Forest of Dean FHT Forum

Reverend Jackman Morse - clerk (reply)

cmfenton — Sat, 27 Jun 2026 15:22:33 +0000

The traditional term for Anglican ministers well into the 20th century was "Clerk in Holy Orders".

My late father-in-law used it on his passport when occupations were required and it avoided the potential of awkward questions for him on some of his travels.

Reverend Jackman Morse (reply)

grahamdavison — Sat, 27 Jun 2026 08:11:09 +0000

Interestingly there is a Rev Jackman who is Vicar of Newent in the 1670s, probably where he got his name from, I also note the Jackman is described as a Clerk at his marriage, asnd that his father Abraham is also a clerk.

DNA (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 27 Jun 2026 07:57:23 +0000

DNA will match you to similar samples ( taken from living people, and occasionally historic samples)

so you are on safe ground with living relatives

However historic trees still suffer the same potential (well intended) inaccuracies Im afraid

Reverend Jackman Morse

mollyrigby — Fri, 26 Jun 2026 19:34:25 +0000

Ten years ago, I posted that I was descended from John Morse (1738 - 1797), who married Margaret Jones. There is still a great deal of confusion on Ancestry, and at the time I said that a few of them list John Morse as Rev. John Morse, son of Jackman, but I dismissed this as an error.

Since then, I have had my DNA tested on Ancestry, and lo and behold, it turns out that Jackman Morse is my 5th-great-grandfather, with four DNA matches. John Morse, married to Margaret Jones, is my fourth great-grandparent - from then on, the family tree makes sense. However, I cannot believe that amongst my coal miners and coal owners in the Forest there is an eminent vicar. The sticking point seems to be John Morse, 1738 - 1739, as in various trees on Ancestry, the children are the same as my John Morse, and in some, completely different. I really don't know how to prove this, but surely the DNA can't be wrong, or can it?

Annie KILBY 1911 - 1990 (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 08:42:42 +0000

Deaths 1990 (>99%)
KILBY ANNIE 23NO1911 WORCESTER 29 723

( still looking in 1921 census)

Gertrude Ada Bradley married Edward John Kilby

wwwatkins — Fri, 29 May 2026 23:21:59 +0000

I am trying to locate Edward's family on the 1921 UK Census.

Edward died on the Somme in 1917 leaving his wife Gertrude Ada Bradley (1890-1974) and four (4) children:
Edward William Kilby (1910-1990)
Annie Kilby (1911-?)
Ronald Ivor Kilby (1914-1966)
Iris May Kilby (1916-1986)

Gertrude Ada Kilby (nee Bradley) married William Simmons in the 4th quarter of 1921 at Pontypridd district.

Does anyone know where Gertrude and the children were at the time of the 1921 census?

Thanks
Ian Watkins
watkinsi@ozonline.com.au

1926 general strike and the Forest mines - 100 years on (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 29 May 2026 16:19:16 +0000

Sobering thought the General Strike and lock out is now 100 years ago - May 1926

Joseph MERRY - Prior thread (reply)

merry — Tue, 19 May 2026 20:52:36 +0000

These are my Merry’s
My grandad Clifford 1907
My great grandparents John 1870 and Ellen.
My great great grandparents John and Harriet
My great great great grandparents Joseph and Charlotte.

Avondale - house on Plump Hill nr the Nags Head Inn (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 19 May 2026 11:25:43 +0000

So revisiting this ( many years on) with the benefit of more Census data

There is a property named Avondale next door to the Nags Head Inn on Plump Hill/Mitcheldean in the 1939 data set. https://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/pubs/nags-head-plump-hill-nr-mitcheldean/

in 1901 Joseph MERRY lives at The Firs on Plump Hill, not too far away from the Nags Head Inn ( no Avondale listed, to be fair few properties are named)

in 1911 Frank MERRY is living at the Firs

today that address is
THE FIRS
PLUMP HILL
MITCHELDEAN
GLOUCESTERSHIRE
UNITED KINGDOM
GL17 0ET

Avondale public house (reply)

merry — Mon, 18 May 2026 13:16:36 +0000

Hi John
My name is Julie Merry.
My great grandad was John Merry one of the three brothers who came up to Castleford from
Mitcheldean.
My mum and dad were Betty and Cliff Merry and my grandad was Cliff Merry ( Johns son).

