1851 2 Victoria St
Henry Gammage abt 1819 Hanslop, Buckinghamshire, England Head Hereford All Saints Herefordshire Plumber
Tryphena Gammage abt 1815 Wife Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Agnes Clara Gammage abt 1848 Herefordshire, England Daughter Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
David Carr Gammage abt 1841 Herefordshire, England Son Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Dodatus Richard C Gammage abt 1850 Herefordshire, England Son Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Edwin Thomas Gammage abt 1843 Herefordshire, England Son Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Henrietta Gammage abt 1833 Southampton Weedon Daughter Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Henry Gammage abt 1835 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Louisa Gammage abt 1846 Herefordshire, England Daughter Hereford All Saints Herefordshire
Lucy Lane Gammage abt 1840 Edgebaston, Warwickshire, England Daughter Hereford All Saints Herefordshire

1861
Henry Gammage abt 1814 Hanstop, Buckinghamshire, England Head All Saints Herefordshire
Tryphena Gammage abt 1815 Sidmouth, Devon, England Wife All Saints Herefordshire
Agness Gammage abt 1848 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire
Albert Walter Gammage abt 1856 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Son All Saints Herefordshire
Desittus R Gammage abt 1850 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Son All Saints Herefordshire
Julia Gammage abt 1852 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire
Louisa Gammage abt 1846 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire
Lucy J Gammage abt 1840 Birmingham Daughter All Saints Herefordshire
Mallora A Gammage abt 1854 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire
Noria T Gammage abt 1858 All Saints, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire

1861
Edward Gammage abt 1843 Herefordshire, England Drapers Assistant Westminster St Anne Middlesex

1871 probably Cinderford High Street
E J Gamage abt 1842 Hereford Drapers Assistant East Dean Gloucestershire

1881 96 Parade, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire, England
Edwin J. Gamage abt 1845 Hereford, England Head
Dora Gamage abt 1855 Bath Wife
Ernest Gamage abt 1875 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Son
Mabel Gamage abt 1877 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Daughter
Stanley Gamage abt 1879 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Son

Marrion Barrett abt 1862 Monmouth, Wales Apprentice
Lizzie Bennett abt 1865 Mkt Harbro, Leicestershire, England Apprentice
Lilly A. Clark abt 1861 Newark On Trent Assistant
Emma Cluff abt 1866 Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Apprentice
Edith M. Fletcher abt 1857 Brewood, Staffordshire, England Assistant
Marian Keitch abt 1855 North Curry, Somerset, England Servant
Mary J. Lane abt 1851 Windrush, Gloucestershire, England Nurse
Mary C. Page abt 1866 Stratford, Warwickshire, England Apprentice
Arthur Robson abt 1866 Marton, Yorkshire, England Apprentice
Jennie Smith abt 1862 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Assistant
Mary A.A. Vaustone abt 1860 (Bath) Assistant

1891 94 & 96 Parade
Gamage, Edwin L abt 1848 Hereford Head Leamington Warwickshire
Gamage, Dora abt 1857 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Leamington Warwickshire
Gamage, Ernest abt 1876 Taunton, Somerset, England Son Leamington Warwickshire
Gamage, Mabel abt 1879 Lamington, Warwickshire, England Daughter Leamington Warwickshire
Gamage, Stanley abt 1881 Lamington, Warwickshire, England Son Leamington Warwickshire
Gamage, Victor abt 1884 Lamington, Warwickshire, England Son Leamington Warwickshire
Aubray, Julia abt 1871 Hereford, Ross Assistant Leamington Warwickshire

1901 Prospect View, Warwick New Rd
Edwin F Gamage abt 1844 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Head New Milverton Warwickshire Draper / Silk Merchant
Dora J Gamage abt 1856 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Wife New Milverton Warwickshire
E V Gamage abt 1876 Taunton, Somerset, England Son New Milverton Warwickshire
Mabel Gamage abt 1879 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Daughter New Milverton Warwickshire
V B Gamage abt 1884 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Son New Milverton Warwickshire
E Barnett abt 1884 Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England Servant New Milverton Warwickshire

1871 East St Taunton Drapers Shop
Edwin Gamage abt 1845 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Head Taunton St Mary Somerset
Agnes Gamage abt 1850 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Sister Taunton St Mary Somerset

Name: Gamage, Agnes Clara
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: March
Year: 1875
District: Westbury on Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 358

Regarding the 1851 & 1861 census -- The listing for Henry Gammage, Head of Household and Tryphena, Wife -- These are my great-great-great grandparents. Their son, listed as Dodatus Richard C in the 1851 census and as Desittus R. in the 1861 census is my great-great grandfather.

