george nurse beard (General)

by petergee, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 16:14 (3509 days ago)

george nurse beard was a lieutenant in the Great War and was related to Edwin Beard of the Tinworks. I have failed to find out what regiment he served with although I have anewspaper report showing he was wounded and hospitalised.

Can anyone help?

Thanks

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 16:42 (3509 days ago) @ petergee

For starters

In the Section: Forest of Dean WW1 Serviceman

Surname: BEARD

Forename: George

Rank: Lieutenant

Regiment: South Wales Borders

Residence: Redbrook

Notes 2: Wounded August 1916

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1911 Census

Redbrook

BEARD

George Nurse BEARD - 15 (living with his family at Redbrook House - father Edwin)

Edwin - 47 - Manager Tinplate Works, all born Newland
Catherine Jane - 47
May Nurse - 16
George Nurse - 15
Brenda - 13

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 18:56 (3509 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Western Daily Press 5 December 1916

NOTICE is Hereby Given that the PARTNERSHIP heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned THOMAS AUSTIN EGELSTAFF and GEORGE NURSE BEARD carrying on business as Quarrymen and Stone Merchants at Pheasants Quarry Abbott's Leigh Somerset and at Water Lane in the parish of Temple in the City and County of Bristol under the style or firm of Egelstaff and Beard has been DISSOLVED by mutual consent as and from the 30th day of November 1916.
All debts due and owing by the said late firm will be received and paid by the undersigned Thomas Austin Egelstaff by whom in future the business will be carried on.
Dated the 4th day of December 1916.
THOMAS AUSTIN EGELSTAFF.
GEORGE NURSE BEARD.

FreeBMD: Births Mar 1858
Surname First Name(s) District Vol Page
Beard George Nurse Wheatenhurst 6a 263


FreeBMD: Deaths Mar 1946
Surname First Name(s) Age District Vol Page
Beard George N 87 Bristol 6a 255

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by shepway @, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 19:20 (3509 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

It is possible that this relates to another George Nurse Beard who was born at Saul, Gloucestershire in 1858. He was resident in Bedminster in 1901 and Clifton Wood, Bristol in 1911 when he was described as a House Agent and Collector.
George Nurse Beard son of Edwin was just 15 and at school at the time of the 1911 Census.

Mike

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by petergee, Monday, April 27, 2015, 08:10 (3509 days ago) @ shepway

Yes as unusual as the name is there are two of the same name. I suspect there may be a link.

I have the 1901 and 1911 censuss and have found all the available information regarding his unit.
The only George Beard I have found with the Sout Wales Borderersso far was a Corporalnot a Lieutenant.

No trace of the Lieutennat at the National Archives.

Searches of the London Gazette showing his appointmenst as a Lieuteant so far have shownnothing (although that is likely due to the poor character recognition for print from 1916).

I have a number of newspaper items in which he is named but it wouldseem that his service record was lost in WWII.
Was his middle name taken after the Nurse family at the works??

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by MPGriffiths @, Monday, April 27, 2015, 08:24 (3509 days ago) @ petergee

On Ancestry there are a couple of Public Members' Trees

1871 Census, Pontymister Works, Risca - Monmouth

David NURSE - 70 - Tin Works Manager, born Glamorgan, Whitchurch
Augusta NURSE - wife - 69 born Gloucester Saul
George N BEARD - Stepson - 15 - Scholar, born Saul
Mary A NURSE, visitor - ummarried - 36 - born Saul
John W NURSE -visitor - Mar - 28 Captain of Vessell - born Saul


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Ancestry - copy of marriage at Gloucester St Mary de Lobe

23 January 1869

David NURSE (Widower) - Manager of a Tin Works, residence: Risca Monmouth (father George NURSE, Baller)
married Harriet Augusta BEARD (Widow) - father George NURSE - occupation Coachman

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by shepway @, Monday, April 27, 2015, 08:43 (3508 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

George Beard son of Edwin was born 1896:
Births Jun 1896
Beard George James H Monmouth 11a 17

George and siblings from Glos BMD:
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BEARD Brenda Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1897 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 54 366
BEARD Doris Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1895 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 52 4
BEARD George James Henry BEARD BEARD NURSE 1896 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 53 30
BEARD May Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1893 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 50 159

Parents marriage:
Marriages Jun 1892
BEARD Edwin Monmouth 11a 81
Nurse Cassie Monmouth 11a 81

This is the family at Redbrook House, Redbrook in 1911
Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country Address
Edwin Beard Head 1864 47 Male Married Manager Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Catherine Jane Beard Wife 1864 47 Female Married Machen Monmouthshire Wales Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
May Nurse Beard Daughter 1894 17 Female Single School Student Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
George Nurse Beard Son 1896 15 Male Single School Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Brenda Nurse Beard Daughter 1898 13 Female School Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Ida Hudson Servant 1893 18 Female Single General Servant (domestic) Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth

Edwin is described as Manager of Tinplate Works.