Richard Tom ROBERTS 1894 - 1941 Scowles (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 May 2026 09:51:25 +0000

Deaths Dec 1941 (>99%)
Roberts Thomas R 48 Evesham 6c 303

1939 School Rd Badsey
Thomas R Roberts 02 Mar 1893 Male Incapacitated Married
Millicent Roberts 20 Dec 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Joyce A Burford (Roberts) 29 Oct 1930 Female At School Single

Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Roberts Joyce A Keyte Evesham 6c 219

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Roberts Iris M Keyte Evesham 6c 387

1921 Badsey
Roberts Thomas 1893
Roberts Millicent 1894
Roberts Iris 1920
Trayte Alfred 1895 ( probably Keyte)

Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
KEYTE Millicent Roberts Evesham 6c 257
Roberts Thomas R Keyte Evesham 6c 257

1911 Scowles
John Robert Head Married Male 51 1860 Stone dresser Gloucestershire West Dean
Mary Ada Robert Head Married Female 46 1865 - Gloucestershire Coleford
Sidney George Robert Son Single Male 20 1891 Stone dresser Gloucestershire Coleford
Walter Robert Son Single Male 19 1892 Pit sinker Gloucestershire Coleford
Thomas Robert Son Single Male 17 1894 Tin worker at rolls Gloucestershire Coleford
Mary Ada Robert Daughter Single Female 14 1897 - Gloucestershire Coleford
Florrie George Robert Daughter - Female 10 1901 School Gloucestershire Coleford
Lenard George Robert Son - Male 8 1903 School Gloucestershire Coleford
Ernest Ivor Robert Son - Male 5 1906 School Gloucestershire Coleford

1901 Scowles
John Roberts Head Married Male 41 1860 Coal hewer Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ada Roberts Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
William John Roberts Son Single Male 16 1885 Shoemaker Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Fredrick Arthur Roberts Son Single Male 14 1887 Coal hewer Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Henry Roberts Son Single Male 12 1889 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Sidney Charles Roberts Son Single Male 10 1891 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Walter Benjamin Roberts Son Single Male 8 1893 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Richard Thomas Roberts Son Single Male 7 1894 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ada Roberts Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Florence Lillie Roberts Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1894
Month: Aug
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: Richard Tom
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ada
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Scowles
Occupation: Quarryman
Officiating_Minister: A W Cornwall
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1891 Scowles Rd
John Roberts Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal miner Gloucestershire, England
Ada Roberts Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
William Roberts Son - Male 6 1885 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Roberts Son - Male 4 1887 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Herbert Roberts Son - Male 2 1889 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Sydney Roberts Son - Male 0 1891 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Roberts John Monmouth 11a 79
Roberts Mary Ada Monmouth 11a 79

This appears to be father John
1881 Gortsy Knoll (south of Coleford, East of Scowles)
Daniel Roberts Head Married Male 48 1833 (stone) quarry man West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife Married Female 47 1834 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son Single Male 21 1860 (stone) quarryman West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Adah Roberts Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Servant out of place West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Roberts Son Single Male 15 1866 Prentice (stone) quarryman West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Noah Roberts Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1871 Coalway Lane End
Daniel Roberts Head - Male 38 1833 Stone cutter Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife - Female 37 1834 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son - Male 11 1860 Stone cutter West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emma Roberts Daughter - Female 8 1863 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ada Roberts Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Roberts Son - Male 5 1866 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Coalway Lane End
Daniel Roberts Head Married Male 28 1833 Stone quarryman Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son - Male 1 1860 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary Davis Lodger Widow Female 77 1784 - Gloucestershire, England

Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
DAVIS Selina Monmouth 11a 37
ROBERTS Daniel Monmouth 11a 37

WW1 soldiers (reply)

Tom tom 63 — Mon, 11 May 2026 22:15:39 +0000

My grandfather was Richard thomas Roberts born 1893/4 known as "Tom"

I know he was born and lived in the scowles when he was child.

Tom married my grandmother "Millicent Gould" from Cow Honeybourne worcestershire

Lived in Badsey nr evesham worcestershire

Passed away aged 48/49yrs old in 1941 and buried in Badsey cemetery with his wife "millicent" aged 62 in 1953
They had two daughters

Iris May Roberts married Egbert Colley. No children

Joyce Aldyth Roberts married Eric Henry Burford. Had 3 children

Martin Burford
Diane Burford
Michael Burford

Unfortunately, even though i have names from ancestery i know nothing really about the Roberts family.

I would be grateful if anyone has any past or present information about the
Roberts family.