David Carr Gammage encouraged my g-g grandfather (Deodatus Richard Carr Gammage) to bring his family to the USA and they brought along their widowed father, Henry, in 1881 from what I can gather.

I notice that Edwin is listed as Edwin T. and later as Edwin J. --must be the way the script was read by the transcibers or perhaps the way it was written by the enumerators.

I am in contact with a descendant of Albert Walter Gammage who reside in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

< these are as transcribed , so may be the result of mis hearing by the Enumerator, or the handwriting !>

1871
Henry Gammage abt 1813 Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England Head All Saints Herefordshire
Tryphenia Gammage abt 1815 Sidmouth, Devon, England Wife All Saints Herefordshire
Norah Gammage abt 1858 All Saints Hereford, Herefordshire, England Daughter All Saints Herefordshire

and this one !

1871 22 Brighton Terr , Hope St
Deodakis Gamage abt 1850 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire Coachman
Elizabeth Gamage abt 1848 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire
Deodakis Gamage abt 1869 Hereford, Herefordshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire
Jane Gamage abt 1868 Keston, Kent, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire
Thomas Gamage abt 1870 Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire

Name: Gamage, Deodatus Richard C
Rogers, Elizabeth
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: September
Year: 1867
District: Hereford
County: Herefordshire Monmouthshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 869

1851 Boars Hill ( near Crizeley / Didley / Wormbridge)
John Rogers abt 1796 Llancillow, Herefordshire, England Head St Devereux Herefordshire Railway Officer
Jane Rogers abt 1806 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Wife St Devereux Herefordshire
Catharine Rogers abt 1843 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Daughter St Devereux Herefordshire
Elizabeth Rogers abt 1848 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Daughter St Devereux Herefordshire
Louisa Rogers abt 1841 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Daughter St Devereux Herefordshire
Mary Rogers abt 1831 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Daughter St Devereux Herefordshire
Sarah Rogers abt 1833 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Daughter St Devereux Herefordshire
Thomas Rogers abt 1838 Clodock, Herefordshire, England Son St Devereux Herefordshire

1861 working in a Farm
Elizabeth Rogers abt 1848 Herefordshire, England Servant Cefn Calanog Radnorshire

An early Entrepreneur A W Gamage ( brother of Deodatus G. ; son of Henry)

1881 Living in his store
Albert W. Gamage abt 1856 Hereford, England Head 128 Holborn, St Andrews, London, England

1901
Albert W Gamage abt 1856 Herefordshire, England Head Hornsey Middlesex
Jeannie M Gamage abt 1868 Lanarkshire (Glasgow), Scotland Wife Hornsey Middlesex
Cecil M Gamage abt 1896 Hornsey, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex
Daphne C Gamage abt 1893 Hornsey, Middlesex, England Daughter Hornsey Middlesex
Leslie C Gamage abt 1888 Hornsey, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex

Gamage's department store first opened in Holborn, London, in 1878. It sold affordable, high quality domestic goods,
and produced cram-packed catalogues with which shoppers could order items for home delivery. The store also offered
an international shipping service that allowed goods to be sent 'throughout the empire'. Many of these catalogues
focused on particular types of products such as picnic baskets, bee keeping appliances, magic tricks, or motoring
accessories. By the early 20th century, Gamage's was one of London's best known stores.

http://storyoflondon.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=443

Arthur Walter Gamage was the son of a Herefordshire farmer who was apprenticed to a London draper in St.Paul's churchyard. In 1878 at the age of 21 and having saved £40 equivalent to at least £2,500 today he decided to set up his own shop in partnership with Frank Spain.

