Forest of Dean FHT Forum - WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER ( archived message)

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER ( archived message) (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:12:50 +0000

I have compiled the following which are the 'holes' left in my attempts to find Forester ancestors. If anyone can help then I shall be very grateful. My sincerest thanks to those who have already sent me info. I have given Location - Names and dates and family members where possible.

MATHERN Mons. William GUNTER = ELIZABETH abt 1827
James. December 9 - 1828. Joseph September 19 - 1830 Died March 17 - 1861.
George. October 5 - 1835
Charles June 25 - 1837
John April 11 - 1840

LITTLE DEAN Glos. James WILLIAMS = HARRIETT abt 1825
Esther bn. March 29 - 1839

COMMENTS:- She married Joseph GUNTER in 1857

Lizzie bn. in 1858

COMMENTS:- Joseph died March 1861 & was buried at Tidenham. Esther listed as a Pensioners Widow on her subsequent marriage to my GGG G/Father William Litten EDWARDS as follows.

WOOLASTON. William Litten EDWARDS = Esther Gunter Sept. 16 1861.
Walter Jan 6 - 1862 all born at Woolaston
George Jan 17 - 1864
William Apr 4 - 1866
Alice May 5 - 1868
James Aug 8 - 1870
Lucy Dec 17 - 1871

COMMENTS:- The 1871 Census shows the family living at CHOP HOUSE Woolaston where William is listed as a pauper. Does anyone know where this was?

The 1881 census shows them living at a place called 'CLAP Y YATTS' Tidenham. Which I believe is a row of three houses near Stroat. Am I right?

Esther must have died by then as William is shown as a Widower. Can anyone add to these details?

Jim Scott
Yeovil UK
Monday August 18 2003

William EDWARDS 1831 Bisley - . Woolaston (reply)

Jim Scott — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:11:43 +0000

Slowhands...... what can I say other than a massive big THANK YOU for all the trouble you have taken ...... you must have been eating Censuses for breakfast dinner and tea...!

All the information you have posted is brilliamt and other than a couple of non important points, serves to complete that line of research. So I am happy to now say that:

THE ENQUIRY IS NOW CLOSED and THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Regards

Jim.

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

Jim Scott — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:02:35 +0000

Hello Biddy.

That was very kind of you and the information you sent is just what was required.
I am indebted to all who have helped on this issue and am pleased to be able to say:--

THE ENQUIRY IS NOW CLOSED

Regards

Jim

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

Jim Scott — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:55:03 +0000

Hi Mike.

Thanks very much indeed for that information which has at last allowed me to complet that line of investigation.
Anything I can do for you please let me know.
Regards.......... Jim

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

shepway — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:31:03 +0000

James WILLIAMS married Harriet NAYLOR in September Quarter 1837
Gloucester Registration District Vol 11 Page 285

This is daughter Esther (Hester) in 1851 :
Little dean Parish The whole of the Parish of Little dean including Dean Hall Temple Lane, Broad Street, Silver Street, Church Street Ruffett Redding Lane, Lodge hill and Calamore

1959 0354 043 Broad Street NAYLOR William HD M 85 Chelsea Pensioner & Annu+ YKS Bradford
1959 0354 043 Broad Street NAYLOR Mary WI M 76 - [NTT] Nottingham
1959 0354 043 Broad Street WILLIAMS Hester GD U 12 Assistant GLS Littledean
1959 0354 043 Broad Street SAUNDERS Harriet GD U 13 Assistant GLS Littledean

Harriet NAYLOR was baptised at Littledean Parish Church on 8 June 1818. Parents: William and Mary NAYLOR

William NAYLOR was buried at Littledean on 29 November 1851 aged 85 and Mary was buried at Littledean on 21 January 1854 aged 77

Mike

Joseph GUNTER 1828 Tidenham ? (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:27:45 +0000

1841HO107/369/4
Tidenham

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Folio: 26

William Gunter abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Gunter abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
Charles Gunter abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
Eliza Gunter abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
George Gunter abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
James Gunter abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
John Gunter abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire
Joseph Gunter abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham Gloucestershire