Elsie Anne ELLAWAY1888 - 1975 Bream (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 May 2026 09:35:51 +0000

1891 Lydney Lane Bream
John Ellaway Head Married Male 51 1840 Blacksmith Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Ellaway Wife Married Female 46 1845 - Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England
Fred Ellaway Son Single Male 16 1875 Iron miner Bream, Gloucestershire, England
William Hoskins Ellaway Son - Male 14 1877 Iron miner Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Julia Ellaway Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Fanny Ellaway Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Elsie Ellaway Granddaughter - Female 2 1889 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
John Preest Boarder Single Male 51 1840 Haulier Bream, Gloucestershire, England

1901 Mill Hill Bream
John Elloway Head Married Male 56 1845 Blacksmith Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Elloway Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Elloway Son Single Male 26 1875 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
William H Elloway Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Alma Elloway Daughter Single Female 28 1873 Domestic Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Matilda Elloway Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Harriett James Mother-in-law Widow Female 83 1818 - Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England
Elsie Elloway Grand daughter - Female 12 1889 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England

Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
WILLIAMS ELSIE ANNE 30MR1888 ROSS 29 672

Alfred James WILLIAMS 1919- 1973 Bream and Ross-on-Wye (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 May 2026 09:29:24 +0000

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Ellaway Elsie A Williams Newport M. 11a 500
Williams Frederick J Ellaway Newport M. 11a 500

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Williams Alfred J Ellaway Monmouth 11a 32

1921Nr Church, Bream, Newland, Gloucestershire
Head Frederick James Williams Circa 1892
Wife Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1889
Son Arthur Edward Williams Circa 1909
Son John William Williams Circa 1913
Daughter Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1916
Son Alfred James Williams Circa 1920

1939 Rosemene, Lower Meone, Brockweir
Frederick J Williams 06 Jun 1892 Male General Labourer Married
Elsie A Williams (Davies) 15 Oct ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Wyndham F Williams 09 Mar 1921 Male Van Driver Of Grocery And General Store Single
The record for this person is officially closed. Bernard ?
The record for this person is officially closed. Edith ?

Deaths Mar 1974 (>99%)
Williams Alfred James 25SE1919 Ross 9a 247

Thomas Goode of Dymock (reply)

BonMichel — Thu, 30 Apr 2026 09:25:14 +0000

Did you make any more progress on the Goods of Thornbury? I am looking into the surname Good and Goode in England in the 16th and 17th centuries which is proving a much bigger task than I anticipated. I am currently researching Herefordshire, Gloucestershire and Worcestershire. I might have some helpful information for you and you might have some information which I haven't found yet. Let me know if you would like to follow this up.

Alfred James Williams d1973 Ross-on-Wye (reply)

timw — Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:21:44 +0000

Hi. I'm his son Tim. Happy for you to contact me 07799 035 939

Alfred James Williams d1973 Ross-on-Wye (reply)

timw — Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:17:56 +0000

Hi. I'm his son Tim. Please contact me 07799 035 939

Alfred James Williams d1973 Ross-on-Wye (reply)

timw — Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:16:57 +0000

Hi. I'm his son Tim. Happy for you to contact 07799 035939

2026 (reply)

MikeJohns — Thu, 23 Apr 2026 09:42:13 +0000

Glad to see you’re still active here.

James RUCK c1823 - Birth (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:40:00 +0000

1841 LittleDean Hill
William Ruck Male 50 1791 -
Mary Ruck Female 45 1796 Gloucestershire, England
John Ruck Male 21 1820 Gloucestershire, England
Fanny Ruck Female 12 1829 Gloucestershire, England
Sophia Ruck Female 9 1832 Gloucestershire, England
Emma Ruck Female 6 1835 Gloucestershire, England
Eleanor Ruck Female 3 1838 Gloucestershire, England
Caroline Ruck Female 0 1841 Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1844
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: RUCK
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Township of East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Ruck
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: NIBLETT
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Township of East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Niblett
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Cox
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Cox
Other_Witnesses: William Hale
Officiating_Minister: William Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

1851 Watery Lane End, Westbury on Severn
John Rock Head Married Male 28 1823 Coal miner East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Rock Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Timothy Rock Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Rock Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
James Rock Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Rock Son - Male 2 1849 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Maria Rock Daughter - Female 0 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Huntly East dean
John Ruck Head Married Male 38 1823 Coal... Gloucestershire, England
Ann Ruck Wife - Female 41 1820 - Gloucestershire, England
Jane Ruck Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 - Gloucestershire, England
James Ruck Son - Male 15 1846 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Ruck Son - Male 12 1849 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Miah Ruck Daughter - Female 10 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Ruck Son - Male 7 1854 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
George Ruck Son - Male 5 1856 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Ruck Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England