Mike

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by petergee, Monday, April 27, 2015, 08:48 (3508 days ago) @ shepway

So Nurse was his mothers maiden name! Great.

Thanks

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Monday, April 27, 2015, 09:07 (3508 days ago) @ petergee

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Monday, April 27, 2015, 11:42 (3508 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

Sorry about that, I should have tested them before leaving. Having another go using the website url's.

http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Redbrook/Tinplate_Managers_House_1910.html

http://www.burgumfamily.com/pages/pl%20redbrook.html

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Monday, April 27, 2015, 11:48 (3508 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

No, these don't work either. They may be intentionally blocked. I Googled Redbrook House Redbrook Gloucestershire, then Images. Quite near the top is image of tinplate works, early 19th Century perhaps. Scroll down further and find Redbrook House circa 1900/10 May well be Beard family standing out front.

The links provided in previous posts have been amended and should now work.
Admin

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Monday, April 27, 2015, 12:03 (3508 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

Thank you Admin, they do.

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers)

by petergee, Monday, April 27, 2015, 12:58 (3508 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

Many thanks

Edwin + Catherine Jane BEARD + TEAGUE

by MPGriffiths @, Monday, April 27, 2015, 16:39 (3508 days ago) @ petergee

Burial at Newland - 6 August 1932

Catherine Jane BEARD - age 69

residence: Rose Villa North Parade Monmouth


Ancestry:

Catherine Jane BEARD of Rose Villa North-parade-terrace Monmouth (wife of Edwin BEARD) - died 4 July 1932. Pr Llandaff 23 July to the said Edwin BEARD gentleman and May TEAGUE (wife of Charles TEAGUE) : Effects £1,012 10s

By Googling: Edwin BEARD, Rose Villa North Parade Monmouth - he was applying for a patent on push bars for perambultors/baby carriages etc at Rose Villa - Monmouth - date 25 August 1931

Burial at Newland - 22 Jan 1936

Edwin BEARD age 71

residence: Rose Villa Monmouth

Ancestry:


BEARD Edwin of North Parade Monmouth died 18 January 1936. Pr Llandaff 3 April to Charles Edward TEAGUE engineer.
Effects £3,071 11s


May was aged 16 on the 1911 census

The above couple May and Charles TEAGUE are on Public Members Tree and married 1920 at Newland

(witnesses: Geof ? is this GEOJ or GEO.J BEARD and Brenda Nurse BEARD)

Had a look at the original on Ancestry and do question this christian name

1911 Census, Bowson House, Cinderford

TEAGUE

Moses Edward - 54 - Mechanical Engineer - Iron & Brass (Employer) - born Cinderford
Elizabeth - 42 - born Glasgow
Hilda Irene - 21 - all born Cinderford
Charles Edward Stephen - 19 - Apprentice to Engineering
Doris Elizabeth - 13 - School
Florence Edith Webb - 20 - Domestic - born Dryrbook

and by googling Moses Edward TEAGUE, Bowson House Cinderford - again another Patent application 19 October 1914 - pateneted 2 January 1917

(very detailed including a drawing….. just a short quote…..)

New and useful improvements in Governor Mechanisms for compressor enginers and the like….. etc

george nurse beard

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 17:20 (3509 days ago) @ petergee

For confirmation:-

BNA Gloucestershire Echo Friday 01 September 1916

LIEUT. G. BEARD

Lieut. George BEARD South Wales Borderers, who has been invalided home to a London hospital with serious scalp wounds after having been at the front less than a month, is the son of Mr T (sic. Should this be E?) BEARD manager of the Redbrook Tinplate Works, Forest of Dean.

george nurse beard

by petergee, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 18:05 (3509 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thanks everyone now I should be able totrace him through the regiment

george nurse beard

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Monday, April 27, 2015, 17:21 (3508 days ago) @ petergee

From the photograph of Redbrook House 1910, I suggest the three people were George Nurse Beard 14, Catherine Jane Beard 46 and Brenda aged 12. What do others think.

george nurse beard

by HarryBrook @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 07:50 (3507 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