Between them they raised the £88 necessary to lease and fit a small watch repair shop in Holborn.The owner assured them that a hosiery shop would do well in the area. The frontage was no more than five feet and above it Gamage hung his motto "Tall Oaks from Little Acorns Grow".The partners lived in the back room of the shop and allowed themselves no more than fourteen shillings a week for their living expenses,

Gamage insisted on selling everything cheaper than anywhere else and gradually crowds began to visit the shop even though the area was unfashionable. By the end of the first year trading had grown to £1,632.In 1881 Gamage bought Spain out and began to expand the premises by buying the small properties that surrounded his original shop. By the end of the decade most of the block between Leather Lane and Hatton Gardens was in his hands. Because of the piecemeal expansion his Department Store ended up as a maze of rooms steps passages and ramps which Gamage now called the People's Popular Emporium.

And it was popular with children and adults alike who experienced something of an adventure as they wandered through the warren in search of bargains. It offered a very wide selection of goods including haberdashery furniture sporting goods gardening supplies and utensils camping equipment and clothing. Gamage went on to become the official supplier of uniforms to the Boy Scout movement and continued to expand.

A large zoological department and a toy department were joined by a motor department where one could even purchase a motor car and all the equipment required for running it. One of the largest departments was that devoted to pedal-bicycles and motorcycles. In 1911 49 pages of his 900 page catalogue were devoted to bicycles.

Gamage died in 1930 and tradition has it that he lay in state in the cycle department with a guard of honour made up of members of his staff.
The premises closed in March 1972 and disappeared in the massive redevelopment scheme which now occupies the site.

The 1871 census is amusing. Deodakis? That would be Deodatus. This is the first time that I have ever seen anything that tells me where Elizabeth (Rogers) Gamage was born.

Thomas should not be in this census -- he was not born until 1874, by his own accounts. Jane was the eldest, then my great-grandfather Deodatus John, born 1868 in Hereford. Next came Albert and then Tom.

In the passenger list from the Persian Monarch (1881, when they emigrated) it shows the family listed as follows;
Henry - 60 (?), D.C.R. - 29, Mrs. D.C.R. - 28, Jane - 11, John - 10, Albert - 8, Edwin - 6, Elizabeth - 3 and Rosalie - 2.

From Uncle Tom's memoirs I have it that Tom was 6 years old when they came to America. I believe that Edwin is actually Albert's middle name and I have no idea who Rosalie is. There should have been another brother, Richard or Dick, listed and a sister Agnes.

You posted the 1900 US census, Manhattan New York. John H. Gamage, head of household is my great-grandfather (Deodatus John or John Deodatus). Agnes, daughter , born 1899 is my grandmother. And you see another Agnes (sister) listed. Strange how these things are listed.

In his memoirs, Uncle Tom relates that his mother was the daughter of "farmer Rogers, the Squire of Roger's Grange," and that the Gamages owned a neighboring hunting preserve. Elizabeth and Deodatus were married in the spring of 1868 according to his story, but the register shows that they were married in 1867.

I always have to keep in mind the fact that Uncle Tom is eighty yearrs old when he writes these memories. Later, he tells that after being widowed, his mother received a $300 legacy, in 1884, which came to her from the death of her brother John in England. The 1851 UK census that you posted only shows one brother, Thomas.

That would be, brother of Deodatus Richard Carr Gamage.

I too am a descendent of AW Gamage of Gamages Department Store in London - we have quite a group of us on Ancestory.com and I'm now quite far back with our line. Please email me
Miranda

So from a question about the Crown, Hawthorns, you have some more new info .... :-)

"CLODOCK, a parish in the hundred of Ewyas-Lacy, in the county of Hereford, 4 miles W. of the Pontrilas station of the Newport and Hereford line, and the same distance S.W. of Abbey Dore. It is situated on the river Munnow, under the Black mountains, and contains the chapelries of Crasswall, Llanvoynoo, Longtown, and Newton. The living is a vicarage* in the diocese of Hereford, value £222, in the patronage of W. Wilkins, Esq. There are four distinct churches, all perpetual curacies in the patronage of the vicar. The parish church, dedicated to St. Cleodocus, is a stone edifice in the early English style, with square tower. The charities produce £20 per annum. On Watling Street is a Roman camp and an old castle. Fairs are held on the 29th April, 22nd June, and the 21st September."

