(married 6 years, no children born alive, none died)

George Edward JONES, 34, Engine Fitter born Upper Lydbrook, Glos
Harriet Louisa JONES - 33 - born Brierley, Glos

Record_ID: 244255
Entry_Number: 108
Year: 1819
Month: Jun
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: HARDWICK
Child_Forenames: Charlotte
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Sandford
Occupation: Farmer
Officiating_Minister: G.H.L. Gretton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughr of
Notes:
Register_Reference: AD99/4
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Upton Bishop
Soundex: H632

Possible parents:
Record_ID: 66721
Entry_Number: 116
Year: 1806
Month: Jun
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: HARDWICK
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Upton Bishop [Herefordshire]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PERKINS
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Sophia Nelmes
Witness_2: John Nelmes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Whatley rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AR90/5
Page_Number: 28
Parish_Chapel: Aston Ingham
Soundex_Groom: H632
Soundex_Bride: P625

Bride is a widow - using Advanced Search to find a Marriage of "groom Perkins" to "bride Mary" suggests this maybe her first marriage, a few to consider but the date and locaity fits well, plus the Nelmes name is a probable link (could Sophia & John be her parents or siblings ?):

Record_ID 66707
Entry_Number 106
Year 1803
Month Feb
Day 14
Grooms_Surname PERKINS
Grooms_Forenames Thomas
Grooms_Age
Groom_Condition Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation
Grooms_Residence of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation
Brides_Surname NELMES
Brides_Forenames Mary
Brides_Age
Brides_Condition Spinster
Brides_Occupation
Brides_Residence of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname
Brides_Fathers_Forenames
Brides_Fathers_Occupation
Licence_or_Banns Licence
Date_of_Banns
Signature_or_Mark Both sign
Witness_1 Thos Perkins
Witness_2 John Nelmes
Other_Witnesses
Officiating_Minister Charles Whatley rector
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference AR90/5
Page_Number 25
Parish_Chapel Aston Ingham
Soundex_Groom P625
Soundex_Bride N452

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This site's PRs include several William Hardwicks in the Upton Bishop locality stretching back to 1579 if not beyond !

1881 Brierly next to Swan Inn (all from East dean) Harriet transcribed as Alice
Joseph Terrett 38
Louisa Terrett38
Ester A. Terrett4
Alice Terrett 2

1891
William Jones abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Sarah A Jones abt 1844 Uffcoss, Wales Wife
Emily Jones abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
George Jones abt 1877 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Beatrice M A Jones abt 1873 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Niece

marriage
JONES George Edward
TERRETT Harriett Louisa
Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity
1904 4 104

Year:1904
Month:Jun
Day:1
Grooms_Surname:JONES
Grooms_Forenames:George Edward
Grooms_Age:27
Groom_Condition:Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:Engineer
Grooms_Residence:Lydbrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:Jones
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:deceased
Brides_Surname:TERRETT
Brides_Forenames:Harriet Louisa
Brides_Age:25
Brides_Condition:Spinster
Brides_Occupation:[not stated]
Brides_Residence:Brierley
Brides_Fathers_Surname:Terrett
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:Joseph
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:Wheelwright
Licence_or_Banns:Banns
Date_of_Banns:[not stated]
Signature_or_Mark:both sign
Witness_1:William Sidney Jones
Witness_2:Alice Sophia Terrett
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:James Lawton Vicar
Event:Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P109 IN 1/8
Page_Number:52
Parish_Chapel:Drybrook

1911 Upper Lydbrook
George Edward Jones 34
Harriet Louise Jones 33

and then to New Zealand sometime after the 1911 census

Hope this helps.

Mike

My adress 86 St Martins Rd,
St Martins
Christchurch 8022
New Zealand

Post WW2 "Cannop Colliery" was one of the handfull of working pits left in the Forest, it was one of the big nationalised NCB pits and worked until 1960. It's underground workings were very widespread.
See photo http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/fod-variety-2

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The history of the various Chemical works in the Lydbrook/Cannop valleys is detailed in this article which mentions Samuel,
"In 1881 five chemical works produced a range of substances by distilling wood, including charcoal, pyroligneous acid, tar, and naphtha, and employed a total of c. 130 men. The oldest works, near Cannop bridge, were in use in 1835, and George Skipp, who manufactured lead acetate there in 1841, built similar works in the Oakwood valley near Bream in 1844. In 1854 the Oakwood factory belonged to Isaiah Trotter of Coleford. The Cannop factory later produced sulphuric acid and crushed charcoal for making lampblack. At the Upper Lydbrook works, established in 1857, Samuel Russell produced naphtha in 1859 and the Broadmoor works, built north of Cinderford by John and Thomas Powell c. 1864, later made lead acetate. In 1870 the firm of Chapman & Morgan operated the chemical works some way south of Whitecroft. S. M. Thomas took over the Lydbrook factory in the mid 1870s, acquired the Cannop and Oakwood works c. 1890, and sold them all in 1894 to Thomas Newcomen, who ceased operations at Oakwood and Cannop in 1900 and 1902 respectively. The Whitecroft works, which had closed by 1883, may have been in use again in the late 1880s and early 1890s and the Broadmoor works were abandoned before 1900. The Lydbrook factory, which also made foundry blackings, remained in use until c. 1933."

From: 'Forest of Dean: Industry', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 326-354.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23267
Date accessed: 19 September 2013.

[Perhaps not related ?? to Samuel but the Russell brothers were important ironworkers in the industrial history of Lydbrook.]