1851
Joseph Gunter abt 1833 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Alvington Gloucestershire

Esther WILLIAMS 1835 Alvington (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:23:17 +0000

This family looks a better bet

1841 HO107/369/6
Woolaston

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Lydney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Folio: 24

George Williams abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire Papermaker
Margaret Williams abt 1801 Wollastone Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
Esther Williams abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
George Williams abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire
James Williams abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone Gloucestershire

1851
Margaret Williams abt 1811 Michel Trey, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Woolaston Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1837 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Monmouthshire
Esther Williams abt 1833 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Monmouthshire
George Williams abt 1841 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire
James Williams abt 1835 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire

compared to

1841 HO107/364/9
Littledean Woodside

Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Folio: 11

James William abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Hariet William abt 1818 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Emily William abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Esther William abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

William EDWARDS 1831 Bisley - . Woolaston (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:00:11 +0000

1841 HO107/366/2
Little Barrington
Registration district: Northleach
Sub-registration district: Bibury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Folio: 3

William Edwards abt 1786 Little Barrington Gloucestershire Farmer
Emma Edwards abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Allice Edwards abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Betsy Edwards abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Emma Edwards abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
George Edwards abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Lucy Edwards abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Richard Edwards abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
Susan Edwards abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire
William Edwards abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Little Barrington Gloucestershire

1851
William Edwards abt 1784 Highworth, Wiltshire, England Head Bisley Gloucestershire
Emma Edwards abt 1803 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bisley Gloucestershire
Aljurnun G Edwards abt 1835 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Son Bisley Gloucestershire
Betsy Edwards abt 1836 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bisley Gloucestershire
Christopher W Edwards abt 1843 Little Barrington, Gloucestershire, England Son Bisley Gloucestershire
Emma Mary Edwards abt 1830 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bisley Gloucestershire
Lucy Edwards abt 1838 Little Barrington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Bisley Gloucestershire
Richard Edwards abt 1826 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Son Bisley Gloucestershire
William Litten Edwards abt 1831 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Son Bisley Gloucestershire

1861
Walter Ball abt 1791 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Woollaston Gloucestershire
Esther Gunter abt 1835 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Niece Woollaston Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1858 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England None Woollaston Gloucestershire
Mary Williams abt 1795 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Sister Woollaston Gloucestershire

1871
William L Edwards abt 1831 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Head Woolaston Gloucestershire
Esther Edwards abt 1836 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolaston Gloucestershire
Alice Edwards abt 1869 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire
George Edwards abt 1864 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire
James Edwards abt 1870 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire
Lizzie Edwards abt 1858 (Lucy ?) Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire
Walter Edwards abt 1863 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire
William Edwards abt 1866 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire

1881
William L. Edwards abt 1831 Beesley, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham Gloucestershire
Alice Edwards abt 1868 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham Gloucestershire
George Edwards abt 1864 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham Gloucestershire
James Edwards abt 1871 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham Gloucestershire
Lucy Edwards abt 1872 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham Gloucestershire
Walter Edwards abt 1863 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham Gloucestershire
William Edwards abt 1866 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham Gloucestershire

1891
Willam Edwards abt 1831 Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Head Woolaston Gloucestershire
James Edwards abt 1871 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire

1901
William Edwards abt 1829 Beesly, Oxfordshire, England Head Woolastone Gloucestershire
James Edwards abt 1872 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolastone Gloucestershire

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

biddy — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:55:14 +0000

Jim

Have just read through this thread and, in case you haven't had it yet confirmed, yes Clap-y-ates (sometimes spelt Clappyatts etc) is in Stroat. I think today it's one house.

Also note that in the registers William Litten is recorded as labourer for baptisms of their children - sounds better than pauper!

An Esther Edwardes is in the Woolaston burial register August 3 1876 aged 41. Was she definitely born or just baptised in 1839?

I guess William Edwards who was buried March 5 1911 aged 84 from Woolaston Grange was her husband?

Hope this helps.