It's been said before - don't rely solely on newspaper reports.
I think in this case the rank of George Beard was incorrectly stated, since there is no officer service file after 1913 for a George Nurse Beard or plain George Beard at the National Archives, or any Beard, South Wales Borderers; there are no notifications of military appointments found in the London Gazette for George Nurse Beard or G. N. Beard ("gazetting" as a 2nd Lieutenant was usually announced with the officer's full name, and subsequent promotions, appointments, relinquishing commission, etc. with initials and surname); there is no listing of G.N. or G. Beard in Army Lists for March 1916, October 1917, and August 1918 (listing of officers and their various Regiments or Corps).
There is no record of WW1 campaign medals being issued to George Nurse Beard (although this is not conclusive proof since an officer was required to claim the medals).
The only record of WW1 campaign medals to a George Beard of The South Wales Borderers is to Corporal George Beard 35365 2nd Battalion.
There is no surviving service record for him.
It needs further research from some other source or sources - I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

george nurse beard

by shepway @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 08:42 (3506 days ago) @ HarryBrook

Whilst George appears in the 1911 Census as George Nurse Beard the name registered at birth was George James Henry Beard.
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BEARD George James Henry BEARD BEARD NURSE 1896 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 53 30

That said I cannot find this name in WW1 records.

Mike

George James Henry BEARD/Doris Mary SMITH

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 08:56 (3506 days ago) @ shepway

In previous reply : I did question whether the witness Geof BEARD at the marriage of May BEARD Newland 1920 was Geo.J BEARD - as the original on Ancestry does appear to be Geo.J.

???

Church of Latter Day Saints

Marriage at Bishton, Monmouthshire, Wales - 20 August 1922

George James Henry BEARD - to Doris Mary SMITH


Ancestry has copy of the Banns at Newland

August 20/August 27/September 10th

George James Henry BEARD, Bachelor of this Parish and Doris Mary SMITH, Spinster, of this parish of Monmouth

george nurse beard

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 08:57 (3506 days ago) @ shepway

The Gazette does report the appointment of George James Henry BEARD as a second lieutenant, but this is in the Monmouthshire Regiment.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29289/supplement/8982

george nurse beard

by shepway @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 09:13 (3506 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

There is a document on Find My Past in which he is mentioned:

DAILY ORDERS PART II. No. 267 dated 2.10.1918. continued. SHEET II

OFFICER5 CAMP.

(1) ATTACHMENTS.

Tho undernamed Officers have been attached to the Officers’ Mess under
canvas, army School of Physical and Bayonet Training, for rations and
accommodation from and to dates shown ;—

Lieut. BEARD G.J.H. 2nd Mon.R. Attd 53 S.W.M. 3/9 - 26/9/18

From this it would appear that he was promoted from 2nd Lieut. to Lieut.

Mike

george nurse beard

by RogerrGriffiths @, Swindon, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 10:34 (3506 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Perhaps a reprieve for Lt. Beard. Newspaper just got the Regiment wrong. SWB and Mon. Regt. undoubtedly recruited from same general area which encroached into FoD. A brother of my grandfather (Soudley, East Dean)was a volunteer in the Royal Monmouthshie Royal Engineers Militia for several years in the 1890's. (3,000 officers and OR's, how about that).

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral)

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 11:12 (3506 days ago) @ RogerrGriffiths

Death: March Qtr 1929, Monmouth

George J H BEARD - birth about 1897

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British Newspapers on Line Inc Dundee Paper/Gloucester Citizen etc - 4 February 1929 re: Captain J H BEARD, Coronor stops the funeral at Newland/Coleford … and may have been accelerated by a war wound.

Don't subscribe - so can't read all the article

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Burial at Newland - 5 February 1929

George Henry BEARD - age 32, residence: The Flat Redbrook

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral)

by HarryBrook @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 12:39 (3506 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

The Gloucester Citizen reported that George James Henry Beard was buried at Newland Church on Tuesday, February 5 1929.
There are several reports ref. his death and the intervention of the Coroner (the latter being as a result of the certifying Doctor mentioning the war wound of 1916 on the death certificate). A subsequent post mortem confirmed that death was due to natural causes.
Too much to transcribe.

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral)

by HarryBrook @, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 12:53 (3506 days ago) @ HarryBrook

There is a medal index card on Ancestry for a Capt. G. J. H. Beard, Monmouthshire Regt.

He was promoted Lieutenant on 18.7.1916
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29670/supplement/7083

Resigned his commission in 2nd Bn. Monmouthshire Regt. 24.2.1921, and retained the rank of Lieutenant. He would have been placed in the Reserve of Officers and liable to recall if required.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32237/supplement/1538

Promoted Captain, whilst in the Reserve of Officers, 17.6.1922
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32770/page/8301

He would have still been in the Reserve of Officers at the time of his death.

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral)

by admin ⌂, Forest of Dean, Wednesday, April 29, 2015, 12:47 (3506 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Two clippings have now been added to Newspaper Clippings. Both are from the Gloucester Citizen.
To view: click on Photo Gallery > Newspaper Clippings > Page 4

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