The Cannop Chemical works is mentioned in the 1870 Kelly's Directory of West Dean, within the Lane End section
"Forest of Dean Chemical Co. naphtha manufacturers (W. H. Jackson, manager), Cannop works."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/westdean1870.htm

West Gloucester, Monmouth, Coleford

All that part of the Township of West Dean comprising the Perch and Buckholt Inclosures, Cannop Chemical Works, Vallett Level the North side of the Turnpike Road from Coleford to Little Dean, Coleford Lane End, Five Acres and New Thatch or Independent Pit.

Clump of inhabitants - - all named living in Canhope,(this is how it is spelt on the census) followed by Winston, Thatch Pit, and Bush Pit.

Re "Canhope" ??
Unsure what you're meaning but I dont think there's such a place anywhere. Irrespective of the census spelling I'm sure they mean Cannop (nowadays pronounced Cannup).

Hope this helps, J

1851, Census Canhope, Glos

Samuel RUSSEL - 31, Engineer, Newent
Eliza - 32 - born Newland
Elizabeth - 8
Sophia - 8 months, born West Dean *GlosBDM - 1850 - mother's maiden name BAYLE

Played golf through 4 seasons today - just getting over it and un-winding! Off for 3 day golfing tomorrow in Chester, but the weather looks good!

?

Did they marry after Elizabeth age 8 was born??

Gloucestershire bdm

Samuel RUSSELL - married Eliza BAILEY, Gloucester, Northgate - St John the Baptist 1849

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appears to be well documented on Public Members Tree on Ancestry (marriage given as 1849)

Eliza Eva BAILEY - born 29 June 1828, Ruardean
Parents: Thomas BAILEY - 1808-1875 and Ann SCOTT - 1819-1889

Samuel RUSSELL - April 1819 Okle Green, Newent (20 April 1819 - private baptism)

parents:

Nathaniel RUSSELL - 177-1863 and Elizabeth BEARD - 1774-1851

Re Sarah Russell's birth, GlosBMD has:

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
RUSSELL Sarah RUSSELL RUSSELL BAILEY 1853 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 10 11
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

I strongly suspect the Census p.o.b should read Cannop, not your Cannock suggestion. This is situated on the same B4234 road which connects the old industrial centres of Parkend and Lydbrook.
http://www.fweb.org.uk/dean/towns/cannop.htm

Given her father's chemical manufacturing background, this fits in nicely with the Chemical works at Lydbrook and later at Cannop itself. The history of these sites is detailed in this prior thread
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=41330

Mary Ann GURNEY - Widow - 64, Grocer, born Herefordshire, Aston Ingham
Dinah Selina HARDWICK - Niece - unmarried - 28 - born Herefordshire, Aston Ingham
Alfred James JONES - Nephew - 19 - Engine Driver at Works, born Glos. Lydbrook
Edwin Richard JONES - Nephew - 21 - Engine Driver at Works, born Glos. Lydbrook
Leonard JONES - 13 - born Glos. Lydbrook

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GlosBDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

JONES birth - Mother's maiden name : RUSSELL - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford

Beatrice Marian Alberta JONES - 1871
Gertrude JONES - 1874
Edith Louise JONES- 1877 **
Minnie Ida JONES- 1879
Cora JONES - 1882 (Freebdm : Jan/Feb/March Qtr 1882)

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FoD Records

Baptism at Lydbrook - 8 July 1877

Edith Louse JONES

father: Edwin Richard (occupation, Mechanic)

mother: Sarah

residence: Lydbrook

Officiating Minster: H T Hoitt

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1881 Census, English Bicknor

Lower Lydbrook

JONES

Edwin Rd - 31, Engineer Driver at Tin Works, born Lydbrook
Sarah - 27 - born Glos. Cannok
Beatrice Maria - 8
Gertrude - 6
Edwin Thomas - 5
Edith Louise - 3
Minnie Ida - 1

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1861 Census, West Dean, Lydbrook

Samuel RUFSELL - 41 - Chemical Mfg. born Parish of Newent (SS was spelt FS back then!)
Eliza RUFSELL - 32
Elizabeth - 18
Sophia - 18
Sarah - 7
William Henry - 4
Fredk Herbert - 1

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GlosBDM - RUSSELL - mother's former name BAILEY

James - 1852, Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn, Newnham
Sarah - 1853 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Male RUSSELL - 1856 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Frederic Herbert - 1859 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Eliza Gertrude - 1861 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Female RUSSELL - 1863 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
George Albert Victor - 1865 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Edith Emily Florence Maude - 1869 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford
Samuel James Victor - 1871 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford

I've read hundreds of PRs on this great site and don't recall ever seeing a "chemical manufacturer" before, most intriguing.

Hope this helps.

Edwin married Sarah Elizabeth Russell about 1871. They eventually had 11 children. Edwin came to the USA around 1881. Sarah and her brother Alfred Thomas Russell came over around 1883 with 6 of the Jones children, including my grandmother, Edith Louise Jones who was about 3 at the time. I have photos of my great grandparents taken shortly after they arrived here. In 1920 they returned to England for a visit around the time of their 50th wedding anniversary.

I have constructed a family tree for Edwin R. Jones going back to a William Jones (1745-1781) and would be interested to learn if I am on the right track.

lived in Lydbrook, not sure of birth date but apparently was an innkeeper. Is an inn a pub or just a place to stay or both? does anybody have any info on this?

Hi William, Your family rings a bell with me,from my past research files into my Grand Mothers Family the Baxters who in their early days lived in Lydbrook and may have been living next door to the Prince of Wales now closed down. I recall i have some pictures in my files , also we may-be distantly related?.If you think we are related send me your email or contact address and i will get the files out again and we can go through them more easily. Ivan