Biddy

Maria GUNTER( nee HOLDER )1838 (?) Penalt Mon (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:05:56 +0000

Name: Maria Holder
Name: William Gunter
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 45

and brother John recorded in 1851 as Houlder
1851
John Houlden abt 1822 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
Jane Houlden abt 1822 Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
George Houlden abt 1849 Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire

Welcome (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:02:01 +0000

Welcome Gordon !

Maria GUNTER 1838 (?) Penalt Mon (reply)

Gordon Williams — Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:01:46 +0000

Many thanks slowhands, I've just come to the forum/message board and hope I can be of some help to someone.

Gordon.

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

r7yXYFDo — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:39:01 +0000

Hi Gordon. Thanks for the message ref. Maria GUNTER, I am afraid I have no knowledge of this lady whatsoever, neither have I come across her in my searches.... However, I will keep the weather eye open and will let you know if I do.
Cheers...........Jim

Maria GUNTER 1838 Penalt Mon (wife of William GUNTER 1826) (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:53:14 +0000

1841 HO107/747/17
Penalt

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Trelleck
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Folio: 22

John Gunter abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire
Hanah Gunter abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire
Ann Gunter abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire
James Gunter abt 1831 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire
Jessey Gunter abt 1836 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire
William Gunter abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Penalth Monmouthshire

1851
William Gunter abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
Ann Gunter abt 1824 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
James Gunter abt 1829 Monmouthshire, Wales Bound Boy Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
Jessie Gunter abt 1834 Penalt Sister Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire

1861
John Gunter abt 1791 Pennlt, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire

James Gunter abt 1831 Pennlt, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
William Gunter abt 1829 Pennlt, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
Maria Gunter abt 1837 Pennlt, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire
John Gunter abt 1859 Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales Grand or Great Nephew Mitchel Troy Monmouthshire

1871
William Gunter abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mitchel Troy West Monmouthshire
Maria Gunter abt 1834 Penallt, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Mitchel Troy West Monmouthshire
John Gunter abt 1859 Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mitchel Troy West Monmouthshire

1881 Square Farm, Mitchel Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales
William Gunter abt 1822 Monmouth, Wales Head
Maria Gunter abt 1836 Penalt, Monmouth, Wales Wife
John Gunter abt 1859 Mitchel Troy, Monmouth, Wales Son
John Holder abt 1821 Penalt, Monmouth, Wales Boarder (Lodger)

1891
Perkins, Mary A abt 1818 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Tregare Monmouthshire Widow
Holder, John abt 1821 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Brother Tregare Monmouthshire
Gunter, Maria abt 1839 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister Tregare Monmouthshire Widow

1901 West Rd
John Holder abt 1822 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Tregare Monmouthshire
Maria Gunter abt 1839 Penalt, Monmouthshire, Wales Sister Tregare Monmouthshire Widow

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER (reply)

Gordon Williams — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:21:44 +0000

Hello Jim,

My great-great uncle was Henry Williams (1824-1909), woodward, buried at Hewelsfield. In his will (dated 1909) he bequeaths to Mrs Maria Gunter, late of the Square Farm, Micheltroy, but now of Tregare, widow, the sum of ten pounds.
Do you have any information on Maria Gunter?

Gordon Williams

Clapp y yates ? (reply)

Slowhand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s — Thu, 12 May 2005 03:32:03 +0000

Clap y ates on todays large scale OS map - just to add to confusion !

Clapp y yates ? (reply)

Slowhand\\\\\\\'s — Thu, 12 May 2005 03:26:26 +0000

Clapgates

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ coords 358070,198620

Chep House Wollaston (reply)

Slowhand\\\'s — Thu, 12 May 2005 02:22:01 +0000

Chep House ?

The Alms houses and Rectory in Wollaston were near St Andrews Church

there was a Sheep House near what is today the A48. Lydney Road

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ coords 358330,199380 and enlarge

WILLIAMS -- EDWARDS --- GUNTER

admin — Thu, 05 May 2005 12:22:40 +0000

Jim Scott

THanks to ALL who have helped me on this matter and I'm happy to say the MATTER IS NOW COMPLETED.