Hi

After getting loads of help from this group sorting out the two Giles and Sarah Griffiths families in Ruardean in the 1800'S, I now think that my Giles and Sarah may have had a child Eliza circa 1822. I know she isnt on the census with them 1841 and there is an Eliza on the other Giles and Sarah Griffiths in Ruardean but my Giles had a son called Henry whose death cert shows him to have a sister Eliza.
Confused? I am!

I wonder if anyone has the means to find out just how many Eliza Griffiths were born/baptised in Ruardean circa 1822.

Likewise if anyone can find an Eliza Griffiths not living at home on 1841 census I would be interested.

I believe she married John Taylor in Monmouthshire circa 1843 and so by 1851 she is married and living in East Dean.

Another thought has struck me, does 1841 census show relationships as the Eliza Griffiths in Ruardean has an older sister Elizabeth, maybe she is a cousin and not a sister, is there anyway of telling?

Hoping someone can help.

carol

1841 is simply a record of those living at an "address", no relationships are given, just name, age, occupation and born in county or not.

I am in the process of transcribing the Ruardean baptisms from 1813 - 1901, so far I have got up to 1824, but a search shows:

Mary dau of Giles/Sarah Griffiths bapt 25 September 1820
Eliza dau of Giles/Sarah Griffiths bapt 12 January 1823
Mary dau of Giles/Sarah Griffiths bapt 19 January 1823
William son of Father not stated/Sarah Griffiths bapt 2 November 1823

I also have
Sarah Griffiths age 58 buried 9 June 1855 and
Giles Griffiths buried 1 November 1863 (no age given)

The only possible marriage I can find for Giles & Sarah is:

Giles Griffiths married Sarah Meek 15 July 1820 at Llanwenarth,
Monmouthshire.

Hi

Thanks Graham, thats certainly given me and my fellow Griffiths researchers food for thought. And a general thanks for the great work you are doing re baptism records!

The two Giles and Sarah Griffiths families on 1841 census Ruardean are certainly hard to distinguish but from your info it seems that the Meek family are involved with the Griffiths- again.

1841 Ruardean Village HO107/365/10 folio 9
Sinder Hill -( Cinderhill )

Giles GRIFFITHS 40 Collier
Sarah 45
Mary 20
James 15
Ann 10
George 8 ?
Henry 6
Thomas 4
Giles 1

and

1841 Newmans Bottom ( near High Beech)
Giles GRIFFITHS Giles 45
Sarah 40
Elizabeth 20
Eliza 15
Giles 3
Catherine 6 months

I have a birth cert of Giles Griffiths 1840 showing Sarahs maiden name to be Morgan and so maybe we now know that the other Sarahs name was Meek.

Does you baptism records show mams maiden names by any chance cos its getting so hard to differentiate who is who. As you can see from census it looks like Mary and Elizas parents were different.

Any thoughts welcome.

carol

Sorry no maiden names, but I have found a few burials.

6 February 1828 Ann Griffiths age 9 dau of Giles & Sarah in the Workhouse

6 January 1829 George Griffiths age 21m son of Giles & Sarah of Ruardean

7 February 1839 Harriet Griffiths age 7m son of Giles & Sarah of Ruardean

25 September 1842 Giles Griffiths age 4 son of Giles of Woodside

Hi Graham

Again many thanks. More for us to ponder over!

Poor little Ann, wonder why she was in the workhouse?

I suppose they might all have been in there.

Makes you think.

Thanks again, you are keeping a band of Griffiths' very busy.

Carol