LLANCILLO, a parish in the hundred of Ewyas-Lacy, county Hereford, 4 miles S. of Abbey Dore, 8 from Abergavenny, and 13 S.W. of Hereford, its post town. The Pontrilas station on the West Midland railway is 2 miles N.E. of the village. It is situated on the river Monnow. There is no village, only a few farmhouses. The living is a perpetual curacy in the diocese of Hereford, value £105. The church is an ancient stone edifice, dedicated to St. Peter. There are small charities of about £1 per annum. Colonel Scudamore is lord of the manor."

Longton = Longtown ( and Clodock)

JOHN GILBERT ROGERS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 JAN 1829 Clodock, Hereford, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN ROGERS
Mother: JANE
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1851
John Rogers abt 1829 Longton, Herefordshire, England Servant Streatham Surrey

1861 18 Blewett St Newport
John Rogers abt 1797 Llomerlloo, Herefordshire, England Head Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire Rail worker
Jane Rogers abt 1806 Langton, Herefordshire, England Wife Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire
Cathrine Rogers abt 1843 Langton, Herefordshire, England Daughter Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire
John G Rogers abt 1830 Langton, Herefordshire, England Son Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire Railway Guard
Lewisa Rogers abt 1841 Langton, Herefordshire, England Daughter Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire
Thomas Haims abt 1859 Hereford Grandson Newport St Woollos Monmouthshire

1871 Didley Court next to Didley School ( north east of Wormbridge)
John Rogers abt 1799 Lancillo Head St Devereux Herefordshire Retired Farmer
Jane Rogers abt 1806 Clodock Wife St Devereux Herefordshire

Didley Court Farm
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Co ords: 345070,231990

just down the road from "Roger's Hill" and Rogers Hill Farm - I wonder if this is the start of the "Rogers Grange"

23 Bailey st Newport
John G Rogers abt 1831 Longton, Herefordshire, England Head Newport Monmouthshire railway Guard
Maria Rogers abt 1839 Herefordshire, England Wife Newport Monmouthshire

1881 No 20 Prince Leopold St, Roath, Glamorgan, Wales
John G. Rogers abt 1829 Clodock, Hereford, England Head Railway Guard
Mary Rogers abt 1832 Backstone, Hereford, England Wife

1891 1 Janet St Roath
Rogers, Mary abt 1832 Bacon, Herefordshire, England Widow Roath Glamorgan

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Births Mar 1868
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GAMAGE Jane Tryphena C Bromley 2a 338

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Births Jun 1870
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Gamage Henry Thomas R King's N. 6c 456

I can only speculate without a full search of the BMD records that Henry Thomas may have died.

Name: Henry Gamage
Baptism Date: 1813
Parent 1: John Gamage
Parent 2: Eliz Gamage
Parish: Hanslope
County: Buckinghamshire

The UK census was carried out on 3rd April 1881

The "Gamage" party arrives in the States in mid October, however I cannot find then in the UK census, so where were they in April 1881 ???

Arriving on Persian Monarch from London on 17 Oct 1881

Henry Gamage 1821 Male
Elizth Gamage 1878 Female
Rosalie Gamage 1879 Female
D C R Gammage 1852 Male
Mrs. D C R Gammage 1853 Female
Albert Gammage 1873 Male
Edwin Gammage 1875 Male
Jane Gammage 1870 Female
John Gammage 1871 Male

According to Uncle Tom's story, the family moved back to London when he was only six weeks old (Late July or early August 1874). He mentions living at 40 Bryant Street, near Kender Primary School and having adventures at Wandsworth Common. His father, Deodatus, was an inspector for the London Tramway Company.

Later, after the birth of sister Bessie and brother Dick, they moved to a "more fashionable neighborhood" and a larger home at 35 Old Kent Road and he includes a picture.

At the point where they were making plans to cross the Atlantic, he mentions his father's sister "Aunt Payne." It is the only time he speaks of her and I have no idea who she is. Is it possible that Payne is her married name?

The time lines that Uncle Tom uses in his memoirs (he says they came in the summer of 1880) don't always match the facts that we have been finding in census records and the Persian Monarch records. But I keep telling myself that he was 80 years old when he wrote this book.

