Hale family of Lane End, West Dean

Hi everyone - I'm sure someone out there can help !
I have researched down to a Moses Hale (born about 1799) and baptised I believe at Newland, possibly on May 29 that year. He married Ann.

Also, hopefully his father, again named Moses, born about 1771 and believed married (to Anne) on Feb. 9 1790 also at Newland. He lived at Lane End, West Dean.
If anyone can help or guide me towards obtaining records for Newland for these years I would be more than grateful.

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You might like to have a look at Edwin Hale's webpage. It looks like your Moses is there.

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:2166940

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Margaret,

Many thanks for your reply and for the link. Unfortunately the Moses' I am looking for are not there. Most of the Hale's on this site seem to originate from the Littledean area.
Regards, Ray

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MOSES HALE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 MAY 1799 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: MOSES HALE
Mother: ANNE
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C036202 1560 - 1565 0423272 Film 6911882 Film
C036202 1583 - 1812 0425476 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

MOSES HALE
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANNE HAMTON
Marriage: 09 FEB 1790 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M036201 1754 - 1851 0856960 Film 6911883 Film
Sheet: 00

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MOSES HALE
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY WATKINS
Marriage: 21 JUN 1761 Goodrich, Hereford, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M145921 1661 - 1843 0992150 Film NONE
Sheet:

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Thanks, slowhands, thats a great help. Is there any definite relationship between Moses Hale and Anne Hamton and Moses Hale and Mary Watkins?

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slowhands can you help me with this querymoses haleb1904 to hubert and elizabeth.hubert b1868 to moses and susan davies moses b1832 to moses and ann.cant find any marriage for this couple.know that after that moses b1799 to moses and ann hamton married 1790.have found all marriages for others.

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My suspicion falls here :-

Why - Hawkins is "common" in Berry Hill / Eng Bicknor and this may be a "local" church ( just down the hill) willing to marry a pregnant bride ?

MOSES HALE
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN HAWKINS
Marriage: 27 MAR 1820 Dixton Newton, Monmouth, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M023702 1660 - 1836 0992298 Film NONE
Sheet:

With a "first"child born soon after...

Year: 1820
Month: Jul
Day: 30
Parents Surname: HALE
Child Forenames: Edward
Father's Forenames: Moses
Mother's Forenames: Anne
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Berryhill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: S.F. Morgan
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P82 IN 1/1
Page No: 19
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch

I think there is a Henry Hale and Ann Hawkins marriage in about 1815 Newland ???
Year: 1815
Month: Feb
Day: 4
Groom Surname: HALE
Groom Forenames: Henry
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: HAWKINS
Bride Forenames: Ann
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both Mark
Witness 1: Mark of Thomas Hale
Witness 2: Mark of Sarah Hawkins
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: William Nunn Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page No: 27
Parish_Chapel: Newland

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thanks,yes that does seem strange,especially because if the child was baptised 30/7/1820 then it was most probaly born before that date.i am sure this is right because the 1841 census gives moses,ann,edward21,john15 and moses12 living at pool way lane this i am sure is my family but i am stuck after moses b 1799 i know his father was moses(again)and ann hamton but cant work beyond that as there is more than 1 birth for this one born around1772.any ideas ???

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Hello Ray

I have just joined this forum and I am also researching HALE of Lane End, West Dean. My interest is through Henry HALE (b.c1835) and his parents Thomas (b.c1794)and Ann. Thomas was the son of Aaron HALE (b.c1766) and Elizabeth EVANS.

In the 1841 Census Aaron HALE, is living next door to Thomas & Ann and also livied in close proximity to Moses HALE (70)and Ann (25). Also Moses (40) & Ann (40) HALE and their children Edward (20), John (15), Moses (12) and Mary (9) who I understand was his son.

Next door to Moses HALE snr was George (50) & Sarah (45) HALE and their children Sarah (15), Charlot (14), George (12), Pheby (10) and Agnes (4).

I suspect these families are inter-related in some way.

Dee

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Hello Dee,

Nice to see we are researching similar threads for the Hale family.
Yes, there are several possibilities on that 1841 census. My interest is with old Moses Hale (70) who was my GGGG/grandfather. At this point he is probably living with his daughter (Ann 25). His wife Anne (Hamton) has obviously died.

George (50) who lives next door is his son - born 1791 and christened at Newland on July 24. He married Sarah Ferber in 1811. Other children are Moses, John and Nancy. My line continues here with Moses. No doubt Thomas (25) (and Diana) who live next door was Thomas's son. One big happy family here waiting to be unravelled !!

My wife and I paid a visit to the Forest of Dean recently visiting many of the places connected with the Hales on the census forms - Parkend, Bromley Lodge in Ellwood where they once lived, Coleford, Newland and several pits where they worked. So we got a real feel for the area. Incidentally Lane End is now known as Broadwell.

Please let me know of any progress you make and I will do the same.

Regards, Ray

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Incidentally Lane End is now known as Broadwell.

Yes and no !

The Eastern fringe of Coleford is a ribbon development up against the Forest Inclosures, often referred to as Lane End, and encompasses Broadwell Lane End , Coalway Lane End and Littledean Lane End ( at least)

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co-ords 358722,210775

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