 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Son<br />
George Herbert abt 1892 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Son<br />
Lily Herbert abt 1894 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Daughter<br />
Florrie Herbert abt 1898 Brierly, Staffordshire, England Daughter</p>
<p>The Census gives place of birth as Brierley, Staffordshire. It should read Brierley, Gloucestershire.</p>
<p>Possible birth registration for Alfred:<br />
LICHEN Alfred John   LICHEN   1886 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 55 28</p>
<p>1911 Census:<br />
Brierley,Glos<br />
George Herbert 43 Head<br />
Caroline Herbert 43 Wife<br />
John Herbert 20 Son<br />
George Herbert 19 Son<br />
Florence Herbert 13 Daughter<br />
Emily Herbert 8 Daughter<br />
Gladys Herbert 3 Daughter<br />
Benjamin Leyshon 25 Boarder</p>
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Year: 1920<br />
Month: Jun<br />
Day: 15<br />
Surname: HERBERT<br />
Forenames: Arthur George<br />
Residence: Brierly<br />
Age_at_death: 53 years<br />
Officiating_Minister: Edward Parnell Rector<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/14<br />
Page_No: 65<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean</p>
<p>Year: 1953<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 26<br />
Surname: HERBERT<br />
Forenames: Caroline<br />
Residence: Brierley<br />
Age_at_death: 83 yrs<br />
Officiating_Minister: R C Stebbing Rector<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/33<br />
Page_No: 53<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean</p>
<p>More to follow<br />
Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I could have done that, my minds not working well due to tiredness thro illness... I just wanted to help out. However your approach wouldn't have been successful as per the original query it was believed that James fathered more children after Tab had passed away...</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You're very welcome. Yes a few spelling possibles there to make April Fools of us.<br />
The beauty of the Advanced Search feature is I could search and quickly view all the Baptisms for surnames starting &quot;Whi&quot; and then &quot;Wit&quot;, tried both with father's forenames &quot;Jam&quot; then &quot;Jas&quot;; ditto the GlosBMD site.</p>
</blockquote><p>or father name starting &quot;Ja&quot; and mother name starting &quot;Tab&quot; ........</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're very welcome. Yes a few spelling possibles there to make April Fools of us.<br />
The beauty of the Advanced Search feature is I could search and quickly view all the Baptisms for surnames starting &quot;Whi&quot; and then &quot;Wit&quot;, tried both with father's forenames &quot;Jam&quot; then &quot;Jas&quot;; ditto the GlosBMD site.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff, Did not realise they had a son George, but thought they had just four daughters.  As Tabitha died quite young, I did wonder if James re-married. As James is quite a common name it is hard to link him later in his life.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Janet,</p>
<p>As you know:</p>
<p>Record ID 4482 <br />
Entry Number 447 <br />
Year 1868 <br />
Month Jan <br />
Day 8 <br />
Grooms Surname WHITSON <br />
Grooms Forenames James <br />
Grooms Age 22b <br />
Groom Condition Bachelor <br />
Grooms Occupation Collier <br />
Grooms Residence Littledean Hill <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname Witson <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames George <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation Engine Tender <br />
Brides Surname HERBERT <br />
Brides Forenames Tabitha <br />
Brides Age 19 <br />
Brides Condition Spinster <br />
Brides Occupation  <br />
Brides Residence Brierly <br />
Brides Fathers Surname Herbert <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames George <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation Collier <br />
Licence or Banns Banns <br />
Date of Banns  <br />
Signature or Mark Both Mark <br />
Witness 1 Charles Grindell <br />
Witness 2 Susan Herbert <br />
Other Witnesses  <br />
Officiating Minister William Barker <br />
Event Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6 <br />
Page Number 224 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p>using this site's advanced search give the following possible Baptisms;</p>
<p>Record ID 14700 <br />
Entry Number 554 <br />
Year 1869 <br />
Month Apr <br />
Day 25 <br />
Parents Surname WHITSON <br />
Child Forenames George <br />
Fathers Forenames James <br />
Mothers Forenames Tabitha <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Brierley <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P109 IN 1/3 <br />
Page Number 70 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p>Record ID 14701 <br />
Entry Number 555 <br />
Year 1869 <br />
Month Apr <br />
Day 25 <br />
Parents Surname WHITSON <br />
Child Forenames Florence Matilda <br />
Fathers Forenames James <br />
Mothers Forenames Tabitha <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Brierley <br />
Occupation Collier <br />
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference P109 IN 1/3 <br />
Page Number 70 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p><br />
Record ID 15117 <br />
Entry Number 171 <br />
Year 1873 <br />
Month Jun <br />
Day 1 <br />
Parents Surname WHITESTONE <br />
Child Forenames Rosanna <br />
Fathers Forenames James <br />
Mothers Forenames Tabitha <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Little Dean Hill <br />
Occupation Coal Miner <br />
Officiating Minister Wm Barker Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference PFC109 IN 1/4 <br />
Page Number 22 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p>Record ID 15286 <br />
Entry Number 340 <br />
Year 1875 <br />
Month Jan <br />
Day 17 <br />
Parents Surname WHITESTONE <br />
Child Forenames Barbara <br />
Fathers Forenames James <br />
Mothers Forenames Tabitha <br />
Mothers Surname  <br />
Residence Brierley <br />
Occupation Engine-Man <br />
Officiating Minister Wm Barker Vicar <br />
Event Baptism <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference PFC109 IN 1/4 <br />
Page Number 43 <br />
Parish Chapel Drybrook </p>
<p><br />
From GlosBMD site (includes Register Office Marriages unlike this FoD site), I wonder if this is your James too ?:</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
WHITSON James EVANS Mary Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office   1890 9 64 <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p><br />
???</p>
<p>NB: I have been searching other spelling variations including Jas but with only this additional hit so far from GlosBMD: </p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
WITSON James HERBERT Tabitha Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity  1868 1 447 </p>
<p><br />
Sorry I cannot search 1891 Census etc.</p>
<p>Hope this helps &amp; rewards your further searching.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Whitson born 1845 married Tabitha Herbert (born 1848) in 1868. She died in 1883.<br />
Did James remarry and/or went on to have any more children?<br />
Two of their children were in the workhouse at Westbury in 1881. Barbara and Rosanna.  I believe Rosanna died there.</p>
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