Add the fact that after they arrived in the states they became virtual vagabonds. After the death of their father in Judsonia, Arkansa, USA about a year or so after they arrived, their mother fostered most of her children out to neighbors, friends and "family."

In his teen age years he worked odd jobs, here and there. He speaks of working as a cook in Chicago, Illinois at the time of the Exposition.

Uncle Tom tells that after attending one year of school in London, he was not able to get back to his education until he was in his twenties. Eventually he became a doctor.

a possible sighting of a widowed Henry in London 1881

< 90% sure this would sound like "Henry Gamag, Hanslop, Bucks" >

Henry Gamogh abt 1812 Henstap, Buckinghamshire, England Lodger
The Chimes Coffee Palace, 26 Gt Smith St , London, England Retired Builder

Kender and Briant St are at the eastern end ( New Cross) of Old Kent Road, in parish of Deptford St Paul.

40 Briant St, Deptford St Paul, London, England
Richard Can abt 1850 Hereford, England Head Inspector of Tramway
Eliza Can abt 1848 Hereford, England Wife
Albert Can abt 1873 Gloucestershire, England Son
Bessie Can abt 1877 Northamptonshire, England Daughter
Jane Can abt 1868 Kenton, Kent, England Daughter
John Can abt 1869 Hereford, England Son
Richard Can abt 1879 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son
Thomas Can abt 1875 Hereford, England Son

Name: Gamage, Richard Carr
Record Type: Births
Quarter: March
Year: 1879
District: Wandsworth
County: London Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 651

The handwriting appears as Can, but in context Carr is the most likely

Leads me to ask were they recorded as CARR rather than GAMAGE ?
< so was Tryphena a CARR before marriage ? >

living nearby at 9 Gellatly Rd, Deptford St Paul, London, England

George Gamage abt 1836 Upton, Buckinghamshire, England Head
Eliza Gamage abt 1821 Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Wife
Alfred Gamage abt 1858 Mannden, Essex, England Son

.. and yes the first thing from IGI is...

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TRYPHENA CARR
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Marriages:
Spouse: HENRY GAMMAGE
Marriage: 08 AUG 1831 Leamington Priors, Warwick, England
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This looks like my family -- excellent hunting!

The kids name are there - the approximate birth dates are right - and Yes Tryphena was a Carr. "Carr" shows up a lot in hre childrens and grandchildrens middle names.

My Great grandfather was Albert Edwin Gammage on my mothers side he had 8 children by the names of Albert W., Deodatus D, Thomas M., Daisy, Elizabeth, Agnes, Charlotte and Alice. The family moved from London by ship when Albert Edwin was a child and ended up settling in Arkansas and later moved to Miami, FL. in 1921. My mother was the daughter of Albert W. Gammage. All of this sounds like we may be related, what do you think?

Hello! I'm the great-granddaughter of Deodatus D. Gammage. Albert Edwin Gammage was my Great-Great Grandfather. Did a Google search on Albert Edwin Gammage to see what came up and this thread was one of the results.

We are related! Cousins! Albert Edwin Gammage was my GG grandfather. Deodatus was my Great-Grandfather

Hi Cousin, Thank you for your reply I posted that in 2015 so it has been a few years ago. My name is Don I grew up in Miami and now living in North Florida near my brother and sister.My mother Shirley Gammage passed away some years ago. Albert Edwin was a preacher and founded three churches and was pastor at seven different churches. In Miami he was the first pastor at Riverside Baptist and then founded Calvary Baptist where he preached till he passed away.I have more info if you are interested.

Don

Hi there!

Thanks for replying! I was actually contacted by a very distant Gammage relation from 23andMe and it got me chasing rabbits, so to speak. My name is Mary Ellen. I live in Michigan, though grew up in Georgia. My Great Grandfather, Deodatus, moved to Georgia when I was still pretty little but he passed when I was 13. My grandmother, his daughter, Joyce, still lives in the house he bought! I'd love to know more about my family as my grandmother is the last living of the Gammages that I know and she is well in to her 80s. Please email me smithersme@yahoo.com.

